It's not that the Jets are losing, it's how they're losing

by JerseyJetsFan on Dec 15, 2010 4:40 PM EST

On the Jersey Jets Fan today, I wrote an article asking fans whether they felt Rex Ryan was on the Hot Seat. It seems like the positive feelings about this season are disappearing faster then anyone thought possible. Yet, it is almost comical when you look at the record because the Jets are still 9-4!

Something that has been bothering me (and I'm sure many of you fans as well) is not that the Jets have lost 4 ball games, its the way they have lost. We knew going into this season that we were ultimately going to lose a few games, but who would have thought our offense would look so inept in those games? We haven't scored a TD in each of the 4 loses! That is just absolutely unreal. Watching other football games when teams put up 4,5 even 6 TD's, and we can't even find the end-zone once is about as frustrating as it gets.

Perhaps if we lost 4 nailbiters or at least games where we showed encouraging signs, the loses wouldn't have felt so bad. But each loss is getting worse then the next. The Jets offense has shown absolutely zero fight in any of the loses and it's almost silly to think that Brian Shottenheimer deserves a job next year. Granted I'm one of the chief "Fire Shotty" supporters here at GGN, but to think of an offense with so many weapons that scores so few points is simply mind boggling.

Rant. Over.

-Rob

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Its not just that the offense has been inept, is that the team itself has looked ragged

and intimidated in most of those games, and also some of the miracle wins. Penalties (very inopportune ones that kill drives that have to score), dropped passes and even defense collapses seem to characterize Jets team play. The teams that we can be are those that beat themselves, in other words “bad” teams. Talent wise teams are not that different in the league. What REALLY separates teams is play under pressure and the elimination of mistakes. There have some very good pressure plays, but mistakes seem to be everywhere.

by ________key on Dec 15, 2010 4:46 PM EST reply actions

Good point. I couldn’t agree more. (Glad ur back btw). Its hard to say it isn’t the coaching. And as bad as I want to fire schotty, rex is quickly starting to lose his luster as well.

by Crackback on Dec 15, 2010 7:53 PM EST via mobile up reply actions

I losing faith fast

I wrote blogs defending Sanchez, LDT and who ever was a non-believer . Out of 13 games I seen maybe 21/2 good games out of this team. Its not just the offense, the defense has only seven interceptions all season. This team has to show me this week what they are made of. If they lose a tough game, but look good, then i’m still there, but if they look like they looked practically all season, then my faith is gone. I will still watch and support this team, but I will not have faith they can prolong this season.

by BIG OH!!!!! on Dec 15, 2010 4:56 PM EST reply actions

If the Jets turn it around and go far in the playoffs, maybe even the SB...

….you guys will change your tune about Schotty and I can guarantee you that he will have a job in the NFL somewhere in 2011 unless there is no season.

Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.

by YankeesJets on Dec 15, 2010 6:03 PM EST reply actions

No, I won't.

Schotty has proven what he is and if we make it to the SB it means someone else has forced him to change or that it took him all year to figure things out or we go all the way in spite of bad offensive schemes.

Schotty’s primary problem is that he tries to fit players to his scheme rather than building his schemes around what he has to work with and that, to me, is what separates the good ones from the mediocre ones. He also blows at making adjustments.

If we go far it’ll be in spite of him, not because of him just like we did last year. We didn’t beat the Chargers because we’d solved our slow start problem or because our offense crushed them or even did a whole lot (our last TD was what ground and pound is all about though, we finally wore them down). We won because our defense held the vaunted “high octane offense” to 14 points.

by cult hero on Dec 15, 2010 6:23 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs

The Jets beat the Chargers because Cromartie didn’t put a hit on Greene in the backfield when he had the chance.

by DesertJetFan on Dec 15, 2010 6:30 PM EST up reply actions

Which, presuming that were true, also only furthers my point.

by cult hero on Dec 16, 2010 4:08 AM EST up reply actions

preach it cult.

by Crackback on Dec 15, 2010 7:57 PM EST via mobile up reply actions

I agree

I think someone like Callahan would be able to fit a scheme around the players, unlike what Schotty has been doing.

by umohan21 on Dec 15, 2010 9:09 PM EST up reply actions

I thought you didn't want to hear about "what ifs?"

This Jets offense is regressing and at the worst possible time. The QB started off hot, but as defenses have adjusted to Schotty’s playcalling and Sanchez’s tendencies, neither the coach nor the player have shown the ability to readjust. Their redzone execution and production has got to be one of the worst in football. They have no recognizable identity on offense. Who do you think is to blame for that?

by DesertJetFan on Dec 15, 2010 6:46 PM EST up reply actions

Im not dealing in ifs, I am dealing in reality

When the Jets win out, you guys will be Schotty fans.

by YankeesJets on Dec 15, 2010 11:51 PM EST up reply actions

It all evens out....

On the flip side, in a few games, look how we won.

by oldskooljet on Dec 15, 2010 10:36 PM EST reply actions

2nd to Schotty, this face is what bothers me most about this offense

by GangGrizzle on Dec 15, 2010 10:47 PM EST reply actions

something goes wrong and instead of looking at a leader i see that^^

by GangGrizzle on Dec 15, 2010 10:48 PM EST up reply actions

Pressure.

I think Sanchez is simultaneously aware of his own limitations (which are frustrating him many times more than they’re frustrating us) and what the media and fans and everyone else expect. I figure the kid feels the weight of “we will win the Super Bowl” on his shoulders and I don’t think he believes he’s got the goods.

I wish he’d adopt the “fake it till you make it” mantra though. We’ll see.

by cult hero on Dec 16, 2010 4:12 AM EST up reply actions

If the Jets go 0-3...

down the stretch, I strongly think Rex is in the hot seat. Look at what happened to Mangini. Playoffs the first season, then nothing. And the year he got canned, he went through the beginning of the season strongly, then blew it. They went 9-7. Which will be what happens if they lose these next 3 games. Start the season strong, then tank it.

Plus, it seems that some of the players, Ellis at the least, aren’t too happy with Rex’s comments either. You lose the faith of the fans, and the players and the owner isn’t too far down the road.

Now after saying that, do I believe Rex should be in the hot seat? No. But it’s the NFL, and nobody is safe.

They need to go 3-0, beat two playoff caliber teams, beat a division rival at home, get the offense going and get rid of Schotty. That’ll get everyone back on board.

fingers crossed

by jestidff72 on Dec 16, 2010 2:21 PM EST reply actions

What troubles me the most is...

the coaching staff’s inability to adept and make changes on the fly mid game. New England especially capitolized on this and it was embarrassing. I think Rex is a great coach, but an offensive minded one he is not. We need change at O-coordinator during the off season, shotty’s PA to the left isn’t cutting it and not fooling anyone and his west coast gun slinger offense isn’t Jets football. If we had a Tom Brady or a Peyton Manning QB maybe this offense would work but we got a sophmore QB who makes some seriously questionable decisions sometimes. I like our offensive weapons but I would look for a bruiser RB in the off season and I would build up the lines other than that I would keep a similar roster. Hoping for the best

In Rex Ryan we trust.

by Russell B on Dec 16, 2010 4:51 PM EST reply actions

100%

the coaching staff’s inability to adept and make changes on the fly mid game.

But I’ll tell you, the defense isn’t always good at adjusting either. The problem is that the coaching staff “believes” in whatever scheme they decided on from film study during the week.

by ________key on Dec 16, 2010 4:58 PM EST up reply actions