Detroit Lions Passing Game: Not Based on Wide Receivers
by John B on Nov 3, 2010 8:32 PM EDT
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PrintCalvin Johnson is a promising young star at the wide receiver position. He is also his team's only real receiving threat at the position. After him come Nate Burleson, Bryant Johnson, and Stefan Logan, not exactly a murderer's row. One advantage the Jets will take into games from this point forward is the ability to have Darrelle Revis and Antonio Cromartie match up against receiving duos. The Lions really only utilize Johnson in the passing game, though.
Jahvid Best is the second leading receiver on the roster with 36 receptions and 316 yards. The Jets will need to beware of him as Detroit will look to target him on screens to try and catch Gang Green blitzing. Tight ends Tony Scheffler and Brandon Pettigrew rank third and fourth. They both have over 40 targets. Johnson is the only Detroit receiver with over 30. What this means is the Jets should limit packages with Jim Leonhard in man coverage since we will see double tight sets.
While the caveat exists that these tendencies are mainly based on 5 games where Shaun Hill started instead of Sunday's starter, Matthew Stafford, these are Detroit's best weapons in the passing game. Gang Green won't be able to take it away simple with its terrific corners.
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LBs will be test this game.
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
One thing that John B is overlooking is that this is a different offence with Stafford at QB.
Our back up QB, Shaun Hill, took over in the second half of game one and played until the end of the first half of game seven. He did a great job but he is more of a short passer. He used the TEs and RBs a lot. Stafford has the tools and the confidence to go to his WRs much more frequently.
Against the Skins I thought he overdid it and went to Calvin too often. Against your defence, I think that we have to mix it up. Being one dimensional will be a ticket to Disasterville.
I hope no players get injured in what I expect to be a hard hitting game. Good luck after this week.
for the Lions to win they need a heavy dose of RB and TE action
then try to stretch it.
but i have no idea how you guys are going to slow down the Jets run game.
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
2 ways to take the run away...
Score a shit ton of points, go up early.
OR
Stout Run Defense
… according to the Jets’ away defensive stats, I’d have to say the first is more realistic.
… of course, there is now film on how to do the Latter.
by CLF on Nov 4, 2010 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions
well, good luck with that.
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
We stuffed the Redskin running backs [15 carries for 35 yards].
McNabb got almost 50 yards on a couple of big scrambles when he broke containment. But yes, you guys are a much better running team than the Skins. Almost no comparison.
It will be an interesting match up for sure.
Ok, some of the Lion fans aren't too bright
They over at their site talking about coming over here starting trouble and sending that same picture the Bill fan sent. The problem is they acting like we can’t read what they planing to do. I know I’m being too general and am quite sure there are some stand up guys over there. Actually, Mr footstock post proves that, but I really hate when people take it past any good nature ribbing. Anyway, to all the Lion fans you are welcome here to post all your pictures and talk your smack. However, be careful, the guys at this site are very witty.
I saw that too...
and yes, some of them aren’t too bright.
It was 3rd & 7; Delhomme dropped to pass
"Man, I hope, I don't get knocked on my ass"
He felt twisting and clawing, "When will it stop?"
Then SUH ripped his head off, like a bottle of pop!!
Yeah, I'm a Lions fan
agreed..sorry guys some of this trolling is getting out of hand.
The sleeping Lions are starting to wake up. Get ready jungle. The Kings are about to roar.
Alright
You’ve made a valid point, but if they’re abusive we’ll handle it.
Careful with your words.
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Yeah, it was a bad joke. How about we move on and talk some football?
There was enough garbage spewed in the Hogs Haven/POD fiasco last week. I don’t want to see that happen this week.
I think Calvin Johnson is the 3rd best WR in the NFL. The dude’s a beast. Revis’ biggest challenge since Andre Johnson in week 1 in 2009.
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Andre Johnson is #1, who is your #2? Calvin is 1A in my book.
by SioneBAAOOOHA on Nov 3, 2010 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Ah, yeah. Fitzgerald is probably his other guy. If he had a qb, he’d probably have to be 1. Marshall is close to the top five, but not top three.
My top ten active in the NFL right now would be
Andre
Calvin
Fitz
Roddy White
Reggie Wayne
B. Marshall
Miles Austin
Hines Ward
Boldin
Hakeem NIcks
by SioneBAAOOOHA on Nov 3, 2010 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions
BMarsh is WAAAAYYYY better than Fitz, White and Wayne. Andre, Calvin and BMarsh are interchangeably in the top tier, all others are at least a level below.
No he isn’t. Fitgerald is faster and more athletic, has way better hands and probably has an equal vertical jump. The guy is an absolute freak. Marshall is probably interchangeable with everyone from Roddy White on down, and there’s probably a stronger case to be made for White as interchangeable in the top tier than for Marshall.
He’s definitely at the top of level 1a though. I’m factoring a complete receiver skill set here. If I were going on potential and scariness alone, Hakeem Nicks would probably be number one…
by SioneBAAOOOHA on Nov 4, 2010 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
As Ed Reed once said, "Hell nah!"
Brandon Marshall is overrated. He’s good, definitely a WR1 type of player and a guy that I wouldn’t be sad about having on my team. But top tier? He gets 100 catches per year because he gets targeted like 160 times. And if he’s got breakaway speed, I’ve never seen it because he averages like what, 11~12 yards per catch? He’s supposed to be a goal-line threat with his size and all, but he has 1 TD so far this year.
I’d take Fitz, White, and Wayne over him any day, not to mention Anquan Boldin. I might even think about taking Miles Austin over him too. Size and athletic ability isn’t everything.
You guys really shouldn't have anything to worry about
Top to bottom, you are the superior team this season.
In fact, to level the playing field, why don’t you have the boys take the rest of the week off. lol.
It was 3rd & 7; Delhomme dropped to pass
"Man, I hope, I don't get knocked on my ass"
He felt twisting and clawing, "When will it stop?"
Then SUH ripped his head off, like a bottle of pop!!
Yeah, I'm a Lions fan
It would be nice
but the most decisive victory we’ve had all year was against the Patriots. I’m hoping it’s a great game for all of us but I would feel so much better about my team if we really ran all over you guys. Sorry.
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Weeeeeeeeell
Second-most decisive, after the Bills. :P But I don’t blame ya for forgetting.
Plus that win over the Pats is probably the only one that actually even counts so far :(
One thing to note
Nate Burleson will probably get more targets than his season totals project, he missed two games and Stafford targeted him a lot against the redskins, he had 7 catches. I’m not saying he’ll do well but I do expect him ~7-10 targets
Burlessson
will get plenty of targets this week. They like to use him closer to the line and have him get YAC. If you cover CJ 1 on 1 I guarantee you the Lions will throw to CJ the whole game. If they line up 1 on 1 I could see 20 targets, even if Revis does shut him down.
Kevin Smith
Is another back that has played well the last couple of weeks. He may get increased reps this week as well. He is a very good receiver out of the backfield and a better blocker than Best.
I will say this.
It’s a biznitch and a half trying to gameplan against the best offense in the NFC. With two solid WRs, two solid TEs (league leading TE package), and two very different styles of RBs, I would hate to be a DCoor against the Lions.
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