Packers 9 Jets 0: Halloween Blanking
The Jets fell to 5-2 today after losing at home 9-0 to the Green Bay Packers. The score is indicative of the way the team played. The defense, which held Green Bay out of the end zone, was terrific. The offense, which did not register a point, was really bad. It was unlikely the Jets were going to win out and finish 15-1, but so many self-inflicted errors coming out of a bye are very frustrating.
More after the jump.
The Bad:
Brian Schottenheimer: The offensive coordinator gets the headline here. While plenty of heat has to go on the players for not executing, it is just impossible to defend the job Schotty did. Green Bay has an incredibly banged up defensive front. They are so thin that they put in an offensive lineman in their goal line packages. The Jets entered the game with the second ranked run offense in the league. The Packers came into this game allowing 4.7 yards per rush. Got all that?
Mark Sanchez dropped back to pass over 40 times today. LaDainian Tomlinson and Shonn Greene combined for 22 carries. Even though Sanchez was struggling badly, there was no change in the philosophy as the game progressed. Yes, Green Bay did load their front and dare the Jets to throw it. Yes, they did largely bottle Greene and Tomlinson up. Here's the thing. We saw many times last year that when the Jets committed to the run, there was often not early success. The idea is to keep on pounding the defense to wear it down. Eventually the line started getting traction, and backs started popping big carries. Greene's pounding style should have been a more integral part of the game plan than for him to get 6 carries.
Then we could go on with the gimmicky calls like going to an unbalanced line then running a long developing end around to the side linemen vacated. Green Bay's defensive backs were jumping everything short. Schottenheimer kept calling these passes instead of trying to find holes in the zone. This was as poorly called of a game as you will ever see.
Mark Sanchez: Numbers sometimes lie. Mark's did not today. He finished 16 of 38 with 2 interceptions and 0 touchdowns. He easily could have ended with 6 picks. Most of his incompletions were way off the mark. While his offensive coordinator and receivers didn't give him much help, Sanchez didn't do much to help his own fate. He was making bad decisions. A perfect example was the first interception. He threw the ball to a covered receiver over five yards short of the sticks on third down. Even a good result there would have forced the Jets to punt. When the reads were right, the throws were off.
Jerricho Cotchery: Now, this is a case of numbers lying. While the stats look good (4 catches, 89 yards), he had a pair of killer drops on the last two Jets drives. In addition, even if he was down, he can't let a defender rip the ball from him like he did on the first interception.
Santonio Holmes: He had a drop that cost the Jets a big play and possibly a touchdown himself.
Dustin Keller: Aside from his late big catch, he wasn't much of a factor in the passing game. He took a holding penalty and missed a block that could have sprung Brad Smith on a first half run. In addition, even if he was down, he can't let a defender rip the ball from him like he did on the second interception.
Shonn Greene: Greene should have gotten more carries, but he dropped a pass on a potentially big play developing on a screen and was beaten twice when staying in to pass block.
LaDainian Tomlinson: Part of it was his blocking, but LT went down on too many arm tackles today. He also lost his balance a few times when he could have broken a big run.
Offensive Line: Nobody was getting much of a push, and our friend Nick Mangold took a holding call that made Nick Folk's field goal try tougher.
Nick Folk: That try was still inside 40 yards, and the kick was not even close.
Brad Smith: Normally a hero, Smith's fumble killed a promising drive.
Drew Coleman: Drew wasn't terrible, but the Packers hit a key pass against him on the first two field goal tries.
Rex Ryan's Game Management: I didn't like the way Rex burned his second challenge early in the game. It was on a third down play where even had he won it, the Jets would have had to punt anyway. Maybe he could have used it on Woodson's interception. Would it have changed anything? I don't know, but it would have been worth a look. I also thought he burned the last timeout in the second half too early. The Jets would have gotten the ball back with over 3:00 left anyway. I suppose it didn't make too much of a difference in the end since they still would have given it up in field goal range, but I still didn't like the move.
I also didn't like the lack of Revis Island. Allowing Greg Jennings to create a favorable matchup against Coleman in the slot led to that first field goal. Revis is the best corner on the team.
The Good:
David Harris: Maybe one of these days Harris will get the recognition he derserves. He is constantly getting to the ball and making plays. He led the team with 9 tackles and recorded a sack.
Bart Scott: Everything I said about Harris applies to Scott. Bart was second on the team with 7 tackles.
Shaun Ellis/Sione Pouha/Mike Devito: These guys dominated up front. Ellis in particular was controlling his matchups. Whenever the opponent averages just over 3 yards per rush, the defensive line gets props.
Steve Weatherford: Weatherford did a typical solid job on punts and showed a lot of athleticism on his run. It took a great play to keep him just short of the sticks.
Blitz Calls: The pass rush harassed Aaron Rodgers and seemed to consistently confuse Green Bay's offensive line.
Dwight Lowery: I thought Lowery stood up very well in coverage and recorded a sack.
Tony Richardson: He was matched up one on one with linebackers in pass protection more than I would have liked, but he handled it well.
Darrelle Revis/Antonio Cromartie: I have seen both guys play better games. The Packers left a few things on the field against both when receivers got open. At the end of the day, though, arguably one of the top five quarterbacks in the game completed under 50% of his passes against this secondary, though.
The Fake Punt Call: I think often we relate result to thought process. That's why people defend Schottenheimer going to the Wildcat on 3rd and 15 when Brad Smith rips off a 16 yard run against all odds. The fake punt did not make a first down. It was well scouted, though. The Packers were fooled. It took a great play to stop Weatherford short. It was a good spot on the field to take a shot with the defense playing so well and the offense needing something of a shot in the arm. Winning games like these require risks sometimes. They don't always work out, but I liked the calculated gamble the coaching staff took on the call.
Other Thoughts:
- I like Moose Johnston, but I thought he was totally wrong getting on Sanchez when he didn't look for Braylon Edwards deep. He was rolling the other way and would have either had to throw against his body or stop on a dime and reset. Part of the reason Woodson released and let Braylon get open was because he saw how tough that throw would be.
- Was that the longest first half you've ever seen? Usually low scoring games take little time because both teams run it a lot.
That was very disappointing. Losses are one thing. Losses due to a lot of self-inflicted wounds are another. I give the Packers a lot of credit. The Jets made a lot of mistakes against Minnesota and Denver, but those teams couldn't take advantage. I still feel like Gang Green left a lot out there today.
We head to Detroit.
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Not Marks fault
Not his best game, but this one is on the receivers. Holmes dropped a gimme in space that probably would have been a TD, and Cotchery was stonehands today. Neither of the INTs were his fault either.
Don’t know how you could say otherwise.
3 dropped ints by the packers.
im sure hes happy it was only 2.
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
by Troy O on Oct 31, 2010 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
It wasn't all the fault of Sanchez but ....
he had a horrible game. Yes -- there were some critical drops from his receivers but his own accuracy was terrible most of the time. And, as the others pointed out, he’s lucky he only had 2 picks -- it could have easily been 4 or 5. Sanchez shouldn’t shoulder all the blame but …… he definitely deserves his share of it.
People have to catch the ball.
This was a good game to watch believe it or not. Not as a Jets fan, but as a football fan it was a defensive battle.
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Cotchery dropped a big catch in the Baltimore game too.
What happen to him?
I remember that.
"Sometimes it's the people. Any player can play defense, but not every player will play defense. Sometimes it's a lack of perseverance." - A. Johnson
by kv on Oct 31, 2010 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions
He was targeted 13 times today!??
"Sometimes it's the people. Any player can play defense, but not every player will play defense. Sometimes it's a lack of perseverance." - A. Johnson
by kv on Oct 31, 2010 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions
The WRs didn't do anything to help Mark this game.
They need to make the catch before they attempt to make plays out of them. Those two INTs were very frustrating, If they were clean picks, that’s one thing, but these were issues of the receivers not fighting hard enough to the end of the play. The offense needs to take this game as slap in the face, and wake up. The last few games have made me more and more worried with how effective our offense can be. They have all the potential in the world, but they need to act on that.
Get busy winning or get busy losing.
Those two INTs were very frustrating, If they were clean picks, that’s one thing, but these were issues of the receivers not fighting hard enough to the end of the play.
The Keller INT actually was MORE Sanchez’s fault. He locked onto Keller from the start. Woodson just released his man (Cotchery) wide open into the flat, and jumped Keller’s route to help Bishop.
"Sometimes it's the people. Any player can play defense, but not every player will play defense. Sometimes it's a lack of perseverance." - A. Johnson
by kv on Oct 31, 2010 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions
And Edwards DID make a very good catch on a dying duck to the sidelines.
In fact Edwards and Holmes were only targeted 10 times.
"Sometimes it's the people. Any player can play defense, but not every player will play defense. Sometimes it's a lack of perseverance." - A. Johnson
by kv on Oct 31, 2010 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions
If those two interceptions were correct calls, than that rule needs to be changed. Also, only giving two challenges to the coaches is unfair, because the refs screw up a dozen calls per game.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees.
by rxmeister on Oct 31, 2010 5:41 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
J-Co’s looked marginal, seemed like both players had the ball when they hit the ground, but clearly Keller lost the ball after he was down, that should have been a dead ball, Jets reception.
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If they didn't see hiim catch it (live) they could not call him down.
"Sometimes it's the people. Any player can play defense, but not every player will play defense. Sometimes it's a lack of perseverance." - A. Johnson
by kv on Oct 31, 2010 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Then they must have been staring at the Jets Flight Crew as opposed to watching the play on the field
Both were awful calls. With J-Co it was a simultaneous catch, and if both players go down with possession than the ball goes to the offensive player. Blown call on the field and a crappy loop hole in instant review failed to correct it.
As for Keller, he clearly caught the ball, was down by contact, then had it ripped right out of his lap. One of the worst calls I’ve ever seen, plain and simple.
Something tells me that the Jets will be receiving an apology from the NFL this week for these incorrect calls. Sadly, that letter offers little solace in the aftermath of our loss of the AFC east lead.
Let's hope they figure it out before next week.
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disgrace
for an offense of this SUPPOSED caliber to put together a performance like this is absolutely pathetic. ZERO points!
Top to bottom they stunk it up.
This week they better cut all the blowhard noise about how good they are. Detroit is no pushover any more and the Jets appear to need to spend just a little more time working on their craft.
I agree. Credit to the Packers too, but you can’t get shutout when you have that many weapons, unless you’ve done something seriously wrong. Poor play calling by Schotty, and horrendous execution by the players. Not being able to run against that banged up defense is unforgivable.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees.
by rxmeister on Oct 31, 2010 6:55 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
making the game less enjoyable
was Fox. am i the only one who thought the cameras were way too far away? I couldn’t see the ball or a play develop. Anyway, as bad ad the offense looked, it happens. They could go out next week and score 35 just as easily as they were shut out. Don’t start talking about how everything is wrong and needs to be redone and jumping off of ledges. Lets go Vikings!
The offense just needs to learn how to play
The defense had one of its best games
Get busy winning or get busy losing.
by GangGreenMag on Oct 31, 2010 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions
If Coleman hadn't blow coverage and released Jennings
The first FG wouldn’t even have happened.
The defense was great, though Coleman not.
"Sometimes it's the people. Any player can play defense, but not every player will play defense. Sometimes it's a lack of perseverance." - A. Johnson
by kv on Oct 31, 2010 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Good thing we released Woodhead
That offensive juggernaut we had today had no use for him.
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by rxmeister on Oct 31, 2010 6:57 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
You would want him taking carries from Greene or Tomlinson?
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No, I want him coming out of the backfield on third down.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees.
by rxmeister on Oct 31, 2010 7:10 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Came down to roster spots just tough seeing him be such a big part of the pats O.
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
I agree.
I don’t think people would be so upset if he was finding success with any other team.
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he’s only a big part of the Pats O because they have no one else.
by struckanerve9 on Nov 1, 2010 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Packer fan here
Just wanted to say good game. Good luck to you guys the rest of the season.
"No player is greater than a team."
-Vince Lombardi
It was not a good game
Ugly on both sides, but GB came out on top. Have a good season though!
by bobdolethesnapplelady on Oct 31, 2010 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I second that sentiment.
TT bashers - turning my stomach since 2005!
The glass is way more than half-full!
Excellent write up by John B
but that’s usually the case.
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
This was dreadful.
I enjoy a defensive battle now and then, but this just looked like offensive incompetence from both sides.
Jets really dropped the ball in this game.
Is it NFL time yet?
Honestly the Jets deserved to lose this game.
As a TEAM, they have not played like a 6-1 football team in the last month.
5-2 seems like a fair record for the level of the Jet play.
"Sometimes it's the people. Any player can play defense, but not every player will play defense. Sometimes it's a lack of perseverance." - A. Johnson
This i completely agree with
This team has been playing close games all year. Each one is stressful for the fans. For a team as talented as the Jets are, with all the weapons, why the hell can’t they bury anyone? Maybe they need to stick with the basics, and get rid of all the misdirection, motion, jibber jabber crap. Play some hard nosed football. Maybe Rex just needs to sit down with Schotty and punch him in the mouth, and then say…. Thats how you play football!!!
Maybe they need to stick with the basics, and get rid of all the misdirection, motion, jibber jabber crap.
Completely. Remember all the bull that Schotty came up with for the Ravens game. All crap. It went out the window the next week. But give him enough time and he’ll come up with more. Pray we don’t have a bye in the playoffs.
"Sometimes it's the people. Any player can play defense, but not every player will play defense. Sometimes it's a lack of perseverance." - A. Johnson
by kv on Oct 31, 2010 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Fake punt call
in the press conference, Rex said that was Weatherford’s call. That he;s allowed to make those choices. He also said it was probably too far, and he wouldn’t have called it.
Rex said that was Weatherford’s call. That he;s allowed to make those choices. He also said it was probably too far, and he wouldn’t have called it.
Then frankly Rex shouldn’t give Weatherford the green light.
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It happens...
this just happened to be an especially bad game, but we have detroit and cleveland next, but they shouldn’t take them lightly
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devils and stuff...
Beyond the turnovers and dropped passes, here are the 3 decisions that cost the Jets the game IMO.
1) as noted above, Weatherford having a green light from such a bad spot on the field with too much yardage to pick up
2) kicking on 4th and one into the wind, should have run it up the gut
3) the second challenge was a poor one, if it was used on the second “interception”, I think it would have been successful
by ispartan on Oct 31, 2010 10:51 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Rex sucked today, the Offense has sucked since Buffalo. More the passing game. This team needs to do some soul searching or something because playing like this will get us nowhere fast. Sloppy play will kill this team, Detroit will be a tough matchup playing like this.
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well...
the only things you can take from this game is that the defense looked good and we are still 5-2. this offense NEEDS to get BETTER fast. the lions wont be easy next week
Drop--off!
Everyone dropped the ball on the Jets. Onus is on coaching. Why can’t we run the ball? Forget the stats. We are not gounding and pounding. No way should a Jets offensive ever have more passing attempts then rushing. Next opponent is hungry and talented. One good thing is Sanchez will ge indoors—where he usually plays well. We have to make plays in this game. Pressure is on. Go Jets!
Time Off
Everyone is talking in-game stuff… what about the extra time off during the bye week? Coming out and putting up ZERO points after a bye-week is inexcusable. Especially since Green Bay had a short week after an emotion game against Favre and the Vikes.
It was Green Bay that should have looked flat and uncaring… NOT the Jets O after a Bye Week when maybe they should have continued working instead of getting that extra free time.
Stonehands
First of all, how many perfectly good passes did the receivers drop today? At least 3 by Cotchery, 1 bad one by Holmes, plus a few in traffic that the receivers need to hang on to. This is the NFL, where the receivers often have to fight for the ball. Show some damn heart! Most of the receivers looked like they were still on vacation.
Play calling
Schotty baffles me sometimes. Frankly, I think he baffles himself. I see no good reason why we couldn’t run the ball more today. Green Bay’s run defense is pathetic and all we do is throw the ball. Frickin genius Schotty, genius.
"Interceptions"
That first interception was a completely blown call by the refs. Absolutely atrocrious. How in the world is it an interception when Cotchery was laying on his back with his hands around the ball? The second one was a bit closer of a call only because Keller bobbled it. As far as Sanchez being off, he was a bit early, but his accuracy improved. All this “could have had 4 or 5 picks” is BS. You could say that about any QB on any given day. Fact is, NFL QBs have to throw into tight spaces more often than not. That’s why receivers are taught to fight for the ball.
Completely disagree on your fake punt analysis
It’s not judging the result to call it a dumb play. It’s just too many yards to pick up, and more times than not, you will fail there. They punted about 10 times, there were many other times where they didn’t need to pick up 15 freaking yards, and weren’t fairly deep in their own territory. Factor in that the punter is about 12 yards behind the line of scrimmage and you’re asking him to pick up close to 30 yards?! Come on, that’s idiotic.
Let's not overlook that fg attempt on 4th and 2
Going into the wind, that was a good time to go for it, and try to put up 7. Rex seems to wilt a lot on 4th and short this year.
Moose Johnston is exceptional but I think last weekend he did a blunder when he got to Sanchez while not looking for Braylon Edwards. As a Jets nation it was good but at the end of the day it was very defensive and not as open as it should have.
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Fake Punt
I’m glad you liked the play. I think it was a great move. Every trick isn’t going to be successful but that one was close.
In my mind a trick play is a good call when it catches the opposing side off guard. The execution might fail, but whether or not it was a good CALL can’t be based purely on the execution.

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