A Bit of Clarification
by John B on Oct 14, 2010 7:54 PM EDT
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PrintI just want to clear up a few things from our earlier post.
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What are the guidelines for that [no profanity]? I mean, are we going by basic cable standards or what (you know, no f-bombs but most everything else is allowed?). I think the rule is a little puritanical and frankly ridiculous, but I’ll be a good boy and play by the rules of the sandbox. Not sure that kids should be surfing the web unsupervised, though, or even reading blogs.-kotite4ever
We're not going to go overboard with this. If an f-bomb slips through every now and then, we'll look the other way. I just don't want it as prevalent as it has been. I want things cleaned up as much as possible. The best thing to do is ask yourself whether you would be comfortable saying something to your grandmother over Sunday dinner. Now I don't expect us to fully eliminate this stuff, but I would ask our readers to keep it to as much of a minimum as possible.
Its one thing to be respectful, and refrain from saying dumb things that has nothing to do with football… But I like to get in a good, friendly ribbing with other fans. You guys aren’t a "news source," you’re a blog for people to share opinions, and if fans can’t come here to debate, make fun of each other’s teams, then where can they go to do this? This site (sbnation) is the perfect avenue for that because it is the only hub in which fans of every team are represented. I don’t curse on here, nor do I take unnecessary shots at fans, but I do like to make fun of the way Chad Henne threw 3 picks against the Patriots—and jokingly call out fans who thought he is better than Sanchez.-TheBeard17
I'm mainly talking about fans who post ask *opposing blog* about *opposing team* FanPosts. These people are coming over to ask questions, not engage in smack. Try not to bait or argue with them. They are giving up their time to offer us insight on the game. Be respectful. If you disagree, write a FanPost explaining your position.
Other threads are fair game for *respectful* banter with opposing fans.
John I understand what you’re saying and I appreciate the sentiment. But frankly, who are you to police the behavior on other blogs? The only people that represent GGN are those that officially write for GGN.
If another site doesn’t want a certain "new member" to continue to contribute, let them handle it. Worry about GGN. Think about what you’re saying. For example, if me and MiketheIntern are on P&T and get into it with a Celtics fan about the Jets and the Pats, a spat that P&T takes no issue with, your saying you will potentially ban us over here if the convo doesn’t suit your taste.
Honestly, what you propose is ridiculous. If a site doesn’t enjoy the company of a new member let them handle it. If you don’t enjoy the actions of somebody on GGN, then handle that. Or if you want to have more control over particular members, then perhaps you should ask them to become official GGN contributors so that you can have some legitimate basis for controlling what they write.
As for me. If you want to ban me then go ahead and ban me. I like contributing here and engaging with everybody else that comes here. But i’m going to write whatever the heck i feel like writing.-Crackback
Now Crack was frankly unfairly and incorrectly singled out as the target of some of my earlier statements so he was probably a bit concerned.
It is fair game for us to regulate what our members do on other sites. If they are purposely making trouble on other sites, it gives trolls from other sites rationale to cause trouble here. That's detrimental to the site. It creates headaches for all of us. Those sites will regulate how they handle things. We will regulate things as they affect GGN.
Let's not jump to conclusions, though. Why must we assume ban is the first recourse? If anybody out there got a friendly e-mail from their good friend JB asking them as a friend to perhaps go lighter on another team's site for the good of GGN, would anybody reject that out of hand without considering it?
I admit I was disrespectful on the Vikings board over the weekend.
I went to congratulate them on the Moss trade and said Favre has to pick it up for Moss’ talents to contribute. I was welcomed with comments calling Sanchez a "Dirty Mexican Wetback". It went downhill from there, Christopher Gates, the editor there emailed me and said he would ban the guy. I had no intentions on riling them up, but I said one little thing about Favre and they couldn’t take it. The Denver fans are much more sane and open to opinions than Minnesota fans are.-Mike the Intern
Don't allow yourself to get baited. Some fan bases are nicer than others. Anybody who says outlandish stuff only does so to get attention. Don't give it to them. They aren't going to be convinced anyway. A reasonable answer often (albeit not always) gets members of said community to call out their own for brutish behavior.
Adding to this, if you see a fan of another team making a mockery of themselves on GGN, don't be John Wayne. Just e-mail a moderator to get that person removed so we don't have to deal with them anymore. We police things as best we can, but some things slip under the radar on a site this big.
Finally, use discretion. My post bashing Brett Favre was fine for GGN, but it would have been trolling had it been posted on Daily Norseman because it just would have riled people up. Be good guests. Walk on eggshells.
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I'm guessing there was something I missed?
I try to keep myself to the Cowboys blog and the Two NY teams blogs. The Giants blog gives me hell, but we’re cool now. I stopped arguing about Romo is better Eli because sometimes you have to agree to disagree. (Stats show Romo is better in his career and No I’m not debating this with anyone here.)
I think you’re a pretty fair guy. The maturity level has to be raised a bit though. The comments about Sanchez is pretty childish. I like to talk sports. If you want to fight go to the nearest dark alley and get your butt whooped.
I also understand the profanity thing. Its your blog. I’m sure you want to keep it respectable as possible. A lot F bombs here and there in a post makes the blog seem low and trashy.
- J2
Individuals don't win Championships, Teams do.
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Get Off My Mound
It's not even that maturity is required
or that we can’t say the things we want.
It’s about operating with a mutual level of respect towards all readers of all ages and persuasions, on and off the home blog.
I always do my best to be a good diplomat
I know I’m not unbiased and I try to establish that right away.
As far as the language thing, other blogs are more strict. I like the flexibility while sending a message that if f bombs are all you have to say, you’re not saying anything at all and it won’t stay up.
It's tough sometimes commenting on a football site
Sometimes posters think of themselves as “great defenders” for their team. I don’t think of GGN as a place for doing such things. I like being able to simply talk football and cheer on my team. Even when a troll is being particularly offensive I still laugh it off and move on to someone who wants to just talk football. After all were all just Jets homers with keyboards. Being offensive just makes you look stupid not a tough guy.
by colinyoung on Oct 14, 2010 8:23 PM EDT reply actions
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“The best thing to do is ask yourself whether you would be comfortable saying something to your grandmother over Sunday dinner.” If I had either of my grandparents came over for dinner, profanity would be the least of my concerns. I luckily own the Zombie Survival Guide so I would be able to deal with the possible outbreak.
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But in all seriousness, John make a good point.
I mean by all means is this blog as bad as most of the comments sections on chat forums, and is much better then most other teams blogs I’ve been to. But just ask yourself, “Am I being a device used to introduce a stream of water into the body for medical or hygienic reasons, or the stream of water itself?” If so, you really aren’t arguing your point well and what you are saying will lead to unproductive banter. I like this blog because it is productive and efficient, lets keep the hygienic product type nonsense out of the conversations.
I see sports, not shock....
Virtually everything writen by the writers on the GGN site is pertinent. Recently I found myself defending a writer or two for what I think is their right to report events related to this site. Frankly I enjoy reading posts like those of Crackback, who follows the game more closely than I and whose comments are insiteful. People jumped on the GGN writers for the Favre postings, but this site gave more than enough space to the haters who were bashing Braylon.
So I think you’ve struck a balance here, provided some of the posters don’t attack your writers. Now about Jimmy Johnson calling Brett a drama queen….
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Sometimes I’m happy that Hockey isn’t as popular as the other four major sports. Makes things a lot slower and calmer, unless your contributing to one of the Canadian teams.
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Not sure what everyones getting all riled up against. This is a great site. Profanity is really at a minimum compared to other sites… we just seem to have a lot of passion…. and with the way this years been going compared to the last ? years… why shouldn’t we. I have to agree with the Original post however that we do want to remain as classy as we can as often as we can especially to the guys from the opposing team that come over to ask questions and answer questions.
Each week that’s my favorite types of posts… like this week J-man coming over to answer questions while Dave goes over there. I’m too lazy to start up accounts with the grace period to post in those but i do read them.
The debates over here are great too but sometimes we all need to agree to disagree sometimes. I swear sometimes if Kv and Crack were in a room… GGN Celebrity Deathmatch… but really… don’t we all really enjoy reading their posts… what the heck else am i going to do all day at work? Work? HA!
I think Jim Leonhard should be in the next Nike "Boom" Commercial or at least the next time he makes one of those tackles he needs to jump up with a can of Kool-Aid and shout "Oh yeah".
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