Sheer Luck
by John B on Nov 7, 2010 4:32 PM EST
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PrintI can't think of any other way to describe that win. The Jets played a terrible football game. They made boneheaded play after boneheaded play. This team had very little business beating the Detroit Lions today.
Sometimes having a special season requires finding a way to come through even when playing lousy ball so there's that, but this team has an awful lot of work to do.
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WTF this is a super bowl favorite
Too undisciplined to be considered a great team
We seriously look like the Ravens last year
Probably the best team in football, but couldn’t find enough ways to hand games away.
Call it what you will
I call it a win.
I’m sweaty, on edge, too distracted to drink. This is what football is for. When your team pulls off a miracle on the road in OT in the face of defeat.
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Um, where did I say that
you wanna muck in defeat on a winning day, be my guest.
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You can't but thats what makes it fun...
and on the other hand I don’t think any team in the NFL feels confident when they play us.
At least they won’t be overconfident against the Browns after what they did to NE today.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees.
by rxmeister on Nov 7, 2010 4:48 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
No shit man where did THAT come from? Maybe Belichick leaves the videotapes home when he’s up against the whistleblower…
I don’t care why but that beatdown at New England’s expense put us back into first.
by nationalist88 on Nov 7, 2010 5:13 PM EST up reply actions
Cleveland
Won big against the Saints during Rex Ryan’s bye week. Now they win big against Rex Ryan’s rival. Their defensive coordinator is Rex Ryan’s brother. Just saying.
and the home of the... JETS!!!
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"You're as young as you feel." -Methuselah, the day before he died.
Good game guys.
It was exciting til the end. The refs jobbed both teams, but you guys came out with the hard fought last quarter.
I will say this though, fuck Trevor Pryce. “Roughing the Kicker” is not near enough punishment.
to be fair those 3 points
turned into 6…
"Pass me the damn ball, I don't need a pick at all, And don't worry about my shot Cause I'm a get that off..Yea, I drops 40 on your double team...Then I drop 81 on another team."
We had to throw it.
It was the Jets who made it seem bad by running the clock down themselves, no one could know they would do that. They had plenty of time to get down the field if they actually stopped the clock instead of checked down in the middle all day.
I don’t think you had to throw it. It was unlikely to get a first down, and with how horrible our offense was playing all day, it would have made most sense to run as much time as possible.
Truly.
it would have made more sense to take the sack, honestly.
Which is what Schwartz basically told Stanton. Unless there’s a touchdown opportunity wide open, don’t throw the ball. Stanton threw it to the backfield. He gets the blame, not the coach. That’s all I’m saying.
The 3rd string QB had to throw it? I dont know about that. But it was a weird game with the refs making bad calls against both sides and something I don’t want to be subjected to again this year.
I get that.
But saying it was a dumb ass play might be calling it a little bigger than it really was. Stanton messed up the play, not the Coach. But Schwartz stepped up and took the blame in the interview, so I respect that.
I still think schotty should be fired
but you guys need to be reminded that we’re 6-2 and leading the AFC East.
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by Bro Namath on Nov 7, 2010 4:36 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
everything you said +1
"Pass me the damn ball, I don't need a pick at all, And don't worry about my shot Cause I'm a get that off..Yea, I drops 40 on your double team...Then I drop 81 on another team."
That should read backwards
We’re 6-2 and in first place, but we should still fire Schotty. :P
Not really sure how you figure that
being that it’s a negative thread filled with negative comments. Open with a partial agreement, then point out that things are much better than people are acting.
The Jets being 6-2 isn’t the subject. It’s an aside.
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But it's NOT the Same Old Jets
The Same Old Jets would surely have lost that game.
And certainly, Sanchez came up big in the last 5 minutes plus OT.
...and the home of the... JETS!!!
and the home of the... JETS!!!
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"You're as young as you feel." -Methuselah, the day before he died.
Congrats to Sanchez
On his first 300-yard passing game and leading the Jets to victory. I’ll take the win, but wow was that ugly.
Because half the yards came on two big plays.
But the deep ball to Bray was one of the best bombs I’ve ever seen him throw. Not saying I’m a believer yet, just giving the guy his due…
by nationalist88 on Nov 7, 2010 5:17 PM EST up reply actions
The Holmes throw was a great pass too
its amazing as much as people complain about his arm strength I think Sanchez has been at his best throwing medium and long this year, and at his worst on those short dumps he misses horribly on.
That’s true, it’s weird how he seems to have no accuracy or touch whatsoever on short throws..
by nationalist88 on Nov 8, 2010 12:13 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, everyone says that after they beat us;Giants, Packers, and now you.
Do you think the Lions deserve a little credit for that?
Be fair John...
I agree to some extent, but credit has to be given to Sanchez, as awful as he’s played at times this year and particularly most of this game, he put the team on his shoulders when he had to and led us back to the win, he is something special. Also Folk is clutch.
But. But. But.
Yes, we played horrifically, we should have lost.
However, NE played even worse, lost to the Browns, and we’re back in first place.
Of course, now we need to not do what they did next week…
David Eckstein: so gritty they would eat him in the south for breakfast with some butter and sprinkle cheese.
Because we used to be that Lions team that didn’t know how to win and close out games.
by nationalist88 on Nov 7, 2010 5:18 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t want to hear Rex and the Jets mention the words “Super Bowl.”. The last two wins were literally stolen against non playoff teams. They need to play better, and stop thinking they can just win games because they’re so talented.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees.
by rxmeister on Nov 7, 2010 4:41 PM EST via mobile reply actions
+1
"we believe in comebacks"
"Play like a Jet"
by Jadden Hopkins on Nov 7, 2010 4:45 PM EST up reply actions
Teams with elite defenses win games like this
If the defense is clicking, there really isn’t a game that the Jets shouldn’t have a legitimate chance to win regardless of how awful the offense is.
only watched the last two min + regulation
so i missed all the “ugly” stuff. guess i was lucky eh?
i expected the lions to play a close game…they’ve been playing good opponents close the wholeeee season
pretty funny
I couldn’t watch the last 2 minutes and OT. Thanks CBS.
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It's like my SF Giants
they played absolute ugly gut wrenching games that they won
Jets can be the cherry on top of my sports season this year I am hoping to be storing a JETS NFL CHAMPS shirt in my wardrobe.
Revis locked down Johnson today, whoever the hell was on Burleson needs to pick it up
either way
.and the home of the JETS!
(315) SF Giants and NY Jets
Giants baseball: TORTURE
...and the home of the... JETS!
Coleman, ugh experiment over please release him ASAP
Wilson never played this bad, and was actually learning.
Actually they’re MY SF Giants, and the word you’re looking for is torture!
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees.
by rxmeister on Nov 7, 2010 4:46 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Weird
I never saw a SF Giants fan before last week, now they’re everywhere.
by EVT on Nov 7, 2010 5:00 PM EST up reply actions
nah he is the real deal
In an Ideal world I would have all ten fingers on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching./ Free Free
Nah Rxmeister has been with MCC the whole season
(315) SF Giants and NY Jets
Giants baseball: TORTURE
...and the home of the... JETS!
by GiantsfaninNY55 on Nov 7, 2010 5:12 PM EST up reply actions
We can share them right?
(315) SF Giants and NY Jets
Giants baseball: TORTURE
...and the home of the... JETS!
by GiantsfaninNY55 on Nov 7, 2010 5:12 PM EST up reply actions
Definitely
Been a Giants fan since 1962, and I’ve finally seen them win the World Championship. I thought after that I wouldn’t be upset if the Jets lost, but I was wrong! I was as angry as ever, and elated that the Jets rallied and pulled this game out. What’s wrong with a Series and Super Bowl in the same year?
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees.
by rxmeister on Nov 7, 2010 5:41 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Buster Posey
Awesome tagline…he will be a Yankee someday ; )
by Down Since '86 on Nov 7, 2010 7:18 PM EST up reply actions
Oh THAT Sanyoni
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees.
by rxmeister on Nov 7, 2010 4:43 PM EST via mobile reply actions
And Bart Scott
had a fantastic game
(315) SF Giants and NY Jets
Giants baseball: TORTURE
...and the home of the... JETS!
his calling the coin toss could have been the most clutch play of the game
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Nah, Detroit was done on offense after Stafford wen't down...
the toss didn’t matter, Detroit could not move the ball after that.
Diesel’s right; the playcalling was obvious because they were killing the clock.
by nationalist88 on Nov 7, 2010 5:27 PM EST up reply actions
but it was very poorly executed, all they needed was a first down in any of those series and you would have had a different game.
I’m sorry there was like 8 minutes left when he came in not 4.
Hell I guess they were giving up then...
because that was one of the worst rushing performance by a team I have ever seen, to try to give it to them to run out the clock is suicide.
No but certainly completing one 81 yarder on the Giants proves nothing
Stafford was making tremendous throws against us, and that was the only place the Lions were having success, Stanton is a journeyman third stringer, his chances of having the same success is very unlikely, and looked awful during his time in there.
Stanton threw a 12 yarder that turned into an 81 yarder when the defender tried going for the pick. Don’t get hyped over that.
by SioneBAAOOOHA on Nov 7, 2010 8:49 PM EST up reply actions
Except his STUPID personal foul on the opening drive…
by Down Since '86 on Nov 7, 2010 7:19 PM EST up reply actions
Last 3 wins have been coin flip victories, just hope this game has the effect needed to correct the sloppiness.
In an Ideal world I would have all ten fingers on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching./ Free Free
Wins a win!
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r5evis best game since baltimore
In an Ideal world I would have all ten fingers on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching./ Free Free
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We lose this game last year, of that I have little doubt.
Wasn’t pretty, wasn’t polished, wasn’t disciplined, but I’m really not bothered. It’s a W and that’s all that matters. I love that we win this game, it showed a hell of a lot of backbone, and at 6-2…..all is right with the world.
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same can be said for last 3 wins in a way I just hope they don’t take this for granted. I thought the 2 wins before this were character building games. Something about this game don’t sit right with me. but they won and MArk was cool in the 4th
In an Ideal world I would have all ten fingers on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching./ Free Free
Well said Mr. Wyatt.
We TOOK that game fair and square.
It’s not really that simple. They’re not beating elite teams playing like this. They need to fix several things. The running game is not getting it done,the play calling is ridiculously predictable, the penalties are stupid, and although the defense is playing well, they need to be told it’s legal to get a turnover once in awhile.
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by rxmeister on Nov 7, 2010 4:59 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
The penalties are the #1 problem...
it killing us every time we get into a little rhythm, and is whats upsetting the running game.
Agree with a lot of what you said.
The win is awesome, but carrying our inadequacies from game to game is what I’m bothered by.
by random122 on Nov 7, 2010 5:03 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
That really is unfair.
That was the shoulder he separated against the Bears in Week 1 and this was his second game back and he landed flat on that same shoulder, his throwing shoulder. Be glad your guy has the offensive line he has or it’d be some other jerk saying this about Sanchez.
Good luck the rest of the way, but you guys are really going to have to improve if you want to talk about the Super Bowl…
by Jamesir Bensonmum on Nov 7, 2010 5:14 PM EST up reply actions
well, i think he's had 2 surgeries on that shoulder...
i may be wrong…
"Pass me the damn ball, I don't need a pick at all, And don't worry about my shot Cause I'm a get that off..Yea, I drops 40 on your double team...Then I drop 81 on another team."
Remember what its about guys
Its about leading the league in fucking wins.
Right now, Jets are tied for the lead in wins.
Hey!
Who started letting Lions fans write headlines for our page?? This is an outrage. Somebody get JB on the phone!
Mangini at least offers his hand. A lot of the Patriots staff and players are very poor sports/unprofessional.
If you ever played a team in little league or pop warner that always dominated everyone else and saw or were the object of their reaction when they lost, you know that type perfectly. The Patriots are that team of spoiled little league brats when things don’t go their way.
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anyone hearing bart scott’s post game interview?
In an Ideal world I would have all ten fingers on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching./ Free Free
he is talking a l,ot of stuff about how dirty the lions played.
In an Ideal world I would have all ten fingers on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching./ Free Free
They were very chippy in the first half
A couple of the hits on Cotch should draw fines.
by EVT on Nov 7, 2010 5:12 PM EST up reply actions
A Win is a Win is a WIN.
We won because we’re better. It was only a game because we gave them 11 points (an extra 4 because of dumb penalty on a FG, and a phantom PI on E. Smith.
If Schotty would realize that Shonn Greene was a weapon, it could have been a hell of a lot easier.
How bout that Sanchez!!! Clutch (say it nat 88).
Crackback is giving Sanchez props! It is a big day!
by EVT on Nov 7, 2010 5:13 PM EST up reply actions
He had a pretty good game
Was hitting his spots for most of the game. His best throw was the one to LT, when LT never looked, but the ball still hit him in the hand.
"Schotty... You Suck!" - Mark Sanchez
Only if the Int was on 3rd and long, woulda been just as good as an incomplete and punt.
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CB will give Sanchez props when he deserves it
dar and nationalist won’t.
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Hey i gave Sanchez grief in week 1, and deservedly so. But i’ve been in his corner since then. That guy from last year doesn’t exist anymore.
Hey Crack I’ll be honest; when it was 20-10 I almost walked away. I’m thinking, 10 points in the last two games against below average defenses? Sanchez has to go. But he did show something by pulling out that win.
Stepping up in the pocket under pressure to hit Holmes on the crossing route in OT. Why doesn’t he show that kind of poise and focus the whole game? Guy drives me nuts!
by nationalist88 on Nov 7, 2010 5:36 PM EST up reply actions
And a bunch of balls were dropped on him again. He definitely needs to improve, he skipped a bunch of balls again, but he’s got the stuff.
Need to see a lot more from him before I’ll agree with that but at least today there were flashes of potential. At this point I’m grateful for flashes!
by nationalist88 on Nov 7, 2010 6:05 PM EST up reply actions
Because our offensive coordinator sucks ass.
That’s why. He’s so busy being cute that we never develop any rhythm.
I'll never apologize for any win in the NFL
That being said, this game bears out my favorite saying – bad teams do more to lose games than good teams do to win them sometimes, and the Lions made more mistakes than the Jets did. The Jets are a good team, and they capitalized. I’ll take 6-2 through eight games, but as Bart Scott just said postgame…we’re happy with the record, but not necessarily the team’s play.
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I feel like we should circle a fire schotty petition or something
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Unfortunately
I have to agree. I said it in the game thread…but I think the best we can hope for is a head coach position next year. For some reason he isn’t being held accountable for an anemic offense with the tools we have.
by EVT on Nov 7, 2010 5:20 PM EST up reply actions
for some reason beyond our understanding
the ownership has been in love with the guy for years.
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This.
I get the feeling that Rex is even twinkle toes around him.
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I've been saying it for 3 years.
Fire Schotty. Who’s gonna hire him now?
by GangGreenGol4 on Nov 7, 2010 5:40 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
If the Jets have a playoff run or better
I imagine other teams will want to at least interview him. Happened before.
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I don't doubt it
I sincerely hope it happens, actually, but either way hope he’s gone soon (fired or hired away)
I really hope Callahan takes over.
I understand how valuable he is to the O-Line, but I’d like to see him call plays too!
Sanchez might of been joking when he called plays in pre-season and scored so easily, and said Schotty you suck-but there is obviously some truth to that!
by GangGreenGol4 on Nov 7, 2010 8:59 PM EST up reply actions
You may be right, I may be crazy
While it might have been “lucky” to pull out this win, that is what championship teams do, and that is why they are the Lions. Championship teams pull out wins that they might not be supposed to get. We won, they lost. They played lazy football for four minutes and it cost them.
Youre not crazy, and that wasn't luck.
We made plays and we won. NO apologies necessary.
Agreed
If anything we were far from lucky. We beat ourselves up early and had to work twice as hard to get the W. This is big (even if it is Detroit).
by EVT on Nov 7, 2010 5:21 PM EST up reply actions
Bigger picture is there aren’t many teams that will kick away games like this if the Jets keep playing the way they have been. Luck was on our side today.
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The Jets finished last season on a 7-2 run including the playoffs.
Combine that with this season and they are 13-4 since the 1-6 streak.
Last season we lost a 4 point game to the Dolphins, a 3 point game to the Bills, a 5 point loss to the Dolphins, a 2 point loss to the Jags and a 3 point loss to the Falcons.
All games we could have won, be it that they would have been ugly wins. A year later no one remembers an ugly win from a good loss. All that matters is wins and losses. This year the Jets are a championship Caliber team because they are winning the tight ones.
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I don't agree totally
Yes it wasn’t the best looking game but the way these games are being called is making it hard for anyone to play football out there. The Jets found a way to win and thats all that counts. I love the W ill take it and we can worry about these Browns who just beat the brakes off of NE…GO JETS
I wonder why Detriot let Suh kick the extra point
If their punter kicks it in then we probably lose this game.
A couple answers.
1) Suh played soccer. He’s probably the second best FG kicker this team has after Hanson went down.
2) Harris is our holder. Holding is a much harder job than it seems.
3) Suh was only like, a sixteenth of an inch (in terms of english on the ball) from making that kick.
4) Can you imagine how NUTS the place would have gotten in terms of noise if he had made it? Pack it up, Jets.
2 minute
I read Sanchez talked Rex into staying in the 2 minute drill in overtime. Funny it didn’t say he talked schotty into it. Time for schotty to go, I think scotty’s game plan is not helping Sanchez develop quicker. Let the kid open up a little and make some of his own calls sometimes.
This
It was clear early on that the Lions were jumping all the short routes, but it took until the end of the second quarter to finally throw deep? Maybe some of that is Sanchez looking for the quick read, but jesus, you can’t throw short for the first 25 minutes of a game. And this is not new, they did it in Denver and they did it all game vs. baltimore. We have downfield threats in Edwards and Holmes, effing use them please. Schotty’s play calling really is crap. Also, LT was great on the last drive, but he’s looked slow getting to the edge the last couple games. On several runs, he should have had more yards. We need more Greene in my opinion.
Here’s the quote and a link to the article:
Sanchez begged for a hurry-up offense. Coach Rex Ryan relented. And that was that.
"The kid’s been trying to get us to go more two minutes," Ryan said. "And I’m a ground-and-pound guy and all that kind of jazz. At the end of the day we said, ‘All right, let it go kid.’ "
Exciting win!
I’m stuck in Beijing. No TV. But fortunately get ESPN 1050 broadcast. Penalties must stop. Sanchez must get more consistent and improve his accuracy. Hard to criticize Shotty without seeing the game—but he seeme lost for most of the game. Cleveland is a team we must defeat. No way will they run on us. Rookie QB against shutdown D. Jets offense needs an 80-yeard, five-minute drive in first quarter. That’s the way to win championships!
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