Do we really miss these players?

by BIG OH!!!!! on Nov 27, 2010 7:30 AM EST

Been a lot of talk about LDT slowing down and the Jets need Kerry Rhodes; this is just a comparison between the players the Jets let go and the players that replaced them. Just a note, LDT has slowed down, but it seems like the Jets have changed the way they are running him. I could be wrong, but I feel like the Jets were running him outside earlier in the season. I do know, that in the last few games SG has gotten all the pitch runs, while LDT has run more between the tackles. I believe LDT is the running back the Jets need more in space. Also, he was averaging 5.5 yards a carry earlier in the season. There was no way he was going to keep that pace. No poll, just would like to hear some opinions on this matter.

Thomas Jones

RUSHING						RECEIVING
		G	RUSH	YDS	Y/G	AVG	TD	REC	YDS	Y/G	AVG	TD
2010	Chiefs	10	156	644	64.4	4.1	5	5	40	4	8	0

LaDainian Tomlinson

RUSHING						RECEIVING
		G	RUSH	YDS	Y/G	AVG	TD	REC	YDS	Y/G	AVG	TD
2010	Jets	10	153	692	69.2	4.5	5	43	315	31.5	7.3	0

Thursday’s game not included due to Thomas Jones not playing his 11th game yet. As you can see the two players numbers are similar when it comes to rushing the ball. You really can’t measure this stat due to the players having played against different opponents. However, LDT receiving stats show why it was a great decision to pickup LDT and let go Thomas Jones. Combined LDT already has over 1000 all purpose yards, while TJ receiving yards + rushing does not even add up to LDT rushing yards alone.

Leon Washington

RUSHING						RECEIVING
		G	RUSH	YDS	Y/G	AVG	TD	REC	YDS	Y/G	AVG	TD
2010	Seahawks	10	18	59	5.9	3.2	0	4	37	3.7	9.2	0

Shonn Greene

RUSHING						RECEIVING
		G	RUSH	YDS	Y/G	AVG	TD	REC	YDS	Y/G	AVG	TD
2010	Jets	10	122	505	50.5	4.1	1	8	58	5.8	7.2	0

Ok, this is no contest. Apparently, Leon is not in Seattle running plans. He does have a great 5.9 rushing average, but only 18 rushes in ten games is about 1.2 rushing attempts per game. I did think Shonn Greene would have a more productive year, but now hearing reports that he came to camp out of shape. Also, see John B. article on Brad Smith replacing Leon Washington.

Brodney Pool

		SACKS			INTERCEPTIONS			TACKLES
YEAR	TEAM	G	SACKS	YDSL	INT	YDS	INTTD	SOLO	AST	TOTAL
2010	Jets	9	0	0	1	0	0	29	9	38

Kerry Rhodes

		*SACKS*			*INTERCEPTIONS*			*TACKLES*
*YEAR*	*TEAM*	G	*SACKS*	*YDSL*	*INT*	*YDS*	*INTTD*	*SOLO*	*AST*	TOTAL
2010	Cardinals	10	0	0	2	131	0	59	7	66

Again, statistics can be misleading. Rhodes has an unordinary amount a tackles for a safety. To have this many tackles means either as safety you play a lot of run support and is getting to the ball carrier; or it means the defense you on is terrible and most of the safety tackles is deep in the back end. Either way it seems like Kerry is having a decent season in Arizona. Brodney Pool, while disappointing he has not been more of a factor in the Jets secondary, seems to come up with a game saving/changing play every now and then. Back to mister Rhodes, I probably was one of the first people on this site who insisted the Jets miss him. However, miss him or not, my beef with the Jets for trading him was they could have gotten more for him. He was a cancer whom seem like he was jealous of the players Rex brought in from Baltimore. I admit the Jets probably miss him in the secondary, but as a fan, I don’t miss him

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Rhodes wasn't the answer at Safety but he was still better than Pool...

LT is way better than TJ, thats not even close.

by Judgegavel on Nov 27, 2010 11:26 AM EST reply actions

Everything I’ve heard from Arizona fans is that Rhodes has been playing great. We do miss him.

The other two? Not so much.

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by John B on Nov 27, 2010 1:46 PM EST reply actions

People jumped all over me for saying Pool was a serious downgrade

unfortunately I was right.

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by Bro Namath on Nov 27, 2010 3:43 PM EST reply actions

I was against trading Kerry at the time. I never like selling for 40 cents on the dollar. As much of an underachiever as he was, he was money in coverage. I get that chemistry matters, but the fact of the matter is his locker room influence didn’t keep us from getting to the AFC Championship Game last year.

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by John B on Nov 27, 2010 5:21 PM EST up reply actions

Great point and also he was a factor in the Jets allowing only eight passing touchdowns all year, last season.

by BIG OH!!!!! on Nov 27, 2010 5:30 PM EST up reply actions

I think more so it was Revis being 100% the whole year

I really don’t think he was in last years form till like week 8.

by Judgegavel on Nov 29, 2010 8:13 PM EST up reply actions

Leon Washington is beasting on teams.

kick ret, 30.3
punt ret. 23.8

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by Troy O on Nov 28, 2010 12:51 AM EST reply actions

Smith is just behind him on kick returns, and Washington only has 5 punt returns.

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by John B on Nov 28, 2010 10:35 AM EST up reply actions

yeah

they were going two Golden Tate on most punt returns. i can see that changing,although hes good too

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by Troy O on Nov 28, 2010 10:46 AM EST up reply actions

rhodes

Yeah Rhodes been playing great because the Cards are last in defense and points allowed. Rhodes has padded his stats because when you have the worst defense, the secondary has to make a lot of plays and on the filed longer. Maybe rhodes is a better player than pool but not a serious downgrade. He saved the phins game twice and did a game changer with the pass deflection in the end zone to a wide open receiver. Plus was a cancer to the team. Never heard of a good cancer.
I know it makes for good conversation but Leon was a good let go with his leg, you never know but not worth the chance to take as was stated months ago, Woody doing good with the pats which sucks but good for him. Wished we kept him so the pats wouldn’t but its done already. Woody flourishing in the pats game and probably just on the ST with the jets. We’re 9-2 and happy with that and must be on top of our game for the 1st monday in december. It’s now crunch time.

by ocjet on Nov 28, 2010 1:43 AM EST reply actions

rhodes = green

Kerry Rhodes’s numbers this year are really similar to Victor Green for the Jets in the mid 90’s. I always loved him but its a serious problem when your safety leads the team in tackles. I’m not saying Kerry will lead the Cards in tackles but its a very similar situation. The Cards defense is terrible and that’s why he’s making more plays… Same with Victor Green and the Jets of the mid 90’s

by airamerica11 on Nov 29, 2010 12:21 AM EST up reply actions