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Jets 38 Bills 14: New York Drills the Bills

The Jets are 3-1 after today's resounding 38-14 victory over the Bills today in Orchard Park. Gang Green is also 3-0 against the AFC East with a head to head victory over all three division rivals. Banking these early could mean big things at the conclusion of the regular season. There was concern the Jets would overlook the Bills. Those fears ended up being unfounded. This one was pretty much over once the ball was kicked.

More after the jump.

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The Good:

LaDainian Tomlinson: The fact he got the start today speaks volumes as to how well he is playing. He was supposed to be the guy to spell the new elite back, Shonn Greene. The roles are reversed. LT has regained his Pro Bowl form. He has recovered his burst and is cutting on a dime. He had an ungodly average of 7.0 yards per carry today, running for 133 yards on 19 carries with 2 touchdowns. His offensive line opened up huge holes, but Tomlinson is finding them, hitting them, and beating guys on the second and third levels. It looked like he was playing at a different speed from everybody else.

Nick Mangold: He was consistently getting a push by himself when matched up against Kyle Williams, a pretty good player. When the center is winning the battle against the nose in the 3-4 by himself, it is easy to run the ball.

Damien Woody and Brandon Moore: The Jets were running behind them all day long. Let's add to that remark on Mangold. When a team is consistently sealing the nose and the end on the side where it is running the ball with two offensive linemen (and allowing the third to hit the second level), it is easy to run the ball.

Tony Richardson: He threw some fantastic blocks to spring some of Tomlinson's big runs.

Shonn Greene: He was excellent in that role I mentioned spelling the elite back. He had his first 100 yard game of the season, netting 117 on 22 carries.

Mark Sanchez: The accuracy still leaves something to be desired, but Sanchez had another effective game. He hit 14 of 24 for 161 yards, and 2 touchdowns. He's making throws a lot of quarterbacks are not capable of making. More importantly, he's protecting the football.  The pump fake that froze Leodis McKelvin shows that he is developing a real command of how to beat defenses in the NFL.

Pass Protection: I named some of the linemen individually above, but let me compliment them as a unit. The Bills have no good pass rushers and a vanilla scheme. These guys still should get praise for doing what they should have done, keep Sanchez clean for a second consecutive week.

Braylon Edwards: Braylon had another big game. His line was 4 catches, 86 yards, and 1 touchdown. A year ago, he might have dropped the 41 yard touchdown grab when Sanchez's pump fake left him all alone. He also made a great play early in the game breaking up an interception and drew a penalty. Dustin Keller seems to be Sanchez's first look, but he's showing that he trust Braylon. He's throwing it up even when Edwards is covered and expecting him to make a play. It's easy to see why. Edwards is playing great football.

Dustin Keller: Even though Keller didn't make the same impact he did against New England and Miami, he was heard from in the red zone. The first of his 2 touchdowns was an excellent display of athleticism and of why he's such a great weapon to have at that spot on the field. He also did good work as a run blocker. He has improved by leaps and bounds this year in that department.

Brad Smith: How many guys throw a touchdown pass, return a kick 38 yards, and play on coverage teams in the same day? How can you not love this guy?

Antonio Cromartie: Lee Evans had 1 catch for 6 yards. Cromartie shadowed him all game and gave him next to nothing. There were a few balls Evans could have caught, but Cromartie was in good coverage. I only saw Evans get a step on him once.

The Way the Jets Used Cromartie: From what I saw, the Jets did not use as much variety in the way they used Cromartie than they did last week against Brandon Marshall. Cromartie was used a ton against Evans in press coverage. That's the best way to use him. He struggles doing anything else. This is the way to utilize his strength, size, and athleticism.

Drew Coleman: I'm not sure I've ever used this space to praise Coleman like this, but I thought he was terrific in coverage. The competition was not very good, but we would all be on him had he struggled. Drew played well.

Jim Leonhard on Defense: He was good in coverage and as a blitzer.

Bryan Thomas: Thomas forced a fumble and was frequently winning his matchups and getting himself to the football.

David Harris: He led the team with 6 tackles, and these were not easy tackles. He operated well in traffic.

Dwight Lowery: He registered a sack, didn't allow anything big in coverage, and was sure handed as a tackler. The Jets kept things in front of him today. It's where Dwight does his best work.

Shaun Ellis: Ellis was active and recorded a sack.

The Bad:

Nick Folk: It's a good thing he was perfect from inside 60 entering this game, or that miss from 30 yards would have be very worried.

Kyle Wilson: I hate to keep getting on the guy, because I think he is going to get a ton better once he gets experience. I also think the Jets are putting him in a very difficult spot at times. There's no denying, though, that Kyle is struggling out there. He was solid early, but the touchdown that came on him displayed the things he's struggling with, playing tentatively when he doesn't have help and not looking for the ball.

Jim Leonhard as a Punt Returner: The numbers might not indicate it, but I think the Jets should find a new returner. Wilson would make sense. Jim doesn't have great speed. He doesn't have experience reading blocks. He doesn't have the agility to make people miss. He's also valuable on the defense. I don't like having him handling the ball and taking hits if it's not helping the team.

 

The Jets did what they needed to do. What did we learn about this team today? We learned Gang Green has maturity. Yes, the opponent was one of the worst in the NFL, but the Jets dispatched them handily. You have to feel good about this. And Darrelle Revis, Calvin Pace, and Santonio Holmes are coming.

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The bad should read like this:

Wilson.

Schottenheimer Jr.

I’ll give Folk a pass.

by Bro Namath on Oct 3, 2010 5:01 PM EDT reply actions  

It is hard to put a lot of blame on Wilson

In an Ideal world, I would have all ten fingers on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching.

by BL3ACH on Oct 3, 2010 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually thought Schotty called a pretty good game. Kept them off balance with good first down passes and he rode the running game, which was absolutely dominant.

by Crackback on Oct 3, 2010 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

explain to me how schotty was bad. they ey were pretty much unstoppable on offense. we also all knew folk would eventually miss one, just glad it was in meaningless gm like this

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by dabu7 on Oct 3, 2010 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

+100

Schotty called a great game

by Judgegavel on Oct 3, 2010 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

WTF?

Who does Schottenheimer have to blow to get some respect around here. We’re tied for first place in points right and our offense is looking great. His use of Brad Smith continues to impress me.

I wish we’d go for it a bit more on 4th down, but I’m okay with being a bit more conservative until Revis and Pace are back. Seriously though… 38 points and you want to put the OC in the negative?

Folk does deserve a pass. If you’re gonna blow a field goal, this is the game to do it in.

by cult hero on Oct 3, 2010 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

+1

Can’t stand all the passing near the goal line (1st and G inside the five means you hand off ‘till you score, IMO) but that’s honestly nitpicking an offense that’s averaging over 25 ppg, on a team that’s supposed to be all about defense. If Schotty keeps them playing like this, he won’t be on our sideline next year for us to bitch about him anyway…

by nationalist88 on Oct 3, 2010 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just don't get it.

I was all over him on the first game. I thought the play calling sucked. That had a lot to do with the game hype and over-thinking it.

Since then, I have been really happy with his play calling. I think he mixes it up well and I like the occasional interesting run play that’s called on third and long. I can’t emphasize enough how much I like mixing in Brad Smith for passing now and then. It’s really cool. I also like that he’s not afraid to come out on a first down and fire a bomb now and then.

Like I said, I’m a big fan of going for it a little more on forth and I love the occasional fake punt. Also, with a defense like ours, I’d like to see an onside kick now and then too. That’s the kind of crazy offense I love. So, obviously I’d like to see more of that, but that’s really a matter of taste. You can’t argue with the results thus far… and we haven’t been playing cupcakes either. Even today, it’s a divisional rival at their home. Compared to Miami and New England, we fared much better against this team. They are capable of fighting and we stuck it to them.

I enjoy the pass/run mix and the occasional bit of trickery. This offense has been fun to watch aside from the first game. Give the guy some credit. Just because you might not prefer the flavor (and sometimes, offensive philosophy is just that: flavor) doesn’t mean the play calling sucks.

by cult hero on Oct 3, 2010 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

As long as his name is Brian Schottenheimer

There will be fans that will complain about everything he does even when we win cause they’ve been doing it for so long it’s just a part of them like Mini-Mike Francesa’s lol

by JetsFan718 on Oct 3, 2010 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agree

The Jets had the ball over 40 minutes in this game for crying out loud!

Kudos to Schotty also for finally allowing Brad Smith to pass out of the Seminole. The pass has to be viable out of this formation for it to be a true option play. Otherwise, good teams just seal the corners and smother it.

by Black Dog Jet on Oct 3, 2010 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good first point.

Great second one.

by nationalist88 on Oct 3, 2010 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was all over shotty in week one

And I would be one of the first guys to give him a hard time again if the situation warranted me to. Thats just not the case. Shotty called a great game today.

by colinyoung on Oct 3, 2010 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think you said it

Wilson should not be put in bad spots like the coaching staff have put him in so far this year.

In an Ideal world, I would have all ten fingers on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching.

by BL3ACH on Oct 3, 2010 5:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Leonhard on PR

I think this is good in a conservative way. They can trust him not to fumble, make the fair catch when needed and let it go inside the ten. Once Revis is healthy, I think we’ll see Kyle returning more than Jim though.

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by dvdvil on Oct 3, 2010 5:11 PM EDT reply actions  

2 quick questions for someone who watched the game intensively as i was grilling and popping beers while the game was going on.

1. how did trevor pryce play? i assume he only a few downs worth of play but how did he do?
1. gholston? same…im still hoping for him to prove us all wrong……..

by ThomasU on Oct 3, 2010 5:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Pryce looked good imo
I am to the point with Vern where if he could help the team I am happy, we can cry about him not looking like a top draft pick but I don’t see what good that does. I really think the ship has sailed on him proving us all wrong though.

In an Ideal world, I would have all ten fingers on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching.

by BL3ACH on Oct 3, 2010 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I didn't see Pryce in much.

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by kv on Oct 3, 2010 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Anyone watching the Eagles game?

Kolb is in again, was Vick terrible or hurt?

In an Ideal world, I would have all ten fingers on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching.

by BL3ACH on Oct 3, 2010 5:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Rib injury.

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by dvdvil on Oct 3, 2010 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

o

In an Ideal world, I would have all ten fingers on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching.

by BL3ACH on Oct 3, 2010 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

He got hurt after a 31 yard run. He was sandwich between two redskin tacklers

The bad thing about it was he left the ball at the one yard line, but the play was called back because of a holding call.

by BIG OH!!!!! on Oct 3, 2010 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh that sucks, bad.

In an Ideal world, I would have all ten fingers on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching.

by BL3ACH on Oct 3, 2010 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Didn’t watch this game so far but other weeks it looked like he was taking a lot of contact he maybe could of avoided.

In an Ideal world, I would have all ten fingers on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching.

by BL3ACH on Oct 3, 2010 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

ehhh, Hard to avoid when your one yard from the endzone and get sandwhiched by two players.

When will the hurting stop?
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by Mark D on Oct 3, 2010 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

O yeah

I was not talking about that play, just overall maybe it added up ?

In an Ideal world, I would have all ten fingers on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching.

by BL3ACH on Oct 3, 2010 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Definitely, they were trying to get him to take less hits.

When will the hurting stop?
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by Mark D on Oct 4, 2010 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

BTW

Sorry to hear about Streit and Okposo, Islanders or not Streit is one of my favorite dmen in the league.

In an Ideal world, I would have all ten fingers on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching.

by BL3ACH on Oct 4, 2010 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hate Leonard as a punt returner, except when...

they are trying to pin us deep within our own territory. I like his sure hands in that spot. But Wilson hasn’t impressed at all either returning punts. Maybe we should go back to McKnight to see if he can give us some pop back there.

by Crackback on Oct 3, 2010 5:56 PM EDT reply actions  

+1

give mcknight a chance except when theyre pinning us deep where we need hands. if youre gonna have him on active roster at least let him show what he can do. also let wilson just focus on his defensive responsibilities. he has more than enough stuff flying through his head at this pt

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by dabu7 on Oct 3, 2010 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Im getting frustrated with this Wilson thing

He’s a rookie. The coaching staff is putting him up against top WR’s every week with little to no help behind him. I mean, unless we are expecting him to win these match-ups on a regular, how are we counting him as a bad? I don’t hear people talking about his development. What he’s doing well. Where he’s improving. No posts about our first round pick and how he’s adjusting to the NFL and the immense pressure he has on him to perform on this defense without Revis. Only the “bad”. With all due respect, I would like to see the fanbase support this guy a lil more.

by colinyoung on Oct 3, 2010 6:00 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

agree 100%

that being said we dont need him returning kicks now as well. let him adjust defensively before putting more on his plate

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by dabu7 on Oct 3, 2010 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s not a lack of support, just calling out a guy who isn’t playing well. Hopefully there is development or improvement but can’t say I’ve watched him on every play to make that judgement. What he has shown when isolated on the intended receiver isn’t always pretty. And when he got burned on the second TD pass from Fitz, it was rather ghastly. He was beat by 2 yards, but it looked like 5 because the guy’s so short. He seems incapable of finding the ball in the air, never gets his head around to make a play on it and always seems to be a step behind in coverage. If you see something I’m missing, aside from excuses based on being a rookie or being asked to do too much, by all means lay it out there.

by nationalist88 on Oct 3, 2010 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1 to colin

Yeah he messes up sometimes, but was Revis as good as he is now when HE was a rookie? no. no one is. especially for cornerbacks, this league beats the crap outta rookie corners. and even though he can’t completely handle the better receivers yet, I think it’s actually a good thing that our staff is putting him on the better ones. covering better receivers is definitely better for his development, and if he reaches his full potential, I think we would ALL love to pretty much have two revis-es playing corner for us.
even if it costs us a game or two, i’d rather plan for the long term and let the kid learn.
so stop picking on wilson…i have high hopes for him

by Scott Bialor on Oct 3, 2010 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Revis may not have been as good as a rookie, but you never saw him look that bad.

And the team may have high hopes for Wilson, which is understandable since he’s a 1st round pick, but as we like to say in the stock market, hope is not a strategy. Rookie or not he needs to play better. And somebody oughtta springload his helmet or something, so he gets that dome turned around when the ball’s in the air.

by nationalist88 on Oct 3, 2010 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

You claim he’s incapable of turning his head and finding the ball. Do you realize how many years it takes a solid corner to feel comfortable enough in his skills to take his eyes off the receiver and look for the ball. Most corners never learn to do it with great consistancy. If you guys want to see a bad corner, watch the Pats game again. Darius Butler was gashed all day long. Thats the 9th pick in the 2nd round of 2009. He still not turning his head and finding the ball btw. You point out that Wilson was beat by 2 yards on the Fitz TD. Did you by any chance see how many yards Leodis McKelvin was burned by on the the Braylon Edwards TD? He wasnt even on the screen in the replay. 10 yards out of position at least. Wilson hasnt been burned like that at all. BTW Leodis McKelvin was selected 11th overall in 2008. He’s happens to be a very good corner. Wilson shows great technique, closing speed and has yet to get burned on the double move or pump fake all season. He also made a great play today forcing a WR out of bounds before both his feet hit the field. He’s playing about as well as you could expect a rookie to play in this situation. Your way off.

by colinyoung on Oct 3, 2010 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Instead of comparing Wilson to other corners around the league who are also struggling, I’d rather he got himself out of that category. Maybe expectations are too high for a rookie. And all that talk about Alcrotraz and the Bermuda triangle just add to it. IDK. What I do know however, is that Wilson is disappointing as a 1st round draft pick, our pass defense went from #1 overall last year to #27 after a few games this year, and the guy’s been burnt so many times he’s producing more smoke than the A-Bomb when it hit Hiroshima.

by nationalist88 on Oct 3, 2010 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Im gonna cut my losses

and come to terms with the fact that Im not making sense to you despite making very good points. Thats fine, you can’t get through to everybody. I’ll just end by saying this. Wilson is a rookie. Your expectations ARE to high. He is NOT disapointing as a first round draft pick. And the reason our pass defense is so bad is because we are hanging 2 corners out to dry in single man coverage (who are new to this system) and not generating a pass rush at the line.

by colinyoung on Oct 3, 2010 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Unfair

Our secondary in 2009:

Revis (injured in 2010)
Sheppard (replaced by Cromartie, new to the system)
Strickland (repalced by Wilson, new to the system and NFL)
Rhodes (replaced by Pool, new to the system)
Leonhard

So of our starting 5 in secondary, the only one from last season that is playing is our safety. So before you blame everything on Wilson (our pass defense dropping to 27) look at the unit in total.

Also, not exactly a healthy D: Pace out, Jenkins Out, Taylor playing injured, Revis out, not to mention our subs like Westerman and Pitoitua. Generating a good pass rush helps the D.

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by NC_Scott on Oct 4, 2010 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

+1

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by kv on Oct 4, 2010 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

The new to the systm argument isn’t valid because all the guys we had back there last year were new to the system also.

The biggest reason the pass D hasn’t faired as well is because we’ve played significantly better offenses than those we played last year, plus we haven’t had Revis at 100%.

Once we get Revis back fully, and we play some lesser offenses, the stats will dramatically improve.

by Crackback on Oct 4, 2010 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

so is revis able to close down the O on 3rd and long, cause that is the real problem.

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by NC_Scott on Oct 4, 2010 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

You tell me? Does Miami have nearly the same output if Revis is on Marshall rather than Cro? I don’t think so. I think you cut Marshall’s catches in half in that game. No way he’s anywhere near 10 catches for 160 if Revis is on him. And i think the other guys production goes down as well with Cro on the other side rather than Wilson. So i think our conversion rate would be much stronger there.

As for Baltimore and the Pats, its tough to say. They both have strong QBs and very good receiving options. I think Revis on Boldin would have made a huge difference. But who knows what the ramifications would have been. Could have put Cro out on Mason and if he won that match-up we cut down their 3rd down conversions dramtically. But Boldin is their money man and Revis would have made a huge impact on that game if he was fully healthy.

The Pats is a tougher call, but his leaving that game was a blessing in disguise. They have so many weapons though that theyre gonna be tough to slow down. But because he got hurt, we know that we can take Moss out with Cro plus safety help. Cro may be able to take Moss solo. If thats the case, we can stick Revis on Tate and erase him and bracket both Welker and Hernandez. But the Pats are gonna convert, there’s no complete shutdown of that team unless you can get to Brady regularly.

But overall? Yeah, i think Revis makes a huge difference.

by Crackback on Oct 4, 2010 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

well how bad is wilson playing REALLY?
you could say he cost us the game against the ravens, but he hasn’t cost us a game since then really. he stepped up against the pats along with the rest of the secondary when revis ‘pulled his hammy’ (oh god i got beat for the first time lemme grab my leg)
the 2nd TD pass probably was him just getting burned. but CBs DO get burned, even revis has gotten beat before. im not watching him every play either, but he’s young and there’s a psychology aspecct to it too, nd u cant assume he’s too mature. when ur team’s up 38-7 a part of u shud naturally say “this doesn’t mean shit” and u can very well let up

by Scott Bialor on Oct 3, 2010 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh god i got beat for the first time lemme grab my leg

Do you really think Revis sat two games to sell a fake injury?

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by John B on Oct 3, 2010 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

i dont think it really messed him up too bad
i think he’s sitting out because hammy’s can be nagging nd he wants to rest it anyway
he wasnt at the top of his game but i dont think that one route screwed him up that badly.
plus, when ur the best nd u mess up, u dont try to make an excuse if usain bolt got beat by someone in a race out of nowhere, u dont think he’d be like…psht…i was sleepy or something?

by Scott Bialor on Oct 3, 2010 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Unless your a pro corner you can't say that

Hammy’s are a serious concern, especially with corners and the quick twitching your body needs shadowing the opposite receiver.

by Atronic on Oct 3, 2010 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

i said that
but at the same time i think there’s a good chance he dramatized his injury straight after the TD
nd im glad he rested it the last two weeks anyway, because that definitely comes back to haunt you if you don’t

by Scott Bialor on Oct 4, 2010 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

serious+1

In an Ideal world, I would have all ten fingers on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching.

by BL3ACH on Oct 3, 2010 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

nationalist88

What your missing is exactly what I already said in my first post. He’s a rookie who is being asked to play out on an island against top WR with little to no help over the top. Every time the Jets throw the kitchen sink at a QB this kid has to cover one third of the field against an veteran caliber wide receiver. No team asks that much out of their Corners. Let alone a rookie. We didn’t even ask this much of Darrell in his rookie season.

by colinyoung on Oct 3, 2010 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

have faith

it might work out for the best when he’s just as good as revis if not better in a few years

by Scott Bialor on Oct 3, 2010 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

In short. Thats exactly what im saying.

A corner on any other team needs time to adjust to the speed of the NFL. Just the mere fact that hes asked of so much on this defense without its #1 corner is reason enough to support him and, like your saying’ “have faith”.

by colinyoung on Oct 3, 2010 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m not disagreeing with you, but he’s not playing particularly well, and I’m not going to ignore it. He’s playing badly so he ends up in the bad category.

I said just about everything you said. He’s got an excuse. Sanchez did too last year, but I still pointed out when he was bad. It affects the game so I won’t ignore it.

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by John B on Oct 3, 2010 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

i was just pointing out why he shouldnt be frustrated that wilson’s in a tough spot
the only time it REALLY bothered me was when we kept putting him on boldin for the whole first half in the ravens game
mostly because we couldn’t do jack shit on offense, but now that the rest of the team is making up for most of his mistakes- offensively and defensively

by Scott Bialor on Oct 3, 2010 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

John I actually agree with you. I don't think you should ignore anything.

My problem is with the fanbase. So many people expect too much out of this kid. I see posts about how bad he is on a regular basis. How he’s not playing up to his first round potential. Or how he’s the reason were so bad in pass defense stats. I agree, he’s giving up alot of plays. But fans have to look past the surface and realize how much the team is actually asking of him in the first place. No team in the NFL askes this much out of their corners. In a perferable situation, Kyle Wilson would be playing the slot or a 3rd option with Revis on the field and a healthy pass rush unit. Instead he’s covering the first or second option at times without saftey help and zero passrush. Im tired of the fans using him as the scapegoat for the defense and ignoring the strides he is making.
Again, My problem is with the fans John. Im sorry if you felt I was attacking you.
One last point for the doubting fans(Not directed at you John). Devin McCourty was picked in the first round by the Pats not 2 picks away from where the Jets were sitting on draft day. He’s shown that he’s notorious for biting on double moves and pumpfakes and has let up just as many TD’s as Wilson. Yet Pats fans treat him like he’s the second coming of Darrell Revis. They glow about everything he does right and show him patience when he messes up. Am I asking for us to say Kyle is the next shutdown corner no matter how horrible he plays? NO. Im just trying to put this all in perspective for fans. Have we gotten so full of ourselves that we actually expect a rookie to play press man coverage against #1 options and make it look easy? This fanbase is spoiled. Were acting out our Revis anger on a rookie who dosn’t deserve it.

by colinyoung on Oct 3, 2010 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

i hope the wilson haters see this

cuz I love wilson, even though i get mad when he lets up a big play, i’ll be sitting there with my dad nd we’ll both just say, “that’s how it is with a rookie corner”
when does a rookie ever enter the nfl playing like someone in their prime? they dont

by Scott Bialor on Oct 3, 2010 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

The things that Wilson is missing in his game are the same things that a player needs time to work on. Thats all. He just needs time. Expactations have been raised for this guy every week. One week he’s man’ed up on the 2s and 3s. The next he’s on the island without help. And oh yeah, they also gave him some special teams work this week as well. In 3 weeks we will all forget about this and watch in awe as this defense is locking down in all phases and running the way it should.

by colinyoung on Oct 3, 2010 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like Wilson.

But like JB I expect him to play better. I’ve stated my opinion of his “okay” play. I don’t think it’s good enough simply because I know how good he can be. I still believe in this kid. BUT, I’ll definitely call him out if he’s not playing up to par. And right now, he isn’t.

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by King A! on Oct 3, 2010 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

This guy was the best cover guy

we will love him for years to come. He is a rookie and Rex needs to not expose him like this.

In an Ideal world, I would have all ten fingers on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching.

by BL3ACH on Oct 3, 2010 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

"Sometimes it's the people. Any player can play defense, but not every player will play defense. Sometimes it's a lack of perseverance." - A. Johnson

by kv on Oct 4, 2010 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

The problem isnt wilson

The problem is we cant sack the qb. Our D line is good, but without getting a body on the QB, they are chucking the ball downfield and that is causing PI penalties and the occasional big play.

Our next draft should focus on some playmaking DEs, Gholston, aging Ellis and Pryce arent the answers.

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by NC_Scott on Oct 4, 2010 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

+1

"Sometimes it's the people. Any player can play defense, but not every player will play defense. Sometimes it's a lack of perseverance." - A. Johnson

by kv on Oct 4, 2010 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Def could use some new blood rushing the passer.

In an Ideal world, I would have all ten fingers on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching.

by BL3ACH on Oct 4, 2010 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

even tho i loved the draft picks we got, all my friends and i agreed we wanted to get a good pass rusher(especially after watching freeney do his work in the afc champ. game)
as much as rex’s blitz defense is…we all know it wears out our defense and may leave an open man…and with some good pass rushing, we don’t need to blitz as often
+1

by Scott Bialor on Oct 4, 2010 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Realistically, the Jets are 3-1 with Revis hurt & Wilson getting schooled

Wilson has gotten schooled in a couple of games, but the Jets are now 3-1. Revis is going to be back and Wilson can now go back to the nickel back. At the end of the year, when it really matters, the Jets will be far better off for all of the exposure Wilson has gotten to the NFL game in these early weeks.

by DougGreen on Oct 3, 2010 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1000 (colin)

"Sometimes it's the people. Any player can play defense, but not every player will play defense. Sometimes it's a lack of perseverance." - A. Johnson

by kv on Oct 3, 2010 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

looking forward to next monday

would love to wax favre after the travesty of his performance here.

by horace clark on Oct 3, 2010 6:23 PM EDT reply actions  

i think jim is consistent with returns...but

with a punt returner, i would rather have big play ability and speed instead of consistensy. Not to mention that its a risk because hes our best safety.

by JetKing55 on Oct 3, 2010 6:24 PM EDT reply actions  

welll

you’re definitely right. we’re a great team and when things are going well we do even better.
but realistically speaking, the vikings are ALSO a great team and the jets have this nasty habit of disappointing their fans
if sanchez plays well and gets in his rhythm, we stay disciplined offensively and defensively, we CAN definitely win by a possession or too
but i dont think well win by much, if at all. i think sanchez is finally figuring out everything nd im hoping it plays well next week
we also have to hope to stay healthy injuries can happen at anytime, esp. with older players like LT nd mangold nd blabla all the other veterans we have. when u get old u gotta worry about pulling muscles more AND breaking bones/separations etc.

by Scott Bialor on Oct 3, 2010 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

What makes the Vikings great? They look like shit this year. They’re no where near where they were last year.

by Crackback on Oct 3, 2010 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

They are competing with the Chargers, Cowboys, and Colts for most disappointing starts this year.

by nationalist88 on Oct 3, 2010 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seriously. Im mean they have one win. A single win so far. And that win was against the Lions. No way would i describe that team as great.

by Crackback on Oct 3, 2010 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

but they have the ability to do a lot
they’re just playing a lot wworse than they actually are
like the jets were doing in week 1
like the jets do whenever they play like crap for a while
the jets obviously weren’t a bad team last year and we proved that when we played to our full potential in the playoffs
but there was that stretch where we looked like garbage
the vikings have the personnel, but they’re just not playing as well as they can
do u get what i’m saying sorta?

by Scott Bialor on Oct 3, 2010 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I get what you're saying

But they are not that good without Sidney Rice cause favre didnt even have to try just throw jump balls all day but now he’s not there and he throwing INTs left and rite. If we continue to be great against the run we take AP who is like 70% of their offense and continue to left favre chuck it up and hope for the best

by JetsFan718 on Oct 3, 2010 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think they played better than they actually were last year, Favre in particular. This year is closer to the truth. If we slow down AP, and touch up Favre early, Favre will mentally quit.

by Crackback on Oct 3, 2010 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

dont forget we have to score too…which means we have to be on top of our game
ur def. right about favre he had a fluke last season but i thought about the sidney rice factor and if we shut down harvin w/ revis everyone else SHOULD be fine, assuming we don’t get into penalty trouble. and even with our awesome run defense…AP is still AP i dont think it’ll be a high scoring game…like i said earlier though, we CAN win…but i’ve been a jets fan since i was in the womb…nd i’ve developed a habit of hoping for the best but expecting the worst

by Scott Bialor on Oct 3, 2010 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

3-0 against the division

That’s the sweetest news of all ;)

Is it NFL time yet?

by Grady90 on Oct 3, 2010 7:54 PM EDT reply actions  

next wk

as much as everyone was talking about how good the steelers were w/o big ben, the jets are now 3-1 w/ 3 straight very impressive divisional wins and are getting revis, pace and holmes back. that might be even bigger boost than big ben. rex said in presser that revis will play next wk

metsjetsknicksrangers.............can it get any worse?

by dabu7 on Oct 3, 2010 8:30 PM EDT reply actions  

he said pace will also play

metsjetsknicksrangers.............can it get any worse?

by dabu7 on Oct 3, 2010 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cant wait

man I love revis and all, but I cant wait till mark gets another target in Santonio. That is going to open up the run game so much. Two deep threats on the outside cotchery in the slot and people still gotta wonder where the hell Keller is. Man I can see 100 yard games out of LDT and Shonn Greene every week. I think Keller is going to be Pro Bowl bound barring injuries to our offensive stars.

by hulksmash24 on Oct 3, 2010 8:54 PM EDT reply actions  

We. Need.
More.
Footballs.

by nationalist88 on Oct 3, 2010 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lots of weapons means....

The defense can only take some of them away. I am very heartened that it appears that there is no way to defense both the Jets ground game and the passing game at the same time. The only reason that Baltimore was able to, is that Shotty still hadn’t taken the cuffs off of the Sanchize.

by DougGreen on Oct 4, 2010 1:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

This offense will be scary, we will be scoring it much easier

Why the Pryce signing was big giving guys up front more of a rest.

by Atronic on Oct 3, 2010 11:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Ladanian's 2nd TD run was a thing of beauty

The cut he made to break it into the clear was something that only perhaps a handful backs in the NFL are capable of – and most of those lack the power to break to that level in the first place. He left the Bills defender searching for his jockstrap.

by DougGreen on Oct 4, 2010 1:05 AM EDT reply actions  

Yep. That safety had a good angle and had him lined up, but came up with nothing but air.

by Crackback on Oct 4, 2010 8:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Coleman got ran over by a QB

from Harvard, thats on the Bills, that shouldn’t be starting in this league, for that one play alone he deserves to be in the bad section. I didn’t see much positive from him throughout the game.

Also, Rex and Pettine need to do something about TE’s Leonhard is so out-matched by them it kills us, I think thats where our 3rd down problems come from. I’ll give it to Cromartie though, I thought Evans would beat him more often than not but Cromartie completely shut him down. All in all a good game, the team executed and no serious injuries, NOW LETS GO BEAT THE CRAP OUT OF THAT DOUCHE FAVRE!!!!!!

by vinnyandthejets on Oct 4, 2010 3:16 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

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