Frightful Offense
by John B on Oct 31, 2010 4:12 PM EDT
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Thus ends the 5 game winning streak. The Jets lost to the Packers 9-0 today at the Meadowlands to fall to 5-2. It was a game that did a lot to resemble the last time they were shut out. It was in 2006 at home against another NFC North opponent. Just like that day, the defense did a top notch job, but the offense was horrific.
There are plenty of goats in this one. The quarterback will get a lot of justified heat, but there were a lot of guys who did not come through.
Considering how out of sync this team looked, expect to hear plenty of people questioning Rex Ryan's decision to give the team the entire bye week off.
Leave your thoughts below. The official recap will be up later.
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Looks like the games we lose will be all on the O.
Darrelle Revis once won a game of Connect Four in three moves.
I REMEMBER THE STEELERS GETTING DOMINATED EARLY IN A SEASON BY THE GIANTS AND EAgles
what happened later that year, they won the super bowl. Lets play our best ball in December and January.
Schotty should be tarred and feathered.
22 total rushes is absurd. That team has no D-Line. So what do we do? Throw it on what seemed like every first down.
Yep. Should've been pounding it all day
Sucks that they wasted a fantastic effort by the D.
They couldn't pound it all day.
The problem was the poor field position. The second series was a three and out of 3 LT runs. The Jets were getting boxed in in the first half. And GB was daring the middle long throw, playing the run heavy. The Jets are not a POWER run team, they are a finesse, zone blocking run team. They have to run with at least the threat of the pass.
The fake punt was the Jet chance to get out of the field position game which they were losing. If they could just get to mid field they could start running. But from the 15 there was no way to run the ball.
"Sometimes it's the people. Any player can play defense, but not every player will play defense. Sometimes it's a lack of perseverance." - A. Johnson
by kv on Oct 31, 2010 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
True, we’re usually pretty good with field position. We couldn’t catch a break on it all day. The field position game was very crucial for our offense.
Completely. It is what kept us from being able to run the ball.
"Sometimes it's the people. Any player can play defense, but not every player will play defense. Sometimes it's a lack of perseverance." - A. Johnson
by kv on Oct 31, 2010 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Tim Masthay
i never really wanted Tim Masthay to win the battle for our punting job.
I favored the Aussie, Chris Bryan (who signed with Tampa Bay as soon as we released him) and said so all summer.
Just last week, Brandon, the manager of APC, flat out said, “Tim Masthay stinks!”
That said, Masthay was our man of the hour yesterday, and gets my game ball.
Five of his eight punts ended up inside the 20.
That included his first four, which averaged 47 yards, and left the Jets starting at, respectively, the 18, 14, 13 and 10.
For now, Masthay has earned himself a respite from my criticism.
TT bashers - turning my stomach since 2005!
The glass is way more than half-full!
What the hell are you talking about we're not a power running team?
When your defense is playing lights out, and your QB can’t hit the side of a barn, you go back to the old familiar and wear their asses out. You stop with all the run/pass balance on first down BS and you run, run, run punt for a few series. Its was shameful for Greene to only have 6 carries in this game.
Schotty coaches to the stats. He tries balances his calls instead of finding some thing that works and making them stop it. When you’re not running smooth, you go to your bread and butter: the run. Let the big dog piss in the yard. You don’t bail out a thin D-Line by calling passes on first down.
And why do we have to go for 20 yards on every 3rd down???
I agree in the sense that LT is the primary back. LT vs. SG is finesse vs. power in my opinion and we’ve been going primarily with finesse. Definite shame that we’re not using Greene much. I hope this strategy will work out as well as it did last year…
We are not a power running team. You may wish we were, but we are not.
If you pull the safeties up, we are NOT going to run the ball.
"Sometimes it's the people. Any player can play defense, but not every player will play defense. Sometimes it's a lack of perseverance." - A. Johnson
by kv on Oct 31, 2010 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I completely disagree. I think if we slammed in there enough times they would’ve wilted. We did it all last year. Its the exact same personnel that seem to be as capable as before.
+1
Although it’s not the exact same personnel, that is what we should be doing. Especially because I don’t like Sanchez throwing so much, he’s not there yet.
He should have been throwing middle deep.
"Sometimes it's the people. Any player can play defense, but not every player will play defense. Sometimes it's a lack of perseverance." - A. Johnson
by kv on Oct 31, 2010 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Deep passes down the middle from Sanchez?
That’s just another way of saying “interception”.
by nationalist88 on Oct 31, 2010 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Not the way the defense was alined.
How many seam INTs does Sanchez have?
Play action pass and it would have been there all day.
"Sometimes it's the people. Any player can play defense, but not every player will play defense. Sometimes it's a lack of perseverance." - A. Johnson
by kv on Nov 1, 2010 2:00 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Wilted????
They had the safeties right up in there. They were not wilting.
We would have had three and out, three and out, three and out, losing field position every time.
"Sometimes it's the people. Any player can play defense, but not every player will play defense. Sometimes it's a lack of perseverance." - A. Johnson
by kv on Oct 31, 2010 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yes, and in the second half they would have been gasping for air (just like last year) mostly because they had no one to rotate in and we would have starting pounding them to death.
I think you are fantacizing.
But we cannot argue about something that didn’t happen.
The Jets have not been able to play that way all year except against the Bills who are nobody.
"Sometimes it's the people. Any player can play defense, but not every player will play defense. Sometimes it's a lack of perseverance." - A. Johnson
by kv on Oct 31, 2010 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Nor have they tried. Luckily Sanchez has played well enough to win in all but 2 games. But he didn’t have it today, and running heavily should’ve been the strategy from the outset because their D-Line had no depth. They were overplaying the run early in hopes that we would go away from it. They are ecstatic that we obliged.
If they haven't tried you can claim that it is something they can definitely DO.
The spent a lot of money bringing in receivers. They have 3 dynamic playmakers.
"Sometimes it's the people. Any player can play defense, but not every player will play defense. Sometimes it's a lack of perseverance." - A. Johnson
by kv on Oct 31, 2010 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions
can't claim
"Sometimes it's the people. Any player can play defense, but not every player will play defense. Sometimes it's a lack of perseverance." - A. Johnson
by kv on Oct 31, 2010 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions
If they had better field position it would have worked, but they
were starting on their 13
"Sometimes it's the people. Any player can play defense, but not every player will play defense. Sometimes it's a lack of perseverance." - A. Johnson
by kv on Oct 31, 2010 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
When your defense is playing lights out, and your QB can’t hit the side of a barn, you go back to the old familiar and wear their asses out. You stop with all the run/pass balance on first down BS and you run, run, run punt for a few series.
CB, I think you are confused in believing that this is a power running game. They were losing the field position game and COULD NOT RUN the ball. GB stacked against the run.
The problem with Schotty is that he would not throw to where the field was open, in the middle, mid-deep.
"Sometimes it's the people. Any player can play defense, but not every player will play defense. Sometimes it's a lack of perseverance." - A. Johnson
by kv on Oct 31, 2010 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think ou avoid those throws as much as possible with a young QB. When you have a big back and an o-line that you know can wear an opponent out if given the oppotunity, this was the perfect game to go with that plan.
we don't have that kind of O Line.
We only run the ball well where the pass is threatened.
"Sometimes it's the people. Any player can play defense, but not every player will play defense. Sometimes it's a lack of perseverance." - A. Johnson
by kv on Oct 31, 2010 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Its not been the case al year.
"Sometimes it's the people. Any player can play defense, but not every player will play defense. Sometimes it's a lack of perseverance." - A. Johnson
by kv on Oct 31, 2010 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions
We have Keller, Holmes and Edwards.
"Sometimes it's the people. Any player can play defense, but not every player will play defense. Sometimes it's a lack of perseverance." - A. Johnson
by kv on Oct 31, 2010 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions
you have to trust him to throw a mid deep ball.
If you don’t throw the ball mid deep they can just creep up in the box. All kinds of good things happen with the middle throw. PI included.
"Sometimes it's the people. Any player can play defense, but not every player will play defense. Sometimes it's a lack of perseverance." - A. Johnson
by kv on Oct 31, 2010 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions
He throws the seam route much better than the screen pass.
"Sometimes it's the people. Any player can play defense, but not every player will play defense. Sometimes it's a lack of perseverance." - A. Johnson
by kv on Oct 31, 2010 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I like the guy, but I don’t want him throwing as much as he has lately. He’s not consistently there yet.
He didn't have to throw a lot
He just had to throw a bit when we were in poor field position. You had to make that defense move back. You have to adjust to how you are being played.
But now that this has worked (again) we are going to be seeing it all season, so we will see.
"Sometimes it's the people. Any player can play defense, but not every player will play defense. Sometimes it's a lack of perseverance." - A. Johnson
by kv on Oct 31, 2010 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Huh?
We were averaging close to 160 per game. With a 4.9 yard average per run. How can you say we haven’t had a line to run the ball all year?
Not with a power running game that doesn't pass.
I didn’t say that we don’t have a line to run. I said we don’t have a Power Running game, one that can just forget the pass and run it into the ground.
"Sometimes it's the people. Any player can play defense, but not every player will play defense. Sometimes it's a lack of perseverance." - A. Johnson
by kv on Oct 31, 2010 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions
And we didn't need to there.
there are many games would could have used sustained run oriented drives in. In fact almost all of them.
"Sometimes it's the people. Any player can play defense, but not every player will play defense. Sometimes it's a lack of perseverance." - A. Johnson
by kv on Oct 31, 2010 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions
It was said on one of those networks, OC's be calling plays to get a head coaching oportuinty
So hence the reason for so many pass plays; the run don’t get you hired.
Seriously.
Who cares if they stack the box? It was stacked all last season too. We should be strong enough to take what we want instead of trying to take what they give us.
We do not have the same running game as last year. We are not a Power Run team yet. The second series was three LT runs, three and out.
"Sometimes it's the people. Any player can play defense, but not every player will play defense. Sometimes it's a lack of perseverance." - A. Johnson
by kv on Oct 31, 2010 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions
So what? We did that for entire halfs last year. This was exactly the game to go back to that mentality. And to stop with the cutsy runs. Just line up in a power formation and smash it up in there 5-6 times in a row.
We had one of the best run experienced blockers last year, Faneca.
"Sometimes it's the people. Any player can play defense, but not every player will play defense. Sometimes it's a lack of perseverance." - A. Johnson
by kv on Oct 31, 2010 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions
You are in comic book land.
This team does not blow other teams off the ball. Just look at the run calls. The line opens specific holes, it does not get a push most of the time.
"Sometimes it's the people. Any player can play defense, but not every player will play defense. Sometimes it's a lack of perseverance." - A. Johnson
by kv on Oct 31, 2010 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions
You can’t be serious. Greene had 6 carries!!! And the run calls were quirky for the most part. They would get push if they kept at it. The same thing happened last year: we would have much less success in the first half, then we would crack off big gains in the second.
But now Schotty is going to be balanced come hell or high water. Instead of exploiting an obvious weakness (defensive line depth), he’s going to be the opposite of obvious at all costs.
I say, “F that.” Do what you are good at doing and make your opponent adjust.
HOLY COW!!!!
WTF WAS THAT!!!!! We need a TD, and we give up our 1st down play.
I thought they were avoiding a challenge there. DIdn’t bother me all that much, although i though we should have at least went with a quick running play.
They should
have people upstairs watching the play on Fox. He was a good 2 yards behind the line of scrimmage when he threw that ball. I would expect our OC to ask a question to the booth before going…. QB SNEAK, QB SNEAK!!!!
These were all the early runs. Tons on first down. almost none of them worth anything.
1st and 10 at NYJ 18 L.Tomlinson left guard to NYJ 23 for 5 yards (F.Zombo).
1st and 10 at NYJ 14 L.Tomlinson left guard to NYJ 18 for 4 yards (C.Peprah, F.Zombo).
2nd and 6 at NYJ 18 L.Tomlinson right end to NYJ 20 for 2 yards (B.Raji, N.Collins).
3rd and 4 at NYJ 20 L.Tomlinson right end to NYJ 20 for no gain (C.Matthews, C.Jenkins). Penalty on NYJ-B.Edwards, Offensive Holding, declined.
2nd and 10 at NYJ 28 S.Greene right tackle to NYJ 29 for 1 yard (E.Walden).
1st and 10 at NYJ 30 L.Tomlinson left tackle to NYJ 33 for 3 yards (C.Woodson).
1st and 15 at NYJ 41 L.Tomlinson left tackle to NYJ 46 for 5 yards (A.Hawk, T.Williams).
1st and 10 at GB 36 B.Smith right tackle to GB 33 for 3 yards (S.Shields).
2nd and 7 at GB 33 Direct snap to B.Smith. B.Smith left end to GB 29 for 4 yards (F.Zombo). FUMBLES (F.Zombo), RECOVERED by GB-T.Williams at GB 29.
"Sometimes it's the people. Any player can play defense, but not every player will play defense. Sometimes it's a lack of perseverance." - A. Johnson
by kv on Oct 31, 2010 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions
After these busts
(holding calls, fumbles in the run game)
Schotty went to the short pass game, which is what GB was waiting for.
"Sometimes it's the people. Any player can play defense, but not every player will play defense. Sometimes it's a lack of perseverance." - A. Johnson
by kv on Oct 31, 2010 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions
We didn't have the field position to do that. We were losing the FP game.
They tried to change that with the fake punt, but it didn’t happen. You can’t just do three and outs from the 12, going backwards. They were going backwards.
"Sometimes it's the people. Any player can play defense, but not every player will play defense. Sometimes it's a lack of perseverance." - A. Johnson
by kv on Oct 31, 2010 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions
The starting field position for the series of the 1st half
18
14
13
30 (fumble)
10
22
35
"Sometimes it's the people. Any player can play defense, but not every player will play defense. Sometimes it's a lack of perseverance." - A. Johnson
by kv on Oct 31, 2010 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions
That doesn't matter at all...
if they were scoring on us it might have, but they had 3 points that we gave to them. They needed to keep running Greene, he would have wore them out. Thjat may not be who we’ve been this year but that was who we were last year, and the only player missing is Faneca (Greene was better than TJ).
Its what ifs.
you are saying:
1). If they are stacking the box and jumping on the short passing game keep running, and running and running until they get tired.
I am saying:
2). If they are stacking the box and jumping on the short passing game make them pay middle deep which is what the defense is giving you, then run the ball when you have better field position.
Schotty said:
3). If they are stacking the box and jumping on the short passing game resort to trick plays and keep throwing short.
I like your plan better than his, but not as good as mine.
"Sometimes it's the people. Any player can play defense, but not every player will play defense. Sometimes it's a lack of perseverance." - A. Johnson
by kv on Oct 31, 2010 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
It's not all bad.
Our D is back. They looked SO good. I know we’re gonna catch hell for the fake punt but I loved the call. Sad to lose this one but we’ll see. We just need both sides of the ball to show up next game.
by cult hero on Oct 31, 2010 4:26 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Both sides showing up.
That’s a problem we’ve had pretty consistently. I’m confident we can do that with Detroit coming up though. Sanchez can ball against the really shoddy defenses.
Not much of a test for the D
starting WR,RB, and TE all out .
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Not after this week
Especially since they just won and are doing well.
by bobdolethesnapplelady on Oct 31, 2010 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Detroit a nice team.
similar to GB . no run game 65% – 70 % pass.
Ndamukong Suh is sick 6.5 sacks 7 games in for a DT is crazy ..
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Seriously I agree with wanting to take Schotty head off, but this game is on the wide receivers
I made this point about a couple weeks ago, if the Jets wide receivers are so good, why aren’t they making Mark Sanchez a better QB. I know the Jets got hose for two calls when GB took the ball from their wide receivers. Bad calls, but WTF is the receivers doing not coming down with those passes. The Receivers loss this game.
+10000
The receivers were terrible. Schotty is horrible at calling a game in which he has to get the defense to move. He doesn’t seem to understand how to take advantage of the scheme a D is running. Our receivers were terrible today. Sanchez was 16 for 38 with 6 drops, and 2 Int’s that also should have been caught. The Holmes drop was horrible. The entire D was moving to the other side, and he had 2 steps on the defender. The ball was waiste high, and he had an easy catch, and BLAM!!!! he dropped it.
its not on the receivers. They didn’t play well, but they weren’t in the game for 3 quarters. You can’t play not to lose for 3 quarters and then expect to play to win.
"Sometimes it's the people. Any player can play defense, but not every player will play defense. Sometimes it's a lack of perseverance." - A. Johnson
by kv on Oct 31, 2010 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not sure
If we were watching the same game. The drops killed us. It started with Shonne Greene’s dropped screen when he had blockers, and nothing but a corner and safety to beat. Then Holmes drops a probable TD, then we drop multiple 3rd down completions, then our receivers drop 2 more balls into the lap of defenders for turnovers. I’m really not sure how you can say it’s not on the receivers without joking.
My first reaction
COME ON LT!!! YOU’VE GOT TO CATCH THAT!!!! Then i see 23, and all i think is WTF!!!! Why isn’t the RB with the great hands in on that play? Then it hits me… SCHOTTY!!!!!!
Greene is not a hands guy. Its about play calling.
"Sometimes it's the people. Any player can play defense, but not every player will play defense. Sometimes it's a lack of perseverance." - A. Johnson
by kv on Oct 31, 2010 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions
If we were watching the same game. The drops killed us.
it was about game plan. The drops killed us, but they LARGELY came late in the game when we already had burned through three quarters with horrible play calling. Many of the early “drops” were actually very inaccurate throws by Sanchez in the short game.
The way that they game was called was such that they were throwing into the teeth of the defense with short routes, with Sanchez never throwing the ball with accuracy. To expect to win the game late, it doesn’t surprise me that drops happened. There was ZERO rhythm to this offense, and it affected everyone. Nobody was in sync, and this was the game plan’s fault.
Yes, if the receivers had caught the ball it would have been a different story. But it should have been a COMPLETELY different story.
"Sometimes it's the people. Any player can play defense, but not every player will play defense. Sometimes it's a lack of perseverance." - A. Johnson
by kv on Oct 31, 2010 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions
13 carries already
It’s crazy that a team with a great RB has an OC calling the run.
It is wrong to think that this game was about dropped passes and a bad INT call.
It was about GB knowing that the Jets were going to game plan the run and short pass, and completely stacking the box and jumping all the routes. And believing that if they left the middle of the field open to the pass the Jets would not throw it. It was a calculation and it wasn’t until the 4th quarter that the Jets finally decided to take what the defense was giving them.
It was then that dropped passes made a difference, but it should never have come into that. They should have forced GB to back their safeties off, and they would have been able to run the ball.
It was the same plan that the Ravens had, and the Jets, as usual, are VERY slow at adjusting to what is being done on offense. Instead of adjusting and taking what the defense is giving, Schotty throws in trick plays to try to out hustle the hustle, trick plays that don’t have a high percentage of completion. He is TOO into his chess game.
Just throw the ball middle, not short, and when you get some field position run the ball hard.
"Sometimes it's the people. Any player can play defense, but not every player will play defense. Sometimes it's a lack of perseverance." - A. Johnson
I agree with the dumb ass trick play calls. Terrible. And how it always takes an hour for us to snap it? Why can’t we quicken the pace every now and again?
yes. Rhythm is important. Same thing in the Ravens game.
"Sometimes it's the people. Any player can play defense, but not every player will play defense. Sometimes it's a lack of perseverance." - A. Johnson
by kv on Oct 31, 2010 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions
the drops were killing us all game, and would have set the end game up differently. schotty did sort of fail on the play-calling, but the screens were finally there, so the future is brighter as long as we throw them, to LT or Greene learns to catch. sanchez missed some reads and threw some inaccurate balls, as usual, so he gets a piece of the blame too.
great looking D though. maybe for the first time all year (except against the sad bills).
Sanchez cannot throw a screen pass.
"Sometimes it's the people. Any player can play defense, but not every player will play defense. Sometimes it's a lack of perseverance." - A. Johnson
by kv on Oct 31, 2010 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions
You would think that would have been one of the things on the checklist during the bye-week. That was frustrating.
He simply cannot throw it. Maybe he has big hands or something. But it is not an effective play call. And its too bad because LT is an excellent screen receiver.
"Sometimes it's the people. Any player can play defense, but not every player will play defense. Sometimes it's a lack of perseverance." - A. Johnson
by kv on Oct 31, 2010 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions
The deep ball was there for them all game
but they never wanted to try it. Only that one time to cotch. They had a freaking linebacker on Cotch there.
All game.
Not the deep sideline ball, but the deep seam and cross, just behind the safeties who were up.
By the time they went to it, it was already too late. They should have done it in the first Q.
"Sometimes it's the people. Any player can play defense, but not every player will play defense. Sometimes it's a lack of perseverance." - A. Johnson
by kv on Oct 31, 2010 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions
i am now a vikings fan for the next 60 minutes
by servantofchrist on Oct 31, 2010 4:46 PM EDT reply actions
Pretty disgusting performance
When you combine 6 drops with a lot of inaccurate throws, and not much of a run game, this is what happens. Some thoughts:
1) A little too much wildcat. It wasn’t doing much, why keep going to it? And, how about letting Smith throw one again if you do?
2) Going for the fg into the wind on 4th and 2 was a pussy move by Rex. You’re a running team, run it down their throats.
3) If you want to do a fake punt, how about waiting for a 4th down where you have to gain less than 15 yards and you are around mid field instead of at your own 15? It was more of a stupid move than a gutsy one.
Also, not sure how Sanchez spent his off week
They said on the broadcast he was home and in bed every night at 9:30 p.m.? I have a friend who lives in Vegas that claims he is positive Sanchez was partying for several nights there on the bye. Not that he shouldn’t unwind, I would do the same, but he looked very bad today, left a lot of open receivers out there. It wasn’t just drops.
I'm not so sure
I didn’t think he looked bad at all. He did miss Edwards on that roll out pass. (Which by the way, seems to always be open, and gains great yards when the roll out pass is called). But damn, the drops killed us. We had 8 dropped balls (6 drops, and 2 int’s that won’t be included in the drops stat but definitely were).
Two years in a row
Two years in a row off the bye Rex has given them a full six days off heading into the bye. Two years in a row, two lifeless Jets defeats. Maybe this team isn’t mature enough, or lacks the leadership, or SOMETHING to handle that. Bottom line, I’ll bet Rex works them a little harder next year.
Terrible playcalling. Bad execution. Just a terrible offensive performance by all involved.
Defense was good, at least.
"(BARF)" - Donovan McNabb, during his game winning drive against Virginia Tech in 1998
A lot of his throws were sailing high
all day. Everyone on offense played poorly though.
mutual possession
i was in a sports bar and didn’t have any sound. how were those two interceptions called interceptions they both looked like textbook mutual possession. the first was challenged and upheld, but i have no idea how. can anyone fill me in on what they were rulling?
by Crimetime Island on Oct 31, 2010 5:10 PM EDT reply actions
Strange...
How this year has been so fortuitous 4 Sanchez with missed int. opportunitys by the D that this game its 2 of his better throws that get picked.
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
tough loss for you Jets fans...but your team is probably still in good posistion to at least make the playoffs and still has a good shot at the division
Curtis Granderson.
***FREE FreeBradshaw***
Oh believe me, we’ll be lying to ourselves until the bitter end, or at least until New England officially wins the division.
Again.
by nationalist88 on Oct 31, 2010 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions
You're the kind of Jets fan I can't stand.
They lose one game and you throw in the towel and start crying the dreaded “Same Old…” I can’t even write it, the term disgusts me so much. It’s not the end of the damn world! A lot of players on offense (defense was stout as usual) made too many mistakes. Get ’em fixed and move on.
by struckanerve9 on Nov 1, 2010 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Also, for those who don't think the Sanchez was the problem here
(aside from the play calling), recall that Sanchez compared his responsibilities to that of a point guard with lots of weapons. As a point guard it is his job to orchestrate the offense, to put it in rhythm, and this is done with timing and precision of passing. One point guard could pass a very catchable pass that does not result in a hoop, but a better one puts the ball right were it should be and the hoop is easy.
When everyone is dropping passes (both on the court and on the field), then you look to the point guard.
Schotty paralyzed the offense which his “chart” play calling, to be sure, and the play calling took the rhythm out of the offense, but Sanchez himself was all over the place such that when it came time to make a play and decide the game nobody, not the receivers, not the running backs, and not the QB could pull it together.
It is the job of the QB to change that, to set a new tempo, and to do so with the right reads and precise throws.
"Sometimes it's the people. Any player can play defense, but not every player will play defense. Sometimes it's a lack of perseverance." - A. Johnson
I feel bad for the guy, because he tries to be a student of the game, and seems so dedicated to getting better. But for whatever reason, it’s not happening. The last drive when we got the ball back with no timeouts and almost 4 minutes left, he couldn’t manage a freakin first down, much less a game winning drive. Pathetic.
Like Howie Long said, Rex Ryan has high aspirations for this team, but the Jets will only go as far as Mark Sanchez can take them. Today was another great example of what happens when he’s tasked with winning a game – it becomes a loss. There are a lot of Jets fans who insist on kidding themselves about Sanchez. I am not one of them.
by nationalist88 on Oct 31, 2010 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Then last 4 mintues was telling. He locked onto Cotchery
and nothing else, pretty much.
He is a student of the game, and I believe long term, but this year is a crapshoot.
"Sometimes it's the people. Any player can play defense, but not every player will play defense. Sometimes it's a lack of perseverance." - A. Johnson
by kv on Nov 1, 2010 2:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Um…maybe if freakin Cotchery would hold on to a pass he would have. He dropped TWO IN A ROW that would’ve been first downs! Don’t blame Sanchez for dropped passes. He can’t throw AND catch it.
by struckanerve9 on Nov 1, 2010 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Hey Moron!
You mean the same Sanchez who won us the game in Denver in the last drive?
The Same Sanchez who torched the NE D, the same Sanchez that won us that Miami game!
Give your head a shake you idiot! and actually watch the games. Sanchez did try but 8 drops aint gonna help, the wasnt effective since they had 8-9 in the box.
Bottom Line.
Playcalling was atrocious. Why Rex tried a fg on 4th and 1 is beyond me. Talk about going conservative…
Because it would’ve tied the game. Why wouldn’t you try a FG?
by struckanerve9 on Nov 1, 2010 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions
B-Schot for Predient: Then maybe he'll leave
Dropped passes, poor blocking and an all too inconsistent QB no doubt killed this team. But Rex, and particularly B-Schott, seem to have to learn the game-within-the-game every damn week, and the simple act of coaching. Too much time off during a Bye-Week it too easy an excuse, for if they came in three or four times, the coaching would still kill this team.
If Ryan is to survive as the coach of the NY Jets, he’s going to need a new Offensive Coordinator that can adjust to the changing dynamics of a game. In it’s lost in last years AFC championships, B-Schott couldn’t defend against an attacking linebacker corp, nor attack a vanilla cover-two defense. This team went from screening its’ way into third down futility under Edwards/Mangini, into the 50-98% Offensive stalling that occurs every game. All three regimes OC’d by Brian Schottenheimer
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