Matt Slauson's Matchup With Kevin Williams Should Convince the Jets to Pass to Set Up the Run
When the Jets run the football, they love to go behind Brandon Moore and Damien Woody, the right side of the line. Offensive lines function as a unit, though. Monday night the way things look on the left side makes me worry about whether the Jets will be able to run it right.
Pat Williams plays nose tackle in Minnesota's 4-3 scheme. A nose tackle in a 4-3 defense has a similar function to one in a 3-4, mainly take up space, hold the point of attack, and take up multiple blockers to prevent them from hitting the second level of a defense. In other words, Williams needs to keep the offensive linemen off the linebackers so the linebackers can make plays. Unlike in the 3-4, the nose in the 4-3 does not line up directly over the center. He usually lines up between the center and a guard, Moore in this case.
Nick Mangold is capable of handling Williams by himself. He has consistently held his own against the best the game has to offer. The question is whether he will get the chance.
Kevin Williams is Minnesota's other tackle. He plays the three technique, a tackle whose role is to shoot one gap and penetrate. He lines up between a guard and a tackle. In this case, the guard is Matt Slauson. Williams consistently wins matchups. The Jets will be running mainly away from him, but Williams can still disrupt plays by beating Slauson inside. If that happens, Mangold will need to help. That would leave Brandon Moore and Damien Woody to handle Pat Williams and Ray Edwards. Moore is an excellent run blocker, but Williams would be a handful on his own. Linebackers Chad Greenway and E.J. Henderson would also pursue with only Tony Richardson left to block on most plays. LaDainian Tomlinson is capable of making guys miss. Shonn Greene can grind out extra yardage. It's easiest when the line is doing its job, though.
If Slauson handles one Williams, Mangold can focus on the other Williams. That leaves Edwards and linebackers against two linemen and a fullback.
The Slauson-Williams matchup concerns me, though. We can talk about how things pan out if Slauson wins his battles, but it's advantage Minnesota. The Jets can slide D'Brickashaw Ferguson to help at times and let Jared Allen go unblocked since they are running away from him. They can pull Slauson to change the assigments. Ultimately, I think the move is to rely more on the passing game to keep the linebackers back. Pass to set up the run. The Jets have matchups there to exploit.
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Excellent post, John
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Excellent post
Facts, insight and no mention of the opposing players’ genitalia.
Nice post.
I missed exactly why you thought this meant pass to set up the run, though. Do you feel that there is going to be better success in the passing game with the Slauson issue?
"Sometimes it's the people. Any player can play defense, but not every player will play defense. Sometimes it's a lack of perseverance." - A. Johnson
Well, you can run away from Slauson, but if you drop back don’t you have a serious protection problem?
"Sometimes it's the people. Any player can play defense, but not every player will play defense. Sometimes it's a lack of perseverance." - A. Johnson
by kv on Oct 8, 2010 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s much easier to give Slauson help. You can leave in an extra blocker or use Mangold.
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I agree with you.
Looking at the FO numbers thus far:
Minnesota line against the run:
Ranked
8th in Adj line yards
3rd in stuffed run
9th against the 2nd level run
While against the pass:
ranked 24th in Adjusted sack rate
They are stuffing the run pretty well (though have given up some long runs), but are not getting to the QB.
This reads as using the pass to set up the run (and thereby get some longer runs).
Further, they are ranked 4th and 1st in ALY against LT and RT runs respectively. You can run outside on them, but this is not Jet bread and butter. Interestingly Viking opponents ran right up the middle (59% of the time off guard) on them, something they had trouble handling (one imagines a few draw plays here). This where the Jets run most of their runs (61%) but with Slauson I can’t see a power game plan working on Williams.
"Sometimes it's the people. Any player can play defense, but not every player will play defense. Sometimes it's a lack of perseverance." - A. Johnson
by kv on Oct 8, 2010 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions
on David Harris?
Here’s my question Jet fans. Do you think David Harris can be an effective edge rusher? It seems to me he’s got the physicals, the quickness, speed, the strength and in the kind of the physical mold of Dumervil or Woodley. Maybe as a different look to OTs that have trouble with those shorter edge rushers. I think he could do it, or I’d like to see him try to see what it looks like. I’d really like more pressure off the edge.
Why take one of the better 3-4 ILB's in the NFL
and make him an OLB? Doesn’t make sense to me, I think that’s like taking a good centerfielder and moving him into a corner.
agree
olb are linebackers that cant do everything a mlb can david harris is a top why fix it if it aint broke
by SLAUGHTERHOUSE on Oct 9, 2010 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions
I meant
David harris is a top 5 MLB why fix it if it aint broken
by SLAUGHTERHOUSE on Oct 9, 2010 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions
GEEZ we are a matchup problem
What don’t we do well, I can imagine the Vikings defensive coordinator after watching Brad Smith throw that touchdown and seeing Holmes come back like ohhh GOD.
Pass to set up the run. The Jets have matchups there to exploit.
There are match ups to exploit, but interestingly this year the Vikings are ranked 2nd in defending passes to the RB, and 5th in passes thrown to the TE. Part of this is due to their opponents, but it is something to consider.
In pass defense their biggest problem has thus far been throws to the primary receiver or the 3rd receiver (where they rank in the 20s).
"Sometimes it's the people. Any player can play defense, but not every player will play defense. Sometimes it's a lack of perseverance." - A. Johnson
Even if we assume Slauson is terrible...
which he hasn’t been, don’t you find it unlikely that even a player the caliber of Williams, while playing a 3-tech would be able to read run off the snap and still obtain inside leverage?
I could see maybe if it was a designed stunt where they had the line slanting in that particular direction, but that would leave them highly exposed to the cut-back that we’re not unaccustomed to running.
I really can’t see Slauson getting beat with consistency on a run to the other side, not even by Williams.
The thing is with LTD the Jets been running more off tackle.
I know they have to keep them honest and run some up the middle, but can anybody say how are the vikings when they defend outside runs. Also we seen in the saints game that the Williams wall can crumble in the second half. To give up so many running lanes so early in the second half means either the saints had them guessing or the D-line was tired after only one half.
The thing is with LTD the Jets been running more off tackle.
I thought so too, but in looking at the stats it just isn’t the case.
2009
Left End 6% (29)
Left Tackle 10% (17)
Mid/Guard 52% (12)
Right Tackle 23% (1)
Right End 9% (23)
2010
Left End 7% (2)
Left Tackle 11% (23)
Mid/Guard 61% (3)
Right Tackle 16% (2)
Right End 5% (3)
Percent is the percent out of total runs. The parenthesis show the league rank for ALY (Adjusted Line Yards), basically a statistical measue of just how effective the OL has been in runs in that direction.
can anybody say how are the vikings when they defend outside runs.
The Vikings DL this year are weak on the outside. The percentage of run directions they have defended, and their ALY DL rank stats:
Left End 13% (14)
Left Tackle 8% (4)
Mid/Guard 59% (14)
Right Tackle 10% (1)
Right End 11% (20)
Last year though they were much more effective on Right End runs. Across the board from left to right: 25,8,5,8,2
Keep in mind, these adjusted yards are meant to devalue long run yards so to only measure Defensive line performance.
"Sometimes it's the people. Any player can play defense, but not every player will play defense. Sometimes it's a lack of perseverance." - A. Johnson
by kv on Oct 9, 2010 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions
"Sometimes it's the people. Any player can play defense, but not every player will play defense. Sometimes it's a lack of perseverance." - A. Johnson
by kv on Oct 9, 2010 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions
but it lies with SHOTTY ULTIMATELY
He had some good games plans i beleive thats why its starting to jell, this is just the tip of the ice berg of how explosive this team can be imo , id like to see brad more throwing hes got a decent arm ( as in the recent td toss) more screens we need to fire up Jco and santiono then spreads the feild for Braylon and the run………..i feel the jets will attack the least mobile quarterback they faced this season , and looking for our ball hawks to rule the nest……LOL
I get nervous when Sanchez throw screens
If you watch him the pressure from letting the D-line in makes him rush the throw almost every time. Hence you get throws behind the runner/pass catcher and throws like the one he threw against Miami.
I agree, he has no game feel in when working the screen pass.
It is as if he’s a fish out of water. He doesn’t quite know how to relax and let the play develop.
"Sometimes it's the people. Any player can play defense, but not every player will play defense. Sometimes it's a lack of perseverance." - A. Johnson
by kv on Oct 9, 2010 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Nose Tackle in a 4-3?????
Sorry to burst your bubble but there is no such thing as a nose tackle in a 4-3 defense. The 4-3 consists of 2 DT’s and 2 DE’s. The 3-4 contains a NT and 2 DE’s. This is fundamental defensive knowledge. Some defenses are hybrids that change their defensive front in the game, to confuse offenses, but this is usually a base defense of 3-4 allignment that switches to 4-3 or 4-6. I have never seen or heard of a 4-3 defense using a nose tackle. There are so many fundamental differences between the formations that hybrids or switches are uncommon due to the extensive need for flexibilty and veratility from DE’s and LB’s.

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