Film Breakdown: What is Wrong with the Running Game?
by Ryan Alfieri on Dec 14, 2010 8:11 PM EST
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PrintIf you haven't already noticed, my "expertise", if you can call it that, lies on the defensive side of the ball. However, as us Jet fans know all too well, our problems lie on the offensive side. As a team that prides itself on being able to run the ball at will, it is concerning how ineffective it has been over the past few weeks.
Lets take a look at the 4th down play in the second quarter:
We start with Miami having 10 men in the box, it would have been 9 if Jericho Cotchery had not motioned behind Shonn Greene. I don't know what Shotty is trying to do here, but all he is doing is bringing more defensive players near the play.
Watch these two circled players, particularly OLB Cameron Wake. LT D'Brickashaw Ferguson is lined up in a TE spot, rather than his usual LT spot. Another tell the the play is not going left.
The ball is snapped, and Wake goes unblocked, as there is a "hat on a hat", and the defense simply outnumbers the offense. Ferguson should be blocking Wake, but due to the stacked box, he decides to block the saftey. Brick should have blocked wake, and RG (#65) Brandon Moore should have filled the "B" Gap, where the saftey would have penetrated.
As a result, Wake easily chases down Greene, and is stopped for no gain. Notice how far away from the play Brick still is.
Rex touched on this in his press conference, saying "I don't care if we had Jim Brown back there, there was nowhere to run." He's right. And for a team that makes a commitment on running the ball, this ineffectiveness is alarming.
In the past 46 games, the Steelers have allowed ONE 100 yard rusher. This is not going to be easy. We have the personnel to do it, it is simply a matter of better execution.
Also, if there is a particular play or something you want "broken down", let me know, i'll see what I can do.
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People are complaining about LDT slowing down
I’m telling you this O-line sucks when its come to run blocking, when there is a hole, its only big enough to get 5-7 yards at best. And T-Rich is done, it was a mistake bringing him back as a player. He should had been kept as a coach. He’s been getting blown up all season.
5-7 yards every run play, I'll take that every play!
But, look at the analysis, it’s Brad Smith making the wrong read. (explanation below!)
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Here is my analysis of the play!!
I am confused. You say that DBrickashaw should have blocked Wake..
but in football, if it’s “hat on hat” you take the guy with the biggest threat, he took the right man…
He is supposed to take the safety, he’s lined up in the box, and inside… wake should not have been a threat..
Problem looks like Brad Smith should have held onto it.
Looks like this play was to read Wake, and we made the wrong read!!
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by Max Strauss on Dec 14, 2010 8:32 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
This play is just fundamentally flawed, and was a terrible call against the defense on the field.
More reasons Shotty should probably go.
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by Ryan Alfieri on Dec 14, 2010 8:34 PM EST up reply actions
Not at all!!
If BRAD SMITH made the right read…on Wake!!
DBrickashaw sealed his man (clemons) inside. Wake bought in the inside too!
Brad Smith or JCO could have taken that around the outside, even a pitch to JCo after…would have worked.
3-5 yards, and JCo could have taken to the house.
DBrick was clearly ready to be a “Hog in space” ready to block for JCo…
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They should have called a play action. screen, pass, just about anything than what they did had a better chance. I’m not sure why you won’t blame shotty for anything.
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by Ryan Alfieri on Dec 14, 2010 8:39 PM EST up reply actions
I don't have to blame Schotty in this situation for anything.
This is a very poor read by an ex-QB and something that should have ended better.
Execution is poor… by Smith, that’s only problem with the play, Brad made the wrong read. Look no one is on the left side…after the handoff.
The “Tigercat” works on reads..and zones…. the play could have gone to the house…
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AHH! I said left side, I meant right..the whole right side is sealed.
After Brad’s pitch back to JCO, it’s a first.
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Well, of course no one is there AFTER the handoff. But should he have given it to Jco or kept it, the defense would have reacted accordingly. I think this was a handoff to Greene all the way though, it didn’t look like It was a read option play.
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by Ryan Alfieri on Dec 14, 2010 8:44 PM EST up reply actions
no..he's about to hand it off, and you see Wake has already bought inside...
It’s a read option play… that’s what the TigerCat does… / WildCat does… misdirection….
If Brad pulled the handoff back, he might get hit by Wake, but he could pitch it to JCO, no one else is there on the right side to get JCO it seems…clearly out manned… poor read…not a bad play call.
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Even if it was a read-option, i doubt either Jco or BSmith would have made it all the way past the marker.
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by Ryan Alfieri on Dec 14, 2010 8:55 PM EST up reply actions
Clearly would have..you mention Schotty bringing more defensive players in box..
What he does is actually kind of brilliant, he sucks Sean Smith to the left side, where the fake should have gone, and the man covering J-Co actually took himself out of the play… and
sure, why not get past marker.. you have DBrick who would have been downfield. JCo running off pitch, since Wake takes himself trying to tackle Brad…but if Wake tries to contain JCO, then Brad smith takes it up field, and DBrick clearly beat his man on the right side by moving him inside.
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A slant, a play action would a worked. 10 GUYS in the box, and you run it up the gut, and you dont block their best defensive player. This is an awful call.
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by Ryan Alfieri on Dec 14, 2010 8:59 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
You have ten guys in box...because they saw the personnel in the game...
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Yeah, and you probably have a 1 on 1 on the outside with Holmes/Edwards/Cotchery, all capable of cathing a 2 yard hitch route.
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by Ryan Alfieri on Dec 14, 2010 9:01 PM EST up reply actions
Yes...but this play could have gone to the house.
Wrong read…this is play that was called. It’s not a bad call, there is a better call, but, if this is a run team, then you run the ball. and don’t risk the incomplete… all you have to do make the right read on the defensive end…wake…and that’s why he’s left unblocked, the read is on him… back to like gun zone plays in HS , you leave the DE free and read him…brad smith made the wrong read… if it’s two yards…clearly gotten . WAKE could not have been right on the play, that’s the point of read option plays….but… he was right…because brad smith was wrong in handing ball off in the middle…
Anyways… This is frustrating for me, bet it is for you too!!
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Great analysis.
And Ryan,
Why are you advocating that the Jets should have called a passing play? 17/44 doesn’t inspire confidence in the passing game.
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by Max Strauss on Dec 14, 2010 10:21 PM EST up reply actions
17/44 Is a result of a piss poor running game. Like 10 reciever drops doesnt help.
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by Ryan Alfieri on Dec 14, 2010 10:35 PM EST up reply actions
Oh has the running game been poor all season?
That must explain the bad passing all season. A poor running game…
Yes that’s it
LOL!
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by Max Strauss on Dec 14, 2010 10:43 PM EST up reply actions
I agree. I’m pretty sure it wasn’t a read option either.
by Crackback on Dec 14, 2010 9:00 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
what Wildcat/Tigercat play is not a read -option play?
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in Wildcat / Tigercat, you don't call "dive"..."run outside".."hand it off this time.."
you give what defense takes, and that’s why it’s successful.
If executed and read correctly. this is an example of how it’s not read correctly!
Who could have made the tackle if it was a pitch back to JCo on the right side..looks like no one is there…
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First of all, when have u ever seen smith hand it off before that play? Second, how often do u see him fake a hand off? Third, nobody is there to stop jco (10+ yards deep btw) bc… THEY’RE ALL TACKLING GREENE.
by Crackback on Dec 14, 2010 9:26 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
AHH! I said left side above, replace that.. I meant right side..sorry.
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didn't actually watch most of the game...
I only got to see the 4th quarter.
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by Max Strauss on Dec 14, 2010 10:19 PM EST up reply actions
haha, OH!!!
haha, alright. I didn’t know you said that, thought you meant coaches…haha.
I have too much rewind and analysis going on …so this would kill me knowing plays later…
DVR = win.
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by Max Strauss on Dec 14, 2010 10:28 PM EST up reply actions
this is one of the worst calls ive ever seen.
Nothing about this play makes sense.
by Crackback on Dec 14, 2010 8:56 PM EST via mobile reply actions
You would think the only thing it does is create a LITTLE confusion with B. Smith in there, but all it does is confuse the Jets.
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by Ryan Alfieri on Dec 14, 2010 8:58 PM EST up reply actions
that is true...Brad Smith makes the wrong read...
It’s a great playcall….confusion, misdirection, taking a player out of the play.
However, the wrong read was made…
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Nope, just a disasterous design fail. He decided to go shot-gun, with a back lined up 3 yards BEHIND the qb, motioned a slow wr into the set 3 yrds BEHIND the back, left the DE clean BY DESIGN, and ran a freakin DIVE of all things, hoping that the DE would hesitate due to the threat of b. Smith.
Even if it was a read option, which it wasn’t, why the hell would you go shotgun and motion ur slowest wr into the tailback position??? Going shotgun only puts u farther away from scrimmage. Its freakin retarded!!!
by Crackback on Dec 14, 2010 9:09 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
No it's not at all.
This was a great call.
Let’s clarify things… when it’s read option..you don’t call dive or pitch… so Schotty didn’t do that.
This play was built to get some short yards when ended on the outside end…and it’s clearly open!
They motion JCo, not because he’s the slowest, but because you don’t think he’s going to run, so Sean Smith shifts to the left which would have taken him out of the play..if the read… option was performed correctly!
And the DE is supposed to respect Brad Smith, that’s the point, if he does, it’s a first….
You want the DE to make a choice, but unfortunately…Smith hands it off… making wrong read.
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No offense Max, but how can it be a great call if they didnt even gain a yard?
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by Ryan Alfieri on Dec 14, 2010 9:14 PM EST up reply actions
Okay..it could have been a great call.
But Brad Smith made the wrong read…on the defensive end…resulting in the potentially great call to be bad.
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The still photos are misleading. If you watch it in motion, the defense is reacting to the ball. Had Jco gotten it, the defense would ahve shifted accordingly.
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by Ryan Alfieri on Dec 14, 2010 9:17 PM EST up reply actions
Well...all I see is the photos...
but that’s why you fake the handoff, so defense has to respect that…then go after what happens.
Easily gain two yards on outside…
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Max, even if it is a read, the guy you read is the end. That’s Wake, and he had contain. The right read is to hand it up the gut.
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If he has contain QB who contains Cotchery?
Pitch back to JCO
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by Max Strauss on Dec 14, 2010 10:23 PM EST up reply actions
Assuming Wake hasn’t blown Smith up or force an inaccurate pitch, Cotchery has to run over 10 yards, which is a heck of a long time to ask your blocking to hold, even assuming everybody gets blocked in that situation.
That’s not a better bet than the alternatives.
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I understand.
The option play is To read play. not redirect defense. (redirect = reverse)
And, he runs, it’s more like an eight yard run, but you have 1 on 1 with WR who is on left side! No one is there to contain. the right side is open, for a TD run. and you have DBrick going off and releasing another blocker downfield…he put his guy inside already.
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by Max Strauss on Dec 14, 2010 10:30 PM EST up reply actions
This makes too many assumptions. You’re assuming the Dolphins sell out on the fake. You’re assuming nobody blows an assignment on a very long developing play. You’re assuming Smith makes the right read on a triple option, which given the circumstances, is clearly no guarantee. You’re assuming Wake doesn’t play it right.
This was not a good play call for the situation. Yes, if everything goes right, it could score a touchdown. It wasn’t even close to being the highest percentage call for that situation.
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The pictures are deceiving. All of the Miami defenders are sucked in because the ball has already been handed off.
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Okay, well from what I see here,
I don’t have the film in front of me, however… a fake handoff draws defenders in also
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by Max Strauss on Dec 14, 2010 10:37 PM EST up reply actions
I know,
but at this point its one step difference at the most and it 2 on 1 with smith and and cotchery vs wake. If I’m not mistaken this is the type of play, triple option, that has made Oregon so successful on offense.
Yes. and why not run it when we need two yards?
It’s a great call, poor read killed it though. :-/
Brad Smith loses some brownie points!
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by Max Strauss on Dec 14, 2010 10:40 PM EST up reply actions
It’s a play that looks great on the chalkboard but needs like ten things to go right for it to work well.
It’s vintage Schotty overthinking things.
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It’s vintage Schotty overthinking things
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Overthinking.
It’s just read the DE.
then three options. handoff, run, pitch.
Brad Smith is looking right at him during the handoff.
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by Max Strauss on Dec 14, 2010 10:47 PM EST up reply actions
Again, Smith made the read based on the fact Wake didn’t initially overpursue (if it is a read). The guys who were chasing after Greene once he got the ball wouldn’t be in the same spot had Smith not given it to him. Not only that, but Wake would have pushed them back and forced Cotchery to go 15 yards from the marker instead of 10 once he had the pitch.
Unless Chris Clemons bites on a fake, he’s in strong position to get around Brick and take Cotchery. So you’re depending on him to overpursue. And that’s just one guy.
And long developing shotgun triple option on fourth and short is definitely overthinking it IMO.
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I don't think so at all.
It’s a great call, poorly read.
And, Wake did overpursue, he’s almost inside the tackle…dbrick lined up as a TE on the play…so he’s inside..completely..thats why Smith would take it outside.
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by Max Strauss on Dec 14, 2010 10:59 PM EST up reply actions
Yet you guys are calling for a fourth and short pass
from a QB with a low success rate, even/especially on the shortest passes
:) Thanks NJNets29
Plus you got a DBRICK in space, ready to continue blocking.
Sean Smith could not have been right with the motion. unless he lined up and played middle linebacker and did reading, but if he was on left, play should be right.
if Sean Smith was on left, then it’s going up the gut
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by Max Strauss on Dec 14, 2010 10:36 PM EST up reply actions
I think Schotty runs too sophisticated an offense for these guys to run
Not saying Im a Schotty fan, just saying he isnt as awful as made out to be. If he simplifys the offense, I believe we can get back on the road to success.
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by YankeesJets on Dec 14, 2010 10:28 PM EST up reply actions
that would help!!
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by Max Strauss on Dec 14, 2010 10:29 PM EST up reply actions
I say POTENTIALLY GREAT
because who was there to tackle JCO or Brad Smith before the first…
Wake, and then he couldn’t of been right, if Brad kept it or pitch depending on what he did.
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Wow
That’s one hell of a hindsight bias. The play can be a great call even if the players don’t execute it correctly
So you are saying if the players dont execute a play correctly its not a great call?
Okay the play to Holmes in the endzone was a bad playcall because he didn’t execute the play right(which was to catch the ball), but I guess his drop was another thing caused by Schotty. If McDaniels was here, he catches that ball and we win!!
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by YankeesJets on Dec 14, 2010 10:19 PM EST up reply actions
True that. LOL!
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by Max Strauss on Dec 14, 2010 10:22 PM EST up reply actions
Perhaps I read your take wrong, it seemed sarcastic
If it wasnt, sorry,lol
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by YankeesJets on Dec 14, 2010 10:23 PM EST up reply actions
LOL! Nice YankeesJets and Dar9898 :)
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by Max Strauss on Dec 14, 2010 10:24 PM EST up reply actions
I like to think I have a degree in sarcasm 101
Sometimes my sarcasm meter is off though.
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by YankeesJets on Dec 14, 2010 10:26 PM EST up reply actions
LOL! You two are funny.
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by Max Strauss on Dec 14, 2010 10:31 PM EST up reply actions
thanks!
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by Max Strauss on Dec 14, 2010 10:19 PM EST up reply actions
completely does, read above! haha ;)
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What happened to O line?
Yes, Shotty sucks. Yes, Mark is in a slump. Yes, the RBs aren’t knocking down walls. But what happened to the O-line? Where is our attitude from last year? The best O-line in FB—not anymore. Every team in the league gets stuffed on the run—but they manage to balance it out with big gainers on wide open holes. Look at what the Giants are doing! But we can’t do that. Why? What happened? The game against Pitt is an attitude game. They’re similar to Miami—so it will be close … unless we tank it again. Miami claims they beat us up. That should never happen and never at home. Make some damn clutch plays in all three phases—and we win! Go Jets!
Again, I think this is an issue with the system. I believe that this Jets team is far too talented to be this ineffective on the O-line. Even without Faneca and Woody hurt. There are plenty of teams with lesser offensive lines who manage to run the ball effectively. The Jets lack of production comes down to one thing…COACHING.
by struckanerve9 on Dec 15, 2010 10:50 AM EST up reply actions
I dont think this play indicates the problem with the runnung game..
The most informative stat I’ve seen, was that the Jets lead the league in running on first down, a whopping 65% ! Hard to run against a defense that knows whats coming. It’s way too predictable, 1st down, run 3yds, 2nd down incomplete out pattern, 3rd down dumpoff 4yds and a punt, wash, rinse repeat! Against the Steelers, we need to throw on first down the entire game!
We do not have a strong enough QB to throw that frequently
Sanchez completes less than 55% of his passes. Throwing more would give away downs and potentially the ball
Throwing against a run defense
Increases the chance for success, repeated throws on first down will allow the running game to get going.
Oh
It didn’t seem like teams loading the box with run defenses all season had made our passing game any more successful. But maybe that will even out over the last 3 games
And the Jets pass more than half of the league on first down
They are right at average or slightly above it for passing on first down. If anything, since they have a very much below average quarterback, they might be passing too much on first down (and all downs)
Great work, Ryan. Rec'd
Holy shit this is a great post, we need more film breakdown.
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See the debate we had? (ABOVE)
It’s possible someone else should do the analysis…
No offense to Ryan at all…. but I feel he interpreted the play completely wrong.
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by Max Strauss on Dec 14, 2010 10:01 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Well done
HS student. It seems the Jets have two QBs who can’t read defenses properly, a starting one and a wildcat one
Thanks.
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by Max Strauss on Dec 14, 2010 10:20 PM EST up reply actions
I think both of you guys did a nice job
Perhaps you guys should do a point/counterpoint post every week. I like that you guys both had different takes but were respectful of each other. Great stuff.
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by YankeesJets on Dec 14, 2010 10:21 PM EST up reply actions
:D Thanks YankeesJets
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by Max Strauss on Dec 14, 2010 10:24 PM EST up reply actions
Thank you NJNets29 :)
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by Max Strauss on Dec 14, 2010 10:24 PM EST up reply actions
Sure, Max. I'll make sure to tell Rex you can break down film better than him.
In your dream world, at least.
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LOL!
I’m confused.. I don’t want to attack anyone…
I just spend a lot of time analyzing film…
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by Max Strauss on Dec 14, 2010 10:39 PM EST up reply actions
I'm confused...
I never said I can break film down better than anyone….
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by Max Strauss on Dec 14, 2010 10:38 PM EST up reply actions
Thanks Matt. If anyone wants something specifically broken down, lemme know.
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by Ryan Alfieri on Dec 14, 2010 10:37 PM EST up reply actions
:) Keep up the great work. Seriously
It’s fun to debate when one is not personally attacked, lol.
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by Max Strauss on Dec 14, 2010 10:39 PM EST up reply actions
excellent debate on previous posts
enjoyed the above debate . i give victory to max as he explains his points great . looking at the photos max also calls it right . maybe on film it looks different but hats off max .
wonder can max break down the sol tripping play lol?
would it have been better for the culprit to be bs seen as so many people on here want him fired . not that they need another excuse lol .
wonder how long b4 people might realise its as much bad execution on the qb , o~ line as it is bad play calling .
was bs not calling the plays when we got those 9 wins . looks like the pressure is getting to the players whenever we play teams with winning records or great defences
how you can credit Shotty for those 9 wins are amazing
If anything, things were repeatedly stagnant until Sanchez took the offense on his shoulders with the 2 minute drill.
And if you guys have a problem with the execution…well guess what…that falls under the responsibility of the OC also. ESPECIALLY WHEN THE ENTIRE TEAM ISN"T EXECUTING.
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appreciate your support.
It was a fun debate…stressed, but tired staying calm/respectful.
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Looking at the pictures is deceiving. It makes you think everyone will do exactly the same thing they would do even if brad smith faked the hand off.
I think you guys are asking too much of that play, too much of Brad smith, and too little of a Miami defense who knows a ‘tiny’ bit about the Wildcat.
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Judging the picture it looks like if Smith flips to Cotchery then he is gone and the arguement is the defense would have reacted and stopped him but I remember when this happened and thought that Cotchery was gone if Smith made the flip to him. He is an x-QB he can fake the hand off to Green take one step to hold Wake and flip it to Cotchery.
That should have been the read and play. The Ticat formation should be more successful but there needs to be more creativity out of the formation. I don’t see the point of taking Sanchez off the field for a three yard gain every time. I say take a shot and pass out of it or run a reverse out of it or flip it to Tone or Cotchery but this simeple hike take a one step read and run off tackle all the time is a continued waste of explosive talent.
Why do you call a tigercat play AT ALL!!!
The reason this is Schotty’s fault is that he chose to put Smith (who then bungled the read) in AT ALL on a huge 4th and 1. Had the tigercat been working all that well to that point? Um…no. He could’ve chosen ANYTHING else and it would’ve probably had a better chance of working.
Secondly, have the Jets EVER run a tigercat play on 4th and 1? Not that I can recall…and there have been plenty of 4th down conversions this year.
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