It's Time for the Jets to Make the Switch at RB
We're at the halfway point of the 2010 season, and it's time for the Jets to reverse the roles at RB and give Shonn Greene the lion's share of the carries. LT has been terrific, but he hasn't been the same RB the last couple of weeks. Not only do the stats bear that out, but so do the Jets' rushing numbers and their performance as a team on the whole.
The inconsistencies on the Jets offense began after their win over Minnesota. The Jets have gone 2-1 against the Broncos, Packers and Lions since that game, but each and every one of those games have been a titanic struggle. So were LT's performances.
It could be a coincidence, but after the Vikings game LT had 76 carries for 435 yds, 5.7YPC. Since the Minnesota game these are his very pedestrian numbers: 16 carries for 55 yards vs. Denver, 16 carries for 65 yards vs. GB and 15 carries for 55 yards vs. Detroit. Overall that's 47 carries for 164 yards, 3.5YPC
Those numbers look very similar to his production in the same weeks last season with SD: 18 carries for 70 yards, 23 carries for 71 yards and 18 carries for 56 yards. Overall that's 61 carries for 197 yards, 3.2YPC.
To show it's not the OL's fault, Greene's numbers in the same games were: 9 carries for 43 yards vs. Denver, 6 carries for 22 yards vs. GB and 10 carries for 46 yards vs. Detroit. Overall that's 25 carries for 111 yards, 4.5YPC,
The Jets' offensive philosophy of ground and pound didn't really take shape last season until the Jets made Greene the feature RB and Jones tired. The problem was they made the switch too late. By the time they went to Greene, Jones was shot. When Greene got hurt in the AFC title game Jones had nothing left in the tank to give them.
Make a switch now. At worst, this will keep LT fresh and may even help to rejuvenate him. LT's longest carries in the first six games were 21, 31, 21, 26, 17 and 20. His longest carries the last two weeks are 8 and 10 yards.
Just like in 2008, it's all in front of the Jets right now. After successive wins against the 10-0 Titans and the big win at New England back in '08. the Jets were 8-3 and had their destiny in their own hands before collapsing under an avalanche of Brett Favre interceptions.
Once again in 2010, the Jets' destiny is in their own hands.
There are four AFC teams with 6-2 records. The Jets so far are 1-1 against those teams, and they have two more games against those 6-2 teams.
Make the switch to Greene now. Maybe this will inject a little bit of the hurry up into their offense. The defense needs to step it up just as it did in the 2nd half of last year. Championships drives are many times begun in November. Sure, you would like to see teams win convincingly week after week, but what is important, truly important, is for teams to win in November and to get better each week while doing so.
Most years, a 5-3 second half after a 6-2 first half would be a good thing. An 11-5 might even get you the AFC East title. but if you want to be a team of consequence, a team that gets a bye or even the top overall seed 11-5 will not be good enough. Not this year.
One of these 6-2 teams is going to finish at 13-3, and that team will be the team that gets the #1 seed atop the AFC. The Jets are at Cleveland this week before hosting Houston the following week and Cincinnati at home on Thanksgiving night. Then they play a four week stretch of games that will no doubt tell the story of theie 2010 regular season
The first of those four games is at New England, who were run out of the building in Cleveland by Eric Mangini's Browns. Next up are the Steelers in Pittsburgh, who held off a furious rally in Cincinnati and came that close to blowing a 20 point lead for the first team in their team's history, but they held on. Game three has the Jets hosting the Dolphins who today announced Chad Pennington would be their starter on Sunday. The final game in this grueling four game stretch is at Chicago before closing the regular season at home against Buffalo.
The Jets almost lost to a 2-5 Lions team, but just like the Steelers they found a way to win on the road, always tough in the NFL. They don't award style points when you win. You just get the W and keep trying getting better. The Jets NEED the win in Cleveland on Sunday, just as they need to win at home against Houston and Cincinnati. They need to have re-establish momentum going into that pivotal four game stretch beginning in Week 13 at New England.
This week Pittsburgh is playing New England. Baltimore is playing the 6-2 Falcons in Atlanta. The Jets have a chance to open up a one game lead on two of the three teams currently tied atop the AFC with six wins and stay even with the other six win team. Cleveland is playing lights out football lately and has become something of a giant killer, beating New England, Baltimore, and New Orleans for their three wins.
None of that matters. The Jets need to win in Cleveland. 2-0, 51-50, it doesn't matter. They need to win.
Find a way.
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My exact thoughts
i love what LT has done for us so far this season but its obvious he is NOT the same HB that he was in weeks 1-3…its time for Shonn to pick up the slack and get that 20-25 carries per game that he should be getting, i think LT will be best served as a 4-8 carry per game HB and have him in packages that will give Sanchez a reliable checkdown option…LT has been GREAT, but the Tread on his tires is starting to wear thin.
Great post Russ, I totally agree
Good to see you around and posting, man. Hope you’re doing well.
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totally agree
The running game has become stagnant…time to go back inside for the colder days ahead. Its time for Greene.
I blame Lil Schotty
It’s easier that way.
Really though, I think it’s a matter of motivation. It’s the middle of the season, a bit of a lull between big games. I think the Jets might be looking ahead a bit too much.
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The only thing I can concerned about with this move is how well LT handles it
Get busy winning or get busy losing.
I can see him on the bench sulking if he isn't the head honcho
I hope I am wrong, and this new era as a Jet has made him more of a team player. Of course he has seemed like one now, but he has also been the starter.
Get busy winning or get busy losing.
by GangGreenMag on Nov 10, 2010 9:53 PM EST up reply actions
I would hope he understands that the end of the season is important and getting burned out now helps no one.
LdT getting over 300 touches this year will not end well imo BUT I also thought he was washed up to begin with so I would love to be wrong again:)
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I don't think it's that simple
Its hard to get a rhythm going when you get a run then there are two straight passes. I admit LDT has looked average, but Shonn Greene has not been tearing it up either. If the Jets are going to use any one they need to run them into the ground. Sanchez has thrown the ball 38 and 39 times in games the jets were never really out of. I’m afraid it don’t matter who they start, the OC is killing this team.
by BIG OH!!!!! on Nov 10, 2010 10:53 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Totally agree
I’ve already mentioned this but they just aren’t playing jet football. Shotty is passing first running last resort it seems to me. Which really isn’t the strenght of this team, with such a killer O-line we should just be pounding the hell out of their line with our backs and keepin them honest with the pass thats about it. I think LT and Greene are a great duo but I would do 50-50 or 70-30 in favor of greene. Let him beat up the D for the most part in the first half of the game and then put in LT when they are wore out and let him work his speed game.
In Rex Ryan we trust.
Hey never believe all these hype about we gat a killer O-line. what about the D-line of the other teams? Jets coaches, players and fans love to underestimate their opponents and that is why the come into games half prepared, confused because the believe they have killer this or killer that.
by overloadblitz on Nov 11, 2010 12:32 PM EST up reply actions
maybe a little drastic. id start with 50-50 , what it should have been all along.
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Not much
There’s a reason he’s been deactivated week in and week out. In Rex I trust on this one.
by bobdolethesnapplelady on Nov 10, 2010 11:16 PM EST up reply actions
Dont trust him, AT ALL.
Maybe we give him some carries against Cincy or an easier game like that
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I want to see if he has made any progress running between the tackles. I would just hate it if he doesn't amount to anything
Get busy winning or get busy losing.
by GangGreenMag on Nov 10, 2010 11:19 PM EST up reply actions
I have been saying this like forever, even if the kid fumbles so what. Adrian Peterson,Ahmad Breadshaw,Mike Turner, Shonn Greene all fumble the ball, so y r the jets hard on this kid. Talking about how the want him to run thru tackles and in the middle. Why not allow him be that Back who bounces it to the edge and make plays with his elusiveness.
by overloadblitz on Nov 11, 2010 12:36 PM EST up reply actions
I just wish we had a 3rd option to take the pressure off of the both of them
Get busy winning or get busy losing.
+1
yeah for a team that lives and dies on the running game (or is suppose to anyway) they are playing high stakes on LdT and Greene not getting banged up.
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I am not saying we should give him a huge role
Just a few carries here and there. The kid still has a lot of talent/potential
Get busy winning or get busy losing.
by GangGreenMag on Nov 10, 2010 11:42 PM EST up reply actions
IDK about McKnight/ I was agreeing with your wish for a 3rd RB that can be trusted, I hope McKnight can be that since he is on the roster.
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:( Where is Woodhead when you need him
Oh yeah, he is the enemy now.
Get busy winning or get busy losing.
by GangGreenMag on Nov 11, 2010 12:02 AM EST up reply actions
Well its a funny thing, would be nice to have a sure handed backup RB who can contribute on special teams.
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It is risky going with just 2 backs
A third guy here and there would help, I would really like to see McKnight for just a couple carries or screens or something. It’s unlikely that Greene and LT get through the whole season unscathed. And then you have to throw McKnight out there with added pressure on him. Let him get his feet wet.
I think the media should start asking LT in interviews if he thinks he has hit a wall.
We need to put a chip back on his shoulders.
Get busy winning or get busy losing.
Also the media should ask Rex repeatedly why the pass rush is non existent and the defense plays scared afraid to attack.
by overloadblitz on Nov 11, 2010 12:38 PM EST up reply actions
Might as well
drop in the guy who’s been falling down after a yard, dropping screen passes and failing on blocks. Maybe I’m watching a different player than everyone else.
My memory must be faulty because I don’t remember Shonn Greene being a major player in the game tying drive in the last two minutes last week. Pretty sure it was someone else that came through for us in a clutch. Why not reward him by handing the ball to someone who hasn’t proven a thing.
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except that he can’t beat out LT for the starting RB spot.
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this is a huge overreaction
Instead of putting this on LT, it should be on the penalties that set up bad down and distance for running, and on the game plans in general.
There’s something to be said for letting things play out until we can put together a game where the skills of the running back can be judged.
There’s also something to be said for looking at our game tying drive last week, as Bro pointed out.
YES
very true, i have seen LT or Greene make runs of 8-20 yards, then it gets called backed for a Illegal Set, or something stupid, it really pisses me off, but what can ya do?…as far as McKnight is concerned, i say hes worth a shot in LIMITED ACTION, ..we need to have a COMFORTABLE LEAD first before i trust him with the ball.
just a quick correction
the Browns lost to Baltimore. Their first win came against the Bengals.
David Eckstein: so gritty they would eat him in the south for breakfast with some butter and sprinkle cheese.
I prefer the vertical passing game
Use our weapons to go straight down the field. Its becoming our bread and butter. If LT gets 65 and Greene gets 65 per game, then I am happy with that. Go Jets!
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totally agree
we should give green more carries especially early in a game , keep LT as a 3rd down back and give him more carries later on in games . i’d also like to see more split back plays . having the option for either to run with green or LT , screens to either side or LT motion out to the slot would give defences another headache . i don’t think LT will last until january with his current workload .
More quality football news conference
Why is the media never ask intelligent football questions during Rex’s news conference. I am tired of the same boring questions from the press and boring jokes from Rex and how his team is prepared and what not.
our 3rd rb
is washington still in the practice squad? he impressed me in pre~season. no just his running abilities but also his competitiveness on special teams .he looked like he’d run through a wall if rex asked him to. he HAS to be a better option than mc knight
sorry to inform you but...
He is now with the Rams last I heard.
by Mac N Cheese on Nov 11, 2010 9:52 PM EST up reply actions
I THINK
that LT hasn’t been consistent the last couple games due to the quality of the defenses, and our O line being physically outmatched. Give him a hole and he’ll always gain positive yardage. Green is good, he just needs to hold onto the ball. Just my 2 cents.
There's a reason why he was let go in SD
He might have a minor injury he’s not disclosing. Before 2008, 3.5 yards a carry for any length of time was unheard of. Lately, it’s been his standard production. When healthy, he’s still a better all-around back back than 90% of the league. But he just can’t stay healthy anymore. If he’s not the focus of the offense, his motivation goes down dramatically. It will be interesting to see if he bounces back or not.
It looks like the Jets are listening to me. They will be activating MckNight for this game.
Get busy winning or get busy losing.

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