Put It To Rest: RIP, 'Same Ol Jets'
by Matt Birch on Oct 18, 2010 1:53 PM EDT
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PrintThese aren't your father's Jets -- a new era of New York Jets Football is upon us.
We recently built a $1.6B stadium which we can finally call "home." Its outer exterior even changes colors to a sexy shade of green when we play, and that's pretty cool. We are now lead by personality-driven, 'players coach,' Rex Ryan. Both of our coordinators (Pettine and Schottenheimer) have done a stellar job and may receive head coaching offers in future years, and both are seriously underrated as far as what they do for this team. Special teams guru Mike Westhoff is still one of the best at what he does. GM Mike Tannenbaum acquired RB LaDainian Tomlinson and CB Antonio Cromartie for next-to-nothing, and continues to make solid draft choices to add young talent to our squad.
The Jets faced the following obstacles in Sunday's game, yet still snuck out a victory on the road, dispelling the "same ol' Jets" label which enshrouded this team in years past:
- The arduous task of coming off a short week into a tough stadium/atmosphere. Invesco Field and its thin atmosphere/high altitude is tough on teams and can wear on them late in games. The Jets had to play there while traveling near cross-country. Furthermore, they were coming off of a short week as they played on Monday Night Football earlier in the week in a game that lasted until 1 A.M.. Many were saying it was an automatic letdown spot, and on paper, maybe it was. The final score proved otherwise.
- An officiating crew that was against them for whatever reason, be it the Jets' physical nature or just plain old 'homefield advantage' calls. The "helmet-to-helmet" call on S Jim Leonhard was atrocious, as well as an offensive pass interference call which went against us. Denver found themselves bailed out often by the officials.
- Turnover issues (bound to happen sooner or later) - We spoke about a "correction" to the Jets +11 turnover ratio, and it was bound to come sooner or later. Before Sunday's game in Denver, Jets had only turned the football over one time all season. On Sunday, they turned it over thrice.
Regardless of said moments of adversity, the Jets found a way to win, and find themselves in a great position going into the bye week. The current AFC East division leader is 5-1, and, most importantly, 3-0 in the division.
I saw something in yesterday's game that I haven't seen from this team in over a decade: a team that doesn't fold under pressure, a team that believes they can win close games, and a team that found a way to "steal" a win in a game when many things didn't go their way.
Good teams find a way to win games, so nevermind the box score. This team is a legitimate Super Bowl contender, and as a fan, I'm happy to be along for the ride. J-E-T-S JETS JETS JETS!!!
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these grind it out nothing comes free wins will serve the team better later in the season then if the team was just steam rolling every opponents.
In an Ideal world I would have all ten fingers on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching.
by BL3ACH on Oct 18, 2010 2:18 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Agree 100%
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I Agree too but....
I’m still worried about the two teams that I still think are the toughest teams in the league and the teams to beat, Pittsburgh Steelers and Baltimore Ravens. I think the Ravens are the better of the two and we weather the storm in the sense that we only lost by one point. The true test will be against the Steelers. Getting smacked in the mouth does test a teams resilency just like the last game did, but we haven’t faced a real threat till we beat the Steelers. And unless someone else eliminates them in the playoffs, we will see the ravens again. We better be ready to take one away from them too.
The only thing I’ve heard more over the years than “Same Old Jets!” is “The Same Old Jets are dead!” Like, seriously, this has to be the 1,500th time someone has written a post like this.
However, sir! I believe this time it’s for realsies. Set the funeral for this February!
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what's sad is
we get all these ticky tack fouls and there goes james harrison intentionally spearing a couple of guys out of the game without a single flag being thrown.
I’ve lost alot of respect for the steelers after watching those hits…AND he admits his intention is to hurt the player.
i'm also going to lose alot of respect for the league
if they don’t hand out a fine or some kind of punishment for his actions and moronic behavior. All this while people are raising awareness on concussions.
The NFL would be purely hypocritical not to punish the guy while we had to suffer from that horrible officiating.
Not that I had any respect for the Steelers anyway, but I hate them even more after their fans cheered the return of Big Ben. I mean its not exactly like he’s coming in to save the day, they were a respectable 4-1 and that one loss was by the thinnest of margins.
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their fans are even more embarrasing
when all they can say is that it’s a legal hit, or even worse…that it definitely was not intentional.
The video showed Harrison led with his helmet completely on that first hit, not even trying to use his arms. Then the second hit, he just threw his arms out in desperation after the hit so that it didn’t look like he was intentionally spearing.
And after he admitted to intentionally hurting players? There’s no defense for the guy.
Steelers fan here
I think a penalty could have been called on both of those plays, but I don’t think that the helmet to helmet or hit to the head (the second hit was a forearm blow) were intentional. James Harrison does play violently but that’s why we love him.
Jet fan here
Another steeler fan said the same thing about the second hit but you can clearly, clearly hear the helmet contact which was more audible than the first hit on Cribbs. He says he wants to hurt players. Everyone has a right to play and injuries do happen but we can’t have a player out there intentially putting out players every chance he gets. Troy plays solid defense and hits quickly but he’s not trying to put someone on a stretcher. Thats why I have way more respect for him than harrison.
You say it wasn't intentional
but the man clearly stated he’s out to hurt people.
"A hit like that geeks you up, especially when you find out the guy is not really hurt, he’s just sleeping. He’s knocked out but he’s going to be OK."
When you get knocked out, you’re not ‘just sleeping’. That just reeks of stupidity. He’s no expert in medicine so he deciding whether he’s going to be ok or not is out of his ability and quite frankly, his intelligence.
And supporting this stupidity is sheer idiocy.
Then call me stupid. This is football, not ballet.
Of course he’s trying to hurt people. He’s a freaking linebacker. His job is to knock the snot out of you. And he shouldn’t have to apologize for knocking somebody out.
I have absolutely no problem with either of Harrison’s hits. And I have no problem with what he said. Football is an inherently violent sport. Hitting is part of the game. Sometimes when people get hit, they get hurt. Oh well. If thats too much for people to handle, I hear they play soccer in the fall also. Maybe those with delicate sensibilities should watch that game for their sporting fix.
there's a difference
between having delicate sensibilities and having some respect for the game. I’m a fan of a big hit…but what Harrison did was clearly intentional and he stated it.
Since you’re condoning his actions, let me ask you. What’s the difference between Alfred Haynesworth cleating someone on the ground and Harrison trying to get someone to ‘sleep’?
Whether you’re trying to be a devil’s advocate…defending someone like Harrison that thinks they have enough medical know how to determine that someone is knocked out is ‘ok’ is a load of crap.
Damn right it was intentional. Damn right he was trying to knock his ass out. No, he wasn’t trying to injure him, as in shred his knee or separate his shoulder. He was trying to obliterate him and give him a concussion and knock him out of the game. If guys don’t want to get hit in the head they should keep their head out of the hitting zone. Harrison didn’t launch himself at the guys head. The guy lowered his head into the hitting area. If he got knocked out then thats just too bad. He shouldn’t try to make catches in the middle of the field then. Why the hell should he apologize for that???
Harrison blew his ass up. Not only do I condone that, I celebrate it.
maybe it's because you're not educated in the field...
but a concussion can be just as bad if not worse than separating a shoulder or shredding a knee. If you wanna be ignorant, then that’s your problem…because I’m sure most of the educated public knows that a concussion isn’t merely ‘sleeping’ or even just a hard hit.
And if that was you, or your teammate or even someone on your favorite team that got hit…you wouldn’t be celebrating very much. And yes, he did launch himself…it’s actually quite blatant.
This is football. If you put your head in the hitting zone and get knocked the hell out, i’m not going to feel bad for you, even if you’re on the team that i route for. The Ray Lewis smack on Keller was a nice, clean, hard hit. If Keller has to miss a couple games from a concussion, I wouldn’t like it, but its part of the game. I wouldn’t like it if he bruised his thigh or sprained an ankle any more or less.
I like it when Shonn Greene lowers the boom on a DB who sticks his head into the zone of contact. I like it when David Harris pops AP in the mouth when he tries to tip-toe through a hole.
Both of Harrison’s hits were completely legit. Of course he’s trying to hit him as hard as he can to try and intimidate and inflict pain. Thats football. Thats what this sport is. Its violent. If a guy sticks his head in the hitting zone and gets knocked the F out, then thats a lessoned learned. Either don’t put your head in the hitting zone or don’t go across the middle.
If you don’t like watching guys get cracked, then maybe field hockey would better suit your sensibilities.
There’s nothing wrong with giving a guy a concussion. Just like there’s nothing wrong with hitting a guy so hard that you fracture his ribs or rupture his spleen. Its up to that injured player whether or not he puts himself into harms way. They shouldn’t allow players who suffer concussions to return to the field if they still are sowing adverse affects from it. They shouldn’t allow players to lead with their heads when trying to tackle. But players should be allowed to lead with a shoulder and hit anyting that comes into hitting zone. If that happens to be another player’s head, then so be it. He’s wearing a helmet.
you obviously
do not know what a concussion is…and have never had one before. And it’s not as simple as ‘putting yourself out of harms way’. Neither does wearing a helmet absolve the guy trying to go for an injury.
So to you, Harrison and Haynesworth are the same and you praise them both for it. It’s quite a despicable and ignorant thing to defend someone that obviously lacks intelligence.
I thought you were better than that, but I guess not.
How the hell is Harrison smashing whatever is in the hitting zone the same as Haynesworth stepping ona guys leg after the whistle? And hwere did I ever say that theyre the same.
This is football. Guys get hurt. Sometimes they even get concussions. Harrison is a LB, not a nurse. His job is to hit people… hard. Thats what he’s paid to do. Thats what we pay to see.
Football is violent. Its not for everybody. Its not news that defensive players try to hurt offensive players. Nor is it different the other way around. When a guard pulls and gets matched up on a DB to block he’s not looking to tickle him. And if that DB drops his head right before contact, you can be damn sure that OG is going to “try to put him to sleep.”
If you’re a football fan you probably like the violence. But I don’t get where the faux outrage comes from. Of course these guys are trying to hurt each other and knock each other out.
There’s nothing about what Harrison said that lacks intelligence. He was honest. Whats ridiculous is people pretending to be offended that a linebacker actually intends to hurt the people that he hits.
even steelers fans have said
that you can focus on taking him down instead of trying to injure someone. Intently injuring someone ala Haynesworth, is not part of the game. Wrapping your guy up and taking him down is.
You want pure violence, go watch MMA, WWE or some ESPN hunting show. The point of football isn’t to shorten someone’s lifespan.
And if you don’t think what he said was stupid, then you’re no better than him..cuz even Steeler fans feel that he should’ve kept his mouth shut.
Too Early
Don’t forget the Fake Spike came at the end of November.
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While I still think it's too early...
A lot of things ARE different this time. Having our own stadium is the real deal and BELIEVING we’re something else is also huge.
However, let’s postpone the funeral till the beginning of next year. Rumors of our death may turn out to be greatly exaggerated.
Kudos to Rexy for not getting tossed out of the game
(though I doubt anyone could toss Rex).
Hell I almost thrown out of a bar because of the calls.
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