Should the New York Jets Utilize the Third and Long Draw Against the Green Bay Packers?

by John B on Oct 29, 2010 8:49 PM EDT

One thing I have noticed when watching the Packers are the unique fronts they use in their subpackages. Defensive coordinator Dom Capers is widely considered an innovator and one of the biggest influences behind bringing the zone blitz to the NFL. He likes to find new ways to bring pressure.

In nickel and dime packages, the Packers utilize less defensive linemen than most teams. Against Minnesota last Sunday in particular, I picked up their base nickel is a 2-4-5. The idea behind it is mainly disguising pass rushers. When there are 4 men on the line, the offensive line knows which 4 men are coming. When a defense rushes 4 in a 2-4-5, a pair are not evident. There are a lot of possible blitz combinations.

Green Bay also has a package called the Psycho in which they line up in a 1-5-5.

This makes me wonder whether the Jets should consider running a draw or two on third and long when the Packers go to these packages. The advantage in these looks for a defense is in the deception it provides blocking schemes. The disadvantage is it takes a lot of beef off the field. Linebackers are smaller than linemen and have a more difficult time getting off power blocks.

I'm not a big fan of the third and long run, but it might be a good idea this week to keep Green Bay honest.

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Putting the Ball in LT or Greenes hands is not a bad thing

I am comfortable with a draw on third and Long. it reduces turnovers, and we have LT or Shonne to run it, very good chance of breaking it against these exotic fronts.
On a similar topic, why can’t the Jets run an effective screen ?

by JetOrange on Oct 29, 2010 9:28 PM EDT reply actions

i've been asking the screen question for a year now...

and aside from the time sanchez threw the ball into that lineman’s facemask, i haven’t even seen them try. i ran a little survey last season, and the resounding conclusion was that we should at least try them, and that was before we had LT.

by exley on Oct 29, 2010 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions

here it is/was

http://www.ganggreennation.com/2009/11/3/1112422/screen-passes

by exley on Oct 29, 2010 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions

It wouldn't be the first time Shotty has done it

Remember the Brad Smith on the like, 3rd and 15? I think there was another to LT on a similar run that got stuffed too.

by bobdolethesnapplelady on Oct 29, 2010 10:12 PM EDT reply actions

depends on what we consider long, the score, and the field position

In a close game or winning, the draw is a good play in the defensive half of the field. If it is under 12 yards and we “need” the 1st down, then I’d pass. Jets are all about field position and play-calling balance. The draw is always an option, shouldn’t be the go-to, and shouldn’t be ignored. Obviously, the draw is most effective when the other guys don’t expect it. Jets have been 3rd and long draw heavy in the past 5 years IMO, and I have been to/watched every game for 30 years.

by soxaredone on Oct 30, 2010 12:03 AM EDT reply actions

This is a great idea as long as we don't overuse it.

I recall years past where it was comically predictive. But the idea of hitting LD on a draw or a screen is enticing. Guy is fun to watch in the open field.

by Crackback on Oct 30, 2010 11:28 AM EDT via mobile reply actions