Is the New England Patriots Defense Really That Bad?
The New England Patriots have the 31st ranked defense in the NFL, allowing 399.1 yards per game. The Redskins have the only defense rated lower, and it is by under 2 yards per game. By contrast, the Jets defense, perceived to be underachieving by many, allows over 100 yards less per game. Do these numbers tell the whole story? I don't, but I also don't think this is a particularly good defense either.
The Pats are in the middle of the pack against the run. They give up 4.2 per carry and 110.6 per game on the ground. Even though New England lacks a vintage version front seven, the respective presences of Vince Wilfork on the nose and the NFL's leading tackler, Jerrod Mayo, keep them from getting gashed too badly against the run.
New England does give up more yards per game than any team in the league at 288.5 yards per game. The 7.5 yards per attempt they allow rank among the ten worst in football so it is not simply a case of numbers being skewed teams throwing, throwing, and throwing some more. They do have a rookie corner, Devin McCourty who is playing strong football. He had a pair of interceptions on Thanksgiving against the Lions and is making those of us who found New England taking him over Kyle Wilson to look somewhat silly. The numbers don't look pretty, though.
While things don't look great, I still have trouble saying Washington is the only defense in the league that is worse. I think the numbers are somewhat deceiving. There have been a few games where New England had games in hand, and their opponents put up deceiving numbers in the second half. Week 1 against the Bengals comes to mind. The Pats held a 24-3 halftime lead. Then Carson Palmer started doing damage in the second half. He finished with 345 yards, but the game was never in doubt. When the Patriots played the Steelers, the same thing happened. A lot of Ben Roethlisberger's 387 yards and all 3 of his touchdowns were in garbage time. Shaun Hill went for 285 yards for the Lions, but New England's defense got stiff in the second half, allowing 7 points to turn a close game into a rout.
The Pats are also an opportunistic defense relative to the yardage they allow at least. They give up a lot of yardage, but they also rank in the middle of the pack with 20 turnovers. They rank 11th 22nd in points allowed, a tad better than the overall stats would suggest.
The group also tends to get key stops. Some people may scoff at the notion, but I do believe there is such a thing as pitching to the scoreboard. Just like quarterbacks are judged by their work in key spots, the Pats have delivered some huge stops in games against the Ravens, Colts, and Chargers.
Don't get me wrong. This is far from an elite defense. It's frankly a below average unit that doesn't allow its offense enough opportunities. I also think the Jets present them with some matchup problems we will discuss further in the next few days. My point is simply that this is not a totally inept unit incapable of doing anything right like say Houston's defense a few weeks back.
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Patriots are actually 22nd in points/game on defense...
…they give up the 11th MOST.
If I had to rank this defense on a scale of 1-10, 10 being the best, I’d give it a 4. They get the job done early on and they get the job done in the final seconds. It’s the mid-late point where they give everyone heart attacks. They’re not awful- just slightly below average.
they are a young improving defense capable of shutting teams down for brief spurts, they’ve yet to put it together for 60 minutes but they are getting better each week. so far it’s been just enough to get the job done.
Why do we have to acknowledge that if they’re not playing on Monday?
Do you guys have to acknowledge how much better our D would be if we had a healthy Jenkins? Heck, why not throw in LT and Bruce Smith and Reggie White in their primes. No, you wouldn’t bc its completely irrelevant.
by Crackback on Dec 2, 2010 12:04 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Woops. That was in reply to the comment below.
by Crackback on Dec 2, 2010 12:06 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
esp w. Bodden...
The other Warren has done a good job replacing the org. Warren.
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Bodden and McCourty might well have pushed Revis and Cromartie as the best CB pairing in the AFC East
They’re not the ball-hawks Revis and (especially) Cromartie is, but they’re both very solid, enthusiastic tacklers who don’t allow YAC and will willingly set the edge on runs or swing-passes to the outside. In other words – they’re not Cromartie, but more along the lines of ex-Pat/ex-Jet Ty Law.
Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.
by Comedic.Sans on Dec 1, 2010 10:39 PM EST up reply actions
Now now. Let’s not start talkin crazy.
by Crackback on Dec 2, 2010 12:07 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Are there breakdowns anywhere by half or score?
As you alluded to, a lot of these yards may be because they’ve had so many games well in hand.
But, their opponents have run the 5th most plays and they allow the 5th worst yards per play. AAAAND, one more thing that will help the Jets, give up the most 1st downs per game (Jets are tied for 15th in this category on offense).
One key, perhaps THE key, is keeping that marginal NE defense on the field. Jets are 4th in Time of Possession, Pats, 28th. If the Pats can be where they’re at offensively having their offense on the field that little, the Jets probably have to have a good 34-35 minute TOP to win.
Go Devils
Go Jets
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Here are some facts:
Brady has only thrown picks in the 2nd half.
The Passing game is at its best in the 2nd and 3rd quarters.
They have run the ball nearly 40 more times in the 4th quarter than in any other quarter- the offense clearly shifts focus in the 4th.
Here’s the offensive touchdown total, rushing:passing scores
1 – 5; 6 touchdowns
4 – 5; 9 touchdowns
5 – 7; 12 touchdowns
3 – 6; 9 touchdowns
This offense takes a while to get into a rhythm. They peak in the 3rd and then they slow down in the 4th.
by Richard Hill on Dec 2, 2010 12:09 AM EST up reply actions
I've seen some Pats fans boast....
(on the other board), that based on certain special statistics, the Pats D is not the 31st ranked D, they’re 26th. And he was being serious.
Yes, they are that bad.
Well then go over there, and debate about it if you think they are "that bad."
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by patriotguy2 on Dec 2, 2010 10:49 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
They're 9-wins bad.
Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.

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