How do you fix the Offense? Involve Shonn Greene

by Ryan Alfieri on Nov 3, 2010 3:11 PM EDT

The league's best offensive line, blocking for two quality backs (one being a hall of famer), three potential "Number 1" WR's, a top pass-catching tight end, combined with another year of experience in the same system would only allow our Mexican leader to progress, right? How can you possibly expect a bad game with that lineup?

The answer lies within the success of 2009. It seem like the Jets pass-run-pass-punt, rather than "run until you stop us". While LaDainian has been terrific, he does not run with the same kind of brute power that Thomas Jones and Shonn Greene combined for. The Jets must go back to the power running that led them so close to the Super Bowl a year ago.

Now, let's make this clear; the Jets are still an excellent running team. They show as much commitment to the run as any team in the league. However, the style of running has slightly changed, as personnel changed. With Tomlinson, Brian Schottenheimer is able to call more counters, sweeps, and draws. Because Tomlinson is so versatile, using different formations and plays designed to pull the defense away from the play, rather that run right at them. Let's face it, Thomas Jones was not the ideal "finesse" back.

As a result of this, the Jets have gotten away from the straight-ahead, just-try-to-stop-us kind of running. Shonn Greene only gets about a third of the carries.That needs to increase to about 60%. Trust me, defenders like tacking Tomlinson a lot more than Shonn Greene. We all saw Cromartie shy away from that tackle in the AFC Divisional game a year ago. He wanted to part of trying to slow Shonn down.

When you are a physcial kind of back, like Shonn is, you feed off the emotion of the game. As you wear down the defense, you get stronger, until you finally break the big run. With this enhancement of the running game, the laws of football dictate the passing game is bound to improve.

So Schotty, instead of trying to get cute with fancy formations and "gotcha" reverses and whatnot, go back to what the Jets know how to do: power football for 60 minutes. Be the team no one wants to play.

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AGREED! Amen.

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by Max Strauss on Nov 3, 2010 3:12 PM EDT reply actions

Seriously, this seems so obvious

He isn’t even getting a chance, except to do things that he isn’t great at like catching screens. At least, it certainly seems that way watching the games

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by blueandorange4life on Nov 3, 2010 3:23 PM EDT reply actions

Couldn't agree more.

As you wear down the defense, you get stronger, until you finally break the big run.

This is who Shonn Greene is. We should have a 60-40 split favoring the run in the first half of every game, so long as we have a lead or its a one score game. And Greene should be getting the bulk of those carries.

Greene is the kind of back that needs to be fed consistently so he can get into rhythm and dictate temo and authority. We fell too in love with LD and our passing weapons and got away from Greene.

If LD or Sanchez gets hot, of course you ride it. But if all things are equal, or if we’re sputtering, you stick with the blue-print: pound and pound and pound. We’re an authoritative running team with big-play passing options. We’re not a finesse passing team; our QB isn’t ready for that yet.

Unleash the Greene Monster Schotty!!!!!

by Crackback on Nov 3, 2010 3:43 PM EDT reply actions

I would love to see a screen play to LT instead of Greene.

I always see Greene going out for those, and then dropping it or running to make a hit on someone instead of looking for the open field

Get busy winning or get busy losing.

by GangGreenMag on Nov 3, 2010 4:15 PM EDT reply actions

i think with LDT in teams are more likely to look for the screen

That’s the only reason I could think why SG was in for a screen. The problem is SG has to catch that pass. There’s no excuse for dropping that screen pass. You’re a professional for crying out loud.

by BIG OH!!!!! on Nov 3, 2010 4:43 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions

to me, that sounds like typical shotty overthinking

that’s what he always does, “well they’re thinking we’re thinking this, and probably thinking i’m thinking about them thinking about it….so…let’s do something that makes sense to absolutely no one.”
Put your players in position to succeed. Don’t be your own worst enemy.

by Ozone on Nov 3, 2010 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions

Really sums it up-don't be your worst enemy.

by GangGreenGol4 on Nov 3, 2010 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions

and the jets still cant execute a screen. sanchez’ timing on them is awful, and he frequently winds up putting far too much on the ball

by Ozone on Nov 3, 2010 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions

i agree; but this is one time he executed a perfect screen pass and SG dropped it.

by BIG OH!!!!! on Nov 3, 2010 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions

thats the problem with their screen execution,someone involved always effs up (ol,qb,rb). the screen they wound up running after that drop was probably their “best” screen to a rb in years and it went for about 10 yards.

by Ozone on Nov 3, 2010 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions

Thank you--too bad Schotty doesn't understand this!

Maybe they are just saving him for the playoffs—haha, I think he’s well rested now. So, it’s time to use him. Certainly didn’t use him against Denver or Green Bay like we all expected!

by GangGreenGol4 on Nov 3, 2010 4:22 PM EDT reply actions

hey

this is shonn greene. i appreciate the support.
thanks,
shonn greene.

by enron4515 on Nov 3, 2010 4:48 PM EDT reply actions

Next time Schotty calls a pass play on 1st down, grab the ball from Sanchez before he does something dangerous, and RUN with it!

by nationalist88 on Nov 3, 2010 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions

Certainly run it down their throats instead of trick plays

But I think Greene’s lack of on field utilization is to blame on his disappointing performance when he is called on more than anything else.

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by Bro Namath on Nov 3, 2010 5:04 PM EDT reply actions

Schotty

Schotty just said that he’s going to run the ball more. Only he doesn’t want other teams to suspect it, so he’s designing plays for Joe McKnight.

"Schotty... You Suck!" Mark Sanchez

by jetsbill on Nov 3, 2010 5:17 PM EDT reply actions

I hope this is a bad joke

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by Bro Namath on Nov 3, 2010 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions

Ground and Pound!!!!!!

Run the rock, beat on the Defense and the kill them with passing, WTH? Too much passing the last game.

by OneShoT on Nov 3, 2010 5:28 PM EDT reply actions

agree

more greene off right tackle please. less of brian out thinking himself. I’ve been one of his biggest critics over his tenure but his playcalling has been good all season, except for the ravens and packers game. If shotty wants to be more fancy in an area, let b smith throw a few times a game.

by Ozone on Nov 3, 2010 5:41 PM EDT reply actions

forte

Shotty has a boss who has balls bigger than all outdoors. Don’t get me wrong, I think Ryan is as gutsy and smart as they come. Been a long time since Jets fans have looked at an NFL season with excitement, not wondering who we are going to take in the NEXT years draft cause we finished 5-11. That makes me wonder why he hasn’t grabbed ole Brian by the shirt and pushed him against the wall in his office and say “What the f***”"? “. Run the f****** ball Shotty”. That is our forte, that is our strenght. That is our moneymaker. Shake it. Kick the other guys in the babymaker and dare them to stop us. Granted, Thomas Jones was a back who had 20-25 three yard runs a game, then break one or two for 50 yards. Same as Greene. That’s what bruisers do. LT is not. He is a finesse back, who has the ability through juking the linebackers to make those large runs at any point, once he gets past the D line. I don’t know nearly as much as some of the contributors to GGN. But it just seems alien to me to stray away from… A: what you said you are going to do (ryan “we will run the ball”) and B: doing wjhat you do best… leading the NFL in rushing. I’m glad for Detroit’s emergence from the cellar, the laughing stock of the NFL. I hope they continue it. I also hope after this week, their whole defensive line is on the IR cause they were pummelled into submission by the Jets.
Jets playing Shotty ball this weekend… Detroit 24-15. Back to old school Jets ball.. Jets 30-16

by jaxopguy on Nov 3, 2010 6:24 PM EDT reply actions