Rex Flips Bird To Miami Fans
by David_Wyatt on Jan 31, 2010 4:15 PM EST
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PrintUpdate- Rex has apologised for his actions deeming them "stupid and inappropriate." Wondered how long it would take for him to apologise, sure he really doesn't mean it, but it's standard protocol now.
Sure most of you have seen this by now. Rex was attending the strikeforce MMA event in Miami last night, and was booed heartedly when he took the time to give an interview. During which he made a rude jesture which was caught on a camera phone:
Explanation from the photographer:
Here’s a pic of the Jets’ coach as he smiles and flicks off two of my friends at a recent MMA show in South Florida. They identified themselves as Dolphin fans and thus this is his reaction. You tend to expect some sort of a class from a head coach, or at least you used to…
I have the same feeling that website does, thinking the Dolphins fans did more than just identify themselves, sure some things were said. Look for Rex to probably get fined by the NFL for this similar to Bud Adams $250,000 fine.
Not a big deal to me, sure he got some trash all night, so he did what anyone probably would of done in that situation, it was an MMA event not a tea party.
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Hmmmmmm, lets see now Jest have lost the last 3 in a row to Phins. And of all people, Teddy Ginn OWNS Reavis (54 yd TD pass play) and Rexy 2 100 yd KO TD returns in one game.
only fish you gonna fry are crappie!
Just think how stupid the average Jest fan is, and then realize that half of them are even stupider! ( a parody of a George Carlin line)
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LOL. Hillarious.
Of course there will be back-lash. But isn’t it about time that we stop treating these guys like saints, or holders of public office? He’s a football coach, not a priest. As long as he wins games and doesn’t break any laws, I don’t care what he does.
And i’m almost positive those freakin Fins fans deserved more than a flip.
+1
he coaches football, he isn’t teaching Sunday School. I always said we as the public hold these guys to a much higher standard then we should. They’re just normal guys who like sports like we are, they just took their given sport much further then most people were capable of. Doesn’t change their core values or anything, they are mostly just normal guys.
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If Rez was not a coach, he would be a shde-tree mechanic living in a broke down trailer!
Just think how stupid the average Jest fan is, and then realize that half of them are even stupider! ( a parody of a George Carlin line)
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Like you and your mother?
"Relax, all right? Don't try to strike everybody out. Strikeouts are boring; besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. It's more democratic."
- CRASH DAVIS
Hahaha
That’s the most ignorant point of view I’ve ever heard.
It says a lot about your organization, and you as fans, to sit there and say “It’s fine that he flicked off mere fans because of the shit they were giving him.”
I don’t care how nasty those Dolphins fans were, there is a complete lack of class to go ahead and flick ANYBODY off as a head coach on an NFL team. There’s also a trickle-down effect there that shows a lot about your team, because your team seems to identify so closely to Rex.
It’s also obvious that Ryan is a moron because it isn’t worth a $25,000 fine to give a derogatory retaliation that settles nothing except for that fact that your coach is an arrogant douche.
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I understand your point of view and I can see where you’re coming from except for this:
I don’t care how nasty those Dolphins fans were.
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Case in point:
Channing Crowder vs. Rex Ryan.
I concede whole-heartedly that CC was an asshole for starting that fight. He’s an idiot in general and talks more than he can play.
But Rex Ryan was just downright stupid to play along with it, especially via the national media.
My point about not caring about how bad they were doesn’t reflect that I think Rex deserves that crap or that Miami fans shouldn’t show class to a division rival. It reflects that fact that RR should have learned from both the owner who got fined and his earlier scuffle with Crowder. Come on onw.
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by Dave.Phuller on Jan 31, 2010 5:56 PM EST up reply actions
FYI Rex has stated that he regrets that that situation got out of hand.
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I understand that
Still.
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by Dave.Phuller on Jan 31, 2010 6:02 PM EST up reply actions
No you obviously don't.
He apologized, said it was a stupid thing to do on his part.
The League will fine him.
THE END.
Now can we move on to more important matters like the Draft and Free Agency?
I wish it were sooner
How are things looking on the free agency front for you guys?
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In our case, it's not looking so hot...
We are a victim of our own success. Teams that were in the AFC Title game will be unable to take full advantage of the Uncapped offseason. We’ll be stuck looking for players getting cut by other teams instead……
ugh….that blows. Tanny has his work cut out for him..
Well, who are you looking at losing
vs. who can you afford to/need to keep? Got any expiring contracts on big-name players? Or a lot of RFA that are at least still “assets” due to the lack of CBA?
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I'm the wrong person to ask...
I usually go to theganggreen.com forums to get details……
All I know is that the Jets ability to upgrade will be severely limited.
Now* that is.
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by Dave.Phuller on Jan 31, 2010 5:57 PM EST up reply actions
I’m glad he apologized. I thought the interview was harmless fun. It would have been a good story if it had ended there. I bet he would probably tease Jim Harbaugh, Jack del Rio or Marvin Lewis the same way playing against them.
But the finger – whether he thought it was funny or if he was provoked – I wish he could have stopped himself. I still think he’s a good guy, but I’m sure Miami fans will disagree.
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Miami Fans are still
…harping and crowing on how they beat the Jets twice last year. And where did THAT get them in the end? Sitting at home, eating nachos, and watching the Jets play two more games in the Postseason on TV.
Wow…“Great” Season, Phish fans.
Sweeping the Jests, even with no other wins ALL season makes it a good season!
Jest only got into the playoffs cause the Bengals and Dolts laid down in the last 2 Jest regualr season games, while Phins had 3 games in a row with teams trying to get into the playoffs as well. AND we lost some pretty major players due to injury – Pennington, Brown, Fergie, just to name 3.
And we had Gerbil Wilson taking up a defensive roster spot.
Just think how stupid the average Jest fan is, and then realize that half of them are even stupider! ( a parody of a George Carlin line)
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Isn’t that a little bit of a pathetic attitude, I didn’t know that we were that important to you, that you can go 2-14 and be happy. Now personally, I’d be pissed, I’d rather go 9-7, make the play-offs and get swept by the fish, than go 7-9 miss the play-offs and sweep the fish.
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how about all those Marino years when Jest fans were all about a 2-14 season would be good as long as those 2 wins were against Miami?
Just think how stupid the average Jest fan is, and then realize that half of them are even stupider! ( a parody of a George Carlin line)
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PhinsTifosi, you comment points out why the Phins will always be losers.
And one of the main reasons the Jets made it to the dance is because the Phins choked an easy win away to the Colts earlier in the season. Good luck battling the Bills for last next season.
Miami fans getting themselves into a state about this….don’t have the thickest skin down in Florida. You know if this was one of their coaches they wouldn’t care, and would just comment that the Jets fans deserved it. Think we all know what some of those fans are like, and flipping the bird is the only way to greet some of them. Just my opinion of course ;-)
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Everyone's entitled to their opinion
Fact of the matter is, NFL head coaches are expected to show poise, character, and class to everybody. Even if these were Bills fans, that’s just uncalled for.
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by Dave.Phuller on Jan 31, 2010 5:58 PM EST up reply actions
Lol.
Fact of the matter is, NFL head coaches are expected to show poise, character, and class to everybody.
based on what? Some unwritten code of bullshit?
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Guess not
if you as a fan believe he truly reflects you.. Which, considering that, is sad.
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by Dave.Phuller on Feb 1, 2010 11:30 AM EST up reply actions
What's sad is..
..the fact that you have decided to come here and preach your moralistic bull in this blog to us as if we wanted you here or something.
Rex did a “no-no” here, apologized for it, will get fined most likely, AND THAT IS THE END OF THAT. Now please go away.
And if Sparano did this
I’d be pissed. That sends the worst of messages to your team and your fanbase.
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by Dave.Phuller on Jan 31, 2010 5:58 PM EST up reply actions
Sorry if Rex offended you. Take your Midol and get on with your life.
No Edgar, it's not your fault, it's the fault of the idiot that plays you
by rxmeister on Jan 31, 2010 6:52 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
He didn't offend me
I just think it’s sad that such improper action is considered defensable on this site.
If Rex Ryan is some Jets fan, or a coach who was a far more humble individual, representing more of a class act, I’d apologize for the Miami fans who gave him shit. As it stands, that’s not the case. I won’t go as far as to say that he deserved it, but I don’t care who gives you what type of crap. If it isn’t actual physical danger they’re putting you in, just ignore them. Don’t let your wide-load ego get in the way and get you in trouble.
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by Dave.Phuller on Jan 31, 2010 7:00 PM EST up reply actions
I tend to agree with you, Dave. I think as a public figure, Rex should set a better example.
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I agree with most of your words, as well
I’m sure it’s difficult to find the proper line between instilling a tough, f-the-world-if-they-don’t-like-us, we’re here to stay in the playoffs attitude and being a positive example outside of the team.
I’ll be honest with you, if I didn’t hate the guy so much, I’d give less about it. I think I’d laugh if Dick Jauron did that before he got fired. Coaches just can’t do that though, period.
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by Dave.Phuller on Jan 31, 2010 8:47 PM EST up reply actions
I think the example it sends is
fuck those Dolphins. Their a bunch of pussies and we will kick the shit out of them. Fuck their fans too. I welcome all the Dolphin fans to tell me how you beat us twice this year. Still sat at home for the playoffs. Keep crying, chalk it up for bulletin board material next year, we don’t care. You guys suck. The Dolphins aren’t even in the Jets, and most of the Jets fanbase thought processes. We don’t care about you shitty team. Fuck’em. That’s the message he just sent the team and the fans. And I fucken love it.
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Whether he likes it or not, he’s a public figure, and kids look up to him. He’s a role model.
If I had a 5 year old son, I wouldn’t want him thinking that was an appropriate way to handle a situation instead of keeping his cool and being the bigger person.
Look, I love Rex. I was for hiring him before it was in vogue. But he was wrong here.
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John I have to disagree with you here. If some kid was screaming and cursing at your 5 yr old and all he did was flip the guy off, would you really take umbrage with that? Wouldn’t you be proud your boy didnt hall off and clock him, or scream and curse back at him?
Do you really think that if some guy cut you off when you had your son in the car that you’re not going to flip the guy off or mumble some unpleasantries under your breath for your “son” to see or hear?
Just bc these guys are public figures it doesnt make them less human. No, I don’t it would be appropriate for Rex to run around flipping everybody off, but in this circumstance I see nothing wrong with it.
I agree...
This isn’t sunday school. This is real life.
You really think that when Kids go to school, they don’t learn nasty words from other kids while there? Role Models should always be PARENTS, PERIOD. Telling athletes to be role models is just a way to keep them under control by their respective sports league.
but here’s the rub : Rex Ryan is NOT an athlete. He’s just a NFL coach. If you look for him to be a Role Model for your Children, then perhaps you’re not a very good Parent to begin with.
Don't agree
Somebody cursing and screaming at a 5 year old kid is different from cursing and screaming at a guy who plays a prominent role for a professional sports team. It comes with the territory. It happens all the time on the road. You have to have thicker skin IMO.
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by rxmeister on Jan 31, 2010 7:56 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Do you even live in Miami?
I come close to flicking off 4-5 people a day driving on I-95 in Dade county.
80s were the Dolphins, 90s Bills, 00 Patriots, Its the Jets decade now!
only problem is that you are flickin off other Jest or Giants fans!
(Miami native here)
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He could of handled it better, and I see the other side of the argument, but he’s a NFL head coach, he’s a tough Oklahoma boy, he’s not a choir boy, and if he is getting trash, he’s going to retaliate and speak up for himself. I don’t hold these guys in a the light of the holy grail, he flipped off a couple of people, he didn’t walk into their houses on Christmas morning and slap their kids.
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I do think those fans had the full intention of baiting him to get something out of him with cellphone in hand and ready.
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Then he should've just mooned them...LOL.
Just imagine the headlines :
Say no to Crack! LMAO!! :)
Rex Ryan faced extreme provocation before firing middle finger
From profootballtalk.com:
On Saturday night, Jets coach Rex Ryan fired off a one-fingered salute just as someone with a cell phone was taking a photo.
Amid rumblings that Ryan could end up being fined by the league for his behavior, we’ve picked up some details regarding the incident.
Per a source with knowledge of the situation, Ryan directed the middle finger at one specific guy who had been badgering Ryan relentlessly. “He crossed way over the line,” the source said of the person who provoked Ryan.
The guy accosted Ryan at least three times, yelling “f—k you” and “I hate you” from close distance. Eventually, Ryan lost his cool.
Consideration of the background might not keep Ryan from being fined, but it’s an important fact to consider when assessing the situation.
Then again, and as we said earlier, if an NFL head coach can’t control his middle fingers, he shouldn’t be going out in public. In the city where one of his top rivals is located.
UPDATE: Per Bob Glauber of Newsday, NFL spokesman Greg Aiello says that the league “will look into” the situation.
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It’s not surprising, If some guy is screaming in my face ‘f—k you’ numerous time, flipping the bird is quite a mild reaction.
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The league probably can’t just ignore it though. I wouldn’t be surprised if he was fined anyway.
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Bud Adams got a $250,000 fine
for doing that so $100,000 because it was a different situation
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Can't blame him if he was provoked by dolphins fans
But Rex should know better
DWDLD
by Jadden Hopkins on Jan 31, 2010 6:58 PM EST up reply actions
Looks like it was a natural reaction, I would have done the same thing
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He should get a reward, not a fine
because if that was me or anyone else I know getting that kind of heckling, that guy would have ended up with a broken face. The fact that all Rex did was flip him off is pretty fucking amazing.
Also, you have to question what the hell a guy’s thinking trying to provoke a 300~400 lbs man. That dude was seriously just asking for it.
People are stupid
Hell, they could have been drunk. I don’t know, they were acting like idiots. Really couldn’t matter less. To say he could have broken the fans’ faces and it’s amazing he didn’t? Wow. Those are issues. You don’t seem to care that he’d probably be arrested for something like assault, regardless of the instigation.
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by Dave.Phuller on Feb 1, 2010 11:36 AM EST up reply actions
Sorry Mr. Piety. Guess you've never flipped anyone off before.
Yes. There are circumstances where merely flipping someone off is entirely appropriate. This is one such circumstance. Now run off so not to be late for your tea-party Muffy and Chad.
Dave, stop calling people stupid
Whenever emotions run high, all form of LOGICAL THINKING goes out the window. you can’t sit there and tell me that if someone was yelling in your face expletives with his BAD BREATH that you wouldn’t have the urge to at least smack him upside the head….
Haha
love the bad breath addition. I’d absolutely have the urge. Everybody would have the URGE to do it, I’m sure. It’s acting upon the urges, even in a relatively mild form as flicking someone off, that I take the issue with. And I agree with you about emotions taking over. I’m sure he’ll pay his fine and the league will get over it. I just don’t agree, regardless of the argument, that saying he’s “the man” or that he was acting “relatively” properly because of how he could have retaliated. Just dumb.
At this point, though, I’m perfectly content to agree to disagree.
I liked Ryan a lot better as a Raven. You didn’t hear about him. Ever.
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Picture?
Where is the picture posted? It’s about to be my new desktop. I just wish the dolphins were more relevant.
Who cares if Rex flipped them the bird? Would we boo Tony Sparano if he were at an NY sporting event? Of course not. We wouldn’t even know who the hell he was. They booed Rex because he’s a coaching star and he’s made the Jets stars too. Good for Rex. I wouldn’t have cared if he kicked the moron’s ass. He’s a freaking football coach, not a ballet dancer. We love him because he’s tough and he’s made our team tough too.
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by rxmeister on Jan 31, 2010 7:04 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I absolutely agree
that he took so much flack and got cursed at because he took the Jets so far. Those Dolphins fans were idiots and tend not to be represented by the intelligent ones you tend to see on SBNation. It’s good to have a hard-ass coach put some life and some toughness into your team, specifically your defense. You need a mean defense in the NFL, in the AFC, in this division.
Nothing, not even that, excuses that type of behavior. I see John’s post down there and I’m sure he’s absolutely correct. He is on his last point: it’s not right, regardless of the circumstances. And it never will be.
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by Dave.Phuller on Jan 31, 2010 8:44 PM EST up reply actions
Please. Enough with the faux outrage.
He flipped the bird at some idiot, he didn’t slap a nun. If some jackass Jet fan was giving Tony Soprano the business at the Garden or at the Bada Bing, I would think it was hillarious too.
Whats the big deal? Have you never flipped the bird at someone? Who cares?
I care, because you're not a coach.
You represent 50-something grown professional men, in a professional position, getting paid handsomely. You should be a respectful individual when interacting with anybody.
Wait a minute.. why do I expect that now? Nevermind, you’re right. I don’t care.
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by Dave.Phuller on Jan 31, 2010 10:29 PM EST up reply actions
Captain Morality. He's a real person who did what every one of us do in similar situations.
Some jerk-off was screaming obscenities at him and he gave him the finger. You’re trying to make it seem like he spit at a child. He didnt throw a punch at the guy, he didnt get into a verbal altercation. Some douche-bag Dolphin fan was cussing him out and he casually flipped the guy off. Seems to be a perfectly restrained and reasonable response to me. Your dramatic outburst is silly.
^^^exactly
Not to mention, Rex was at a friggin’ MMA event, trying to be a regular guy and enjoy some fights on his off day. He’s not the god damned President.
Why the hell would he go to a StrikeForce or STRIKEFARCE event??
He should really look into going to a UFC event. He’ll get better fights..
But whatever…. lol.
Just some more about the situation...
Apparently the guy was heckling him, which prompted security to step in. However, instead of kicking out the guy, they simply moved him to a different seat. Later in the night, as Rex was making his way out, he passed the guy, and the guy said something again. Rex flipped him the bird.
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He'll still get fined for the act..
and I just know that the picture of him flipping off the fan will be on the Dolphins bulletin-board for the coming season but you know what? The Dolphags beat the Jets twice and THEY STILL WERE AT HOME watching Rex and Ganggreen in the Post Season. They could beat the Jets by 50 in the game or games they play but they won’t count any more than just one victory in their win column. (not like the Dolphins will have the same success they did last year, however…)
Eh, we'll see about that
The only problem for you guys is that we have no limitations on who we can bring in because we missed the playoffs. While you guys do. We also get the 12th pick in each round AND face the third-place team from each common division in which that takes effect.
Oh the perks of missing the playoffs..
You guys went to the playoffs, congrats. You got Sanchez valuable playoff experience, congrats. You lost to the Colts. Doesn’t really matter that you went to the after-party. Really couldn’t care less because it really means nothing to just make the conference championship for A year. You got sent home early. There’s no consolation, only screws you when next season comes. So enjoy :)
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The tune seems to have changed with Dolphins fans regarding the playoffs. I remember how it was such a big deal and how much better they were than us because they got in the previous year. Yet, getting to the AFC Championship – with a rookie QB, RB and coach – apparently means nothing.
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Was thinking the same thing.
But getting your pants pulled down and getting unwillingly fucked in the ass by the Ravens and Ed Reed last year in the first round apparently was some sort of big achievement for mommy to put on the fucking fridge.
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It wasn't.
It meant nothing to me because I had hoped Pennington wouldn’t be our QB this season. I knew he wouldn’t take us where you’ve been. It was nothing but an excitement, knowing full well we’d lose that game.
I’ll be honest, as great as your defense is, I was shocked you went on to beat the Chargers. The Bengals, not so much. Nice win, but nothing like the Chargers.
I hope mommy didn’t put it on the fridge. Every rational Miami fan alive knew it wouldn’t happen again this year if asked seriously about the odds. At the very least, they had serious doubts.
When I came here earlier in the season, it wasn’t to mention how we were better. It was to tell you that you thinking you’d shit on us was ludicrous and that it wouldn’t happen. I was right then, and my point is correct now: you made it this far, but your GM will have one hell of a time bettering this team, nevermind keeping it as competitive as it is with the limitations you’ll have due to making it so far.
I’m just being realistic. We suck right now, I’m aware of that, and none of our playoff runs meant shit. I just think we’re in a far better position to advance as a team because we have no limitations and better draft positioning. Simple as that. Look at the transition from one year to the next in the NFL: last season, you blew an AFC East lead and missed the playoffs. This year, Ryan fixes your D and you’re the best D in the league and make the final four.
We have Nolan now, plus no limitations, and better positioning in the draft/schedule. My point, moreso than the playoffs thing, was that you shouldn’t be so sure you’re gonna kill us next season.
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The team will get better because we have a young core and have all-stars returning from injury. Our QB will better and our offense will have more balance. Our D will be better bc of Jenkins’ return and having a year in the system under their belts. Our GM has drafted as good as anybody and we have no doubts he will find talent in the later rounds. We’re limited as far as FA options, but we’ll still be a better team next year. If we stay healthy, we’ll be battling NE for the division. The Phins have holes everywhere and will lose at least one game to us next year.
I'm sure we will lose at least one game to you next year
But that’s usually a given. For as long as I can remember watching this division, it’s almost an anomaly when one team sweeps another.
As far as the rest of your point, I do agree that you have a great core to build around. I don’t believe you won’t be playoff contenders next season. If you want to sleep on us, fine. Please be my guest. All of your points are quite basically mirrors of mine, however, if to a lesser extent. We don’t have holes “everywhere,” and if you don’t re-sign Braylon Edwards or draft a wide receiver with a high pick, your offense will be less balanced and Sanchez will have his sophomore slump. Well, may happen anyway.
Just don’t dismiss the effect Nolan will have on our defense.. you saw what happened to Denver’s defense with Nolan in just a year. We even let two of our starting secondary from the 11-5 season basically go to Denver last season. You add Dawkins and watch Dumervil emerge, and there’s your top ten defense. We aren’t in a much different situation. And, all it could take is a pick like Dez Bryant or CJ Spiller for our offense to become scarier than you’d think.
I’d rather you dismiss us, to be honest. But if you do, I’ll be back around next year telling you to shut up when you spread the “we’re going to annihilate your team and you’re all idiots for thinking otherwise” bull that I’ve read (not from you specifically). Or maybe I’ll let karma do what it wants.
Either way, it’ll be two great games to watch next season, and unless Miami’s away game against the Jets is the Jets’ opener, I’ll be at that game to finally watch one in person. Can’t wait.
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The difference btw our teams is that we have etsablished talent everywhere. While the Phins have big questions at WR, LB, secondary, QB (although I think he will be good).
Jets need one corner and one pass rusher (OLB/DE), and development at the QB, which we have seen this post-seaon.
If Sanchez plays like he did in the post-season, we’ll win the division.
Well
I won’t sit here and lie to you, I unfortunately agree. I’m hoping whole-heartedly that FA/the draft just aren’t good to you, because that young of a core with that nasty of a defense just isn’t fun. Even if you’re like the Ravens of the past half-decade (elite defense, inconsistent offense, but enough potency to be a scary fight and post a winning record on a yearly basis), that’s scary enough.
I think the secondary and LB will be addressed this off-season. WR? Not so much. Henne will continue to develop, though. I’ll tell you what, these will be two damn good games and I’ll be shocked if somebody isn’t knocked the hell out.
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by Dave.Phuller on Feb 1, 2010 10:18 PM EST up reply actions
The no limitations isn’t really what it’s cracked up to be. The free agent market’s going to be really dry with the 6 year of service rule, and most of the teams you’ll be competing with won’t have limitations either. Time will tell, but it’s going to be tough for anybody to really bolster their roster through free agency this year.
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I do agree with that
However, I’m sure there are a ton of owners out there (see: Arizona), who are either strapped for cash or just plain cheap, that would be willing to cut an Antrel Rolle or not re-tag a Karlos Dansby due to salary implications. I don’t know that they trust Matt Leinart enough to pay guys like that AND keep Boldin, and they’re not the only organization who would like to just cut ties with large contracts that they don’t see fitting their plans. So while the pool of FAs dries up merely based on the lack of CBA, ironically destroying a lot of the options teams otherwise would have had to acquire fresh blood, there will surely be newly created FAs that we wouldn’t even think of at this point because of reasons like that. I think it will be a free-for-all this offseason, if not because of high-profile cuts from unhappy teams, then because of the low-profile signings that will need to occur for teams to try to fill the holes they’ll undoubtedly have.
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by Dave.Phuller on Feb 1, 2010 10:38 PM EST up reply actions
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