Scouting The Draft: Brandon Graham DE, Michigan
Continuing our look at some of the players the Jets may have interest in, it seemed fitting to move onto Brandon Graham today, less than 24 hours after his Senior Bowl MVP award, which in turn followed a week of dominant performances on the practise field. A defensive end at Michigan who will be forced to move to OLB if he were to be selected by a team that runs a 3-4 system. At 6'1 263lb's he doesn't have the size to remain as a defensive end in a 3-4, although he fits the mould of a 4-3 end, and I would think that a team picking between 20-30 running a 4-3 will be the ones chomping at the bit. From what I have seen of Graham, Dwight Freeney comes to mind, in terms of size and some aspects of the skill set. Moving to a 3-4, the comparison sits with a LaMarr Woodley.
This also comes following a post of John's in the defensive MVP thread, about a team running a 3-4 relying on the play making ability of their outside linebackers. While we have two decent players in Thomas and Pace, it wouldn't hurt to add another play-maker to the field.
Sports illustrated reported on Graham following the game yesterday:
Michigan defensive end Brandon Graham was named the game's Most Valuable Player after a dominant performance. Graham collected five tackles, two sacks, one tackle for loss and forced a fumble. He was omnipresent for four quarters. On his first sack, Graham beat West Virginia tackle Selvish Capers around the edge with a speed move. Later in the game, he showed his strength while bull-rushing Ciron Black of LSU.
I managed to watch the game yesterday and was surprised by these stats, I'm sure he should be credited with another half a sack. His name was mentioned on almost every play, and the North D dominated the South unmercifully. He showed all aspects of his game, he has finesse moves, using spins (looked just like Freeney doing this), he has a straight burst which helped him get around Capers, and although Ciron Black doesn't have the best feet, he has some serious strength. Graham is not the biggest guy, but he definitely knows how to use leverage to beat the bigger/stronger blockers.
Career Stats
2006- 11 games, 3 tackles, 0.5 tackles for a loss, 0.5 sacks
2007- 13 games, 25 tackles, 9.5 for a loss, 8.5 sacks
2008- 11 games, 46 tackles, 20 tackles for a loss, 10 sacks
2009- 12 games, 64 tackles, 26 tackles for a loss, 10.5 sacks
Career Highlights & Awards
- Associated Press Class B All-State (MI) player of the year (2005)
- U.S. Army All-American Bowl team captain (2006)
- FBS tackles for a loss leader (2009)
- Big Ten tackles for a loss leader (2008 & 2009)
- SI.com All-America honorable mention (2008)
- All-Big Ten (First-team 2009, Second-team 2008)
- All-American (1st-team: ESPN, Rivals, Scout; 2nd-team: TSN, SI, WCFF, AP, CFN; honorable mention: PFW) (2009)
- Chicago Tribune Silver Football (Big Ten co-MVP) (2009)
- Hendricks Award finalist (2009)
- College Football Performance Awards Defensive Lineman Trophy recipient (2009)
- Senior Bowl MVP (2009)
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So what does Brandon Graham do well?
He has some excellent moves, and can attack in several different ways. Although he doesn't have the best size, his frame is filled out, he has great power and strength for his size. He uses his leverage against bigger opponents. Has a nice spin move, has some speed and burst off the edge, uses the bull rush. Has a high motor and wraps up the ball carrier, relentless in pursuit. Is a hard worker, loves the game of football, has football instincts and IQ. Has nice lateral movement, uses his hands well to get off blocks, quick recognition of the play, knows what he has to do and rarely gets baited into dropping assignments. Very open to moving positions, and believes that he can do the jobs of a OLB, including dropping back into coverage:
"Right now, I'm in the best position possible for myself as a D end," Graham said this week while preparing for today's Senior Bowl. "If coaches want me to stand up, I can show them tomorrow I can drop back and cover, if that's what they want me to do."
Woodley went through the draft process saying that he wanted to play defensive end, Graham is more open which can only increase his stock. Woodley was drafted as a OLB anyway by the Steelers and he made the transition look pretty easy. His measurable s are nearly identical to that of Graham.
What does Graham not do so well, and what does he need to improve on?
When we are thinking Jets here we are thinking of asking another good college defensive end to transition to the OLB spot and for some people that might be hard to sell, but he is no Gholston. He is not just a work out warrior, he wants to improve and he wants to be the best. Plays with fire. That however may be a sticking point. He has very short arms and could have some problems getting the same leverage in the NFL. Obviously at 6'1 he doesn't have great size, his open field speed has been questioned by some scouts, although personally I think it's pretty decent. If I'm being completely honest, continuing to list weaknesses is nearly impossible and would be really nitpicking.
Todd McShay ESPN draft analyst had some positive things to say about Graham:
"Whether he plays defensive end in a 4-3 or outside linebacker in a 3-4, he's just the kind of guy that seems to get to the NFL and have success," McShay said in a conference call. "LaMarr Woodley didn't come off the board in the first round, so it doesn't really matter where you get picked, it's how you do at the next level. And I think Graham is going to be very successful."
Detroit who have been coaching the North side this week have not failed to recognise his love for the game:
"From the first meeting we had him, I could tell that he loves to play football," said Kris Kocurek, the Lions' assistant defensive line coach. "He likes the game. He has fun. He feeds off other guys making plays."As far as him fitting in what we do, we look for explosive guys on the edge, and I think he's shown some things this week where he's shown some explosion and he has playmaking ability."
I'm sure that any team that is looking at him for the 3-4 will test his coverage skills thoroughly during his pro day at Michigan. I think that it might be like riding a bike for Graham, he played linebacker all his life until he got to Michigan, so the fundamentals should be there. I really have few concerns about moving him from a 4-3 DE to a 3-4 OLB. As you can see from the video below, he has lined up as a 3-4 DE at points, and we could do that on obvious passing downs, watching him, I doubt any are left unimpressed.
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I DONT WANT ANOTHER DE
Golden Tate, WR, Notre Dame… its too soon for a DE especially with Gholston still lurking on the roster
He wouldn’t be a DE, he would be a OLB.
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by David_Wyatt on Jan 31, 2010 11:39 AM EST up reply actions
Also these scouting reports are based on the highest % of people who voted on what we need last week. DE/OLB came out on top, so that’s why the majority of these are for that position, as time goes by, will start moving down, so after this it will be cornerbacks, and after those it will go to WR.
Defensive Line got nearly half of the 1,000 votes, Cornerbacks got another 200+, and Wide receiver came in 3rd with around 130 votes of the 1,000 cast. That’s why the majority right now are for the defensive line.
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What's wrong with our D-Line though?
I mean, yeah, Douglass and Ellis aren’t spring chickens, but we aren’t going to bring in an impact player at the 3-4 DE spot, so why take on so early? I like Odrick, I just figure we can grab a big undrafted FA or a later round pick and stick him at that spot. I say WR, CB, or FS (if we are going to let Kerry go). I know some don’t like Mays, but he can lay the wood, and while his pass defense leaves something to be desired, it isn’t physical tools holding him back. This guy has sideline to sideline speed, and can learn to play the pass better under Rex Ryan. He would help a ton in the running game and I am almost certain he is an upgrade over Kerry. At least this guy will lower the boom, something Rhodes won’t. I really still want Wilson or to move up for Robinson, those are my top 2 priorities. There is no wideout, in my opinion that we should be considering taking at 30. Damian Williams? Nah. Golden Tate? Nah. Brandon Shipley? Nah. If we want to move up and try to go after Dez Bryant? Okay, but none of those other 3 are first round material, to me.
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We need to start thinking about the future and we have little to no depth on the defensive line. I’m just presenting players who our members thought was the biggest need. The vast majority (nearly 50%) of Jets fans here think that we need defensive help, and this isn’t defensive line either, this is linebacking corp. Taylor Mays is not an upgrade on Kerry, not even close, he will make a couple of big time hits, but he will also miss a ton of tackles, he over pursues, he doesn’t wrap up, his coverage is less than impressive, and the vibe from senior week this week was that he was uninterested and lazy, and that’s not a player I want on this team. He was labled by most as one of the biggest disappointments this week. He has a high bust potential, and I would rather avoid the risk. It would be easier to get Kerry back on form.
Cornerbacks will come later, Like i said above, I’m basing these now on what our members said, and they wanted defensive end /OLB pass rush first. The others will come, will just have to be patient.
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+1
Mays reminds me of one of those pitchers in baseball who has a 98 mph fastball and no control, the kind of guy pundits keep saying, “He’ll be special if he ever puts it all together,” even though 9 out of 10 guys like that never do.
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Exactly, there are way too many ’if’s’ in his game for our team right now. If he can wrap up tacklers more consistently, if he can work on his man to man coverage, if he can improve his play on the ball. It is quite possible that he could put it all together, but I just don’t see the point drafting a guy who needs to improve in so many area’s when we have a guy who has shown he can pretty much do it all and just needs to put this year behind him. Seems a waste to me personally.
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Those are all easily fixable what-ifs.
Especially with one of the best defensive staffs in the league. You can teach how to wrap up. You can learn how to defend the pass and read the QB better with experience. I think in a couple of years Mays will be the better player, to a point where it won’t even be arguable. He is much faster then Kerry, and despite what you say about wrapping up, he is a much better tackler. He fills holes on run defense, and he throws his body in there. I agree, he is raw, but he fits our system. He has a ton of speed for his position, and again, while I will agree that he isn’t a technically sound tackler, he hits like a Mac Truck. Rhodes doesn’t. Mays will jar the ball out of a receivers hands going across the middle, Rhodes won’t. I would still prefer Wilson, but watch, Mays will be a stud.
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And I agree,
he is a risk reward type pick. I understand why you wouldn’t want him. He seems like an Al Davis pick. I am just trying to state my case for a guy who is an athletic freak, with a ton of raw skills, coming into the best possible situation he can end up in, for a team who doesn’t have a glaring weakness at this point. Have my lawyer hat on here :).
"Relax, all right? Don't try to strike everybody out. Strikeouts are boring; besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. It's more democratic."
- CRASH DAVIS
I don’t think he has the instincts, and as much as you can teach him to reach the D, he has something like one forced fumble and 5 interceptions in 4 years at USC. He is not a play-maker, he has no skills on the ball, yes he is absolutely lightning, but when you take the angles he takes to the ball, you can run a 4.0 flat dash it wouldn’t matter, you still end up in the wrong place you just get there quicker. He had a decent coaching staff at USC and even at the very end of his career there he was still taking the most abysmal angles to the ball, will do the Mays scouting report this afternoon and show you what I mean about his awareness and instincts.
Of all the first round talents in this draft, Mays (in my opinion of course) is going to be the biggest disappointment. He has great size/speed, he has excellent physical attributes, he has little football attributes. Does that remind you of anyone?
Can see where you are coming from of course, you can’t avoid those physical attributes, but those what if’s were there after his freshman year, and in three years with a pro style coaching staff and system he still has made little to no adjustments. Even some USC fans have been telling me he is all hype.
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That's cause USC fans are pissed they had a down year.
Back to back to back 1st team all american? If this were the beginning of the first round, I would say no. If we had glaring weaknesses, I would say no, but at the back end of round 1, for a dude with the freakish athleticism and power of this guy, combined with Rex Ryan coaching him, I would take a shot. Then again, whoever they pick has my full support. They have earned that. See, I’m not bat shit crazy about Graham, but if they pick him, I will assume they saw something in him, and given recent success in the drafts outside Vern, I will be behind whoever they choose.
"Relax, all right? Don't try to strike everybody out. Strikeouts are boring; besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. It's more democratic."
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OLB seems to be a bigger need than DE for us right now. Graham seems NFL ready, and looks like he could potentially be a high-impact guy. He can rush the passer and doesn’t seem to be a liability in the run game. I like this guy.
I voted Graham,
for lack of other choices though. I like the guy too, but he certainly wouldn’t be my top choice. I want to pair another stud corner with Revis. I’m curious to see who we may be able to pick up off a practice squad or low key free agent signing this year. The Ravens (and the Steelers) have always been able to find stud players, especially linebackers without using high draft picks on them and making it a high risk high reward situation.
"Relax, all right? Don't try to strike everybody out. Strikeouts are boring; besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. It's more democratic."
- CRASH DAVIS
The more I think about it, the more I think Odrick is a wasted value in the first round.
As good as he seems like he can be, I think he can have a much larger impact in a 4-3 where he can be a regular DT. Not that he wouldn’t be good in 3-4 as a DE, but it seems like that is pretty much just a body and we can fill that spot rather easily, since you don’t see a ton of production. How about we just move Kris Jenkins to a DE spot and let Sione stay at NT?
I honestly am not very excited about the prospect of grabbing any of these guys in the first round. To me, it is Kyle Wilson, move up for Patrick Robinson, or Taylor Mays.
"Relax, all right? Don't try to strike everybody out. Strikeouts are boring; besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. It's more democratic."
- CRASH DAVIS
Added an additonal video
Video was sent to me by a buddy Joe Signorile (@joeytick on twitter), big Michigan fan and Jets fan, trust his judgement and he says this kid is the real deal.
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