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Kyle Wilson's Stock Rising

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I have been away from the computer for over 24 hours, and I had a player in mind to talk about when I got home, however it seems I'm not the only one connecting the dots on need and player performance. E.Weeks of The Jets Blog, beat me to the punch on the Kyle Wilson bandwagon hopping adventure.

I have been following the updates of the Senior Bowl practises pretty closely and one name continues to pop up on the radar, followed by Brett Favre type praise. A lot of people thought that a cornerback to play opposite Revis was a must this off-season. Wilson was initially considered a 2nd-3rd round prospect, but that is likely to change if he continues to constantly shut receivers down:

New Era Scouting reported on Wilson's play this week:

Kyle Wil­son (Boise State) had another impres­sive day and I think it is safe to say he is the best senior cor­ner­back in this class. While he is not a big guy, he was just killing receivers at the line with his press cov­er­age. He made Don­ald Jones look silly in the one-on-one drill which resulted in Can­field not even throw­ing the ball because of how bad Wil­son roughed him up.

One aspect of his game that I particularly like hearing about is his press coverage ability. I prefer corners to play up at the line and get physical with receivers, although I have no numbers to back this theory up, I thought we played a lot better in press than when we were off. Wilson is not a big guy, but he has the speed, he has the fluid motion, the recovery quickness, recognition and vision. If he is willing to put in the work in the film room, he is quickly becoming a first round dark horse.

Not saying we should draft him, but just saying keep an eye out for him over the next few weeks, his stock could soar over the coming weeks. Take a look at the highlights below, and see what you think, a first round talent?


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Is it just me or does that skillset sound familiar…

Gotta check out the tape later though definitely.

by Exystence on Jan 28, 2010 1:39 PM EST reply actions  

I thought the same as well.

Going to watch a little more film on him to see how good he is, why he was projected as a 2nd/3rd rounder based off college performances and is now being talked about as a possible first round talent.

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by David_Wyatt on Jan 28, 2010 1:41 PM EST up reply actions  

He's a local kid

From Piscataway, NJ…<45 mins from the Meadowlands. Who knows, maybe he grew up a Jets fan. Though I’m not sure how much he likes the area if he went all the way to Boise…it was the best school that offered him a scholarship though (turned down Rutgers and Delaware)

by eeberlew7 on Jan 28, 2010 2:42 PM EST reply actions  

Would they have him returning punts and kicks as well? Or leave that to Leon?

by chrebetsthebet on Jan 28, 2010 3:44 PM EST reply actions  

I guess we would have to see how Leon feels when he gets back, he probably would be given the opportunity to return some kicks.

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by David_Wyatt on Jan 28, 2010 3:54 PM EST up reply actions  

No Boise State Kids

Overrated team facing almost 0 competition all year. I’d rather someone whose maybe a little less impressive but faced better receivers and teams.

"So basically, the Stats make no sense whatsoever."

by Mark D on Jan 28, 2010 4:21 PM EST reply actions  

Granted the overall ability was not that great, but when you look at the passing offences they came up against this year, he had to deal with some of the best passing offences in the country. Bowling Green/Hawaii/Miami(OH)/Tulas. Two of those are in the top 10, and Miami and Tulsa are were among the better passing teams, 23rd and 32nd respectively out of the 120 Division 1 teams. Granted they didn’t face Houston, but Wilson has come up against some very tough competition this year and now in the Senior Bowl week he is dominating some very good receivers. Add to that his general skill set.

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by David_Wyatt on Jan 28, 2010 4:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Kyle Wilson videos

Here is where you can learn more about my brother Kyle.

http://vimeo.com/channels/kdub1

His website is www.kdub1.com

"The heights by great men reached and kept were not attained by sudden flight, but they while their companions slept, were toiling upward in the night."

by justfndoit on Jan 28, 2010 4:52 PM EST reply actions  

Yes, his brother. I try not to be biased so I only post videos and stats. Everyone is free to determine for themselves.

These are some simple videos showing a couple of highlights. More to come as we approach the combine and draft day. Boise has played top WRs. Freddie Barnes at Bowling Green led the nation (watch the video tape). He’s dominated the best WRs at the Senior Bowl, is a 4 year starter, played HS football with Malcolm Jenkins. You can “compare” Kyle and Malcolm’s stats here: http://www.maxpreps.com/high-schools/yi9xvOwkX0CctOcbXfFRQA/piscataway-chiefs/football-fall-04/stats.htm

"The heights by great men reached and kept were not attained by sudden flight, but they while their companions slept, were toiling upward in the night."

by justfndoit on Jan 28, 2010 5:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Good stuff. I think you have a stud in your family.

I would love if he ends up playing for our Jets.

"Relax, all right? Don't try to strike everybody out. Strikeouts are boring; besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. It's more democratic."
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by nrmax88 on Jan 28, 2010 5:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Well it’s good to have you on the board. Your brother is awesome hopefully we can pair him with Revis. If he keeps playing the way he is, he might not make it past pick 15.

by chrebetsthebet on Jan 28, 2010 5:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Revis was similar. He

climbed through the ranks as the draft process wore on. I remember mock drafts having us choosing Revis where we were slated and then us having to eventually move up for him. I have liked this kid Wilson all year, and unlike Webbard, I look at him playing at Boise as a plus. Just because they play in a small conference people assume that the competition is garbage, when it fact it is just the opposite. He faced off against good WR’s a LOT, and had some real success. Good instincts and ball finding skills.

"Relax, all right? Don't try to strike everybody out. Strikeouts are boring; besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. It's more democratic."
- CRASH DAVIS

by nrmax88 on Jan 28, 2010 5:30 PM EST up reply actions  

The best thing that could happen to Wilson is to be paired with a guy like Revis, to show him the ropes on watching film, the dedication it takes to succeed in the NFL past just your physical tools, how to effect bigger, taller wide receivers.

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by David_Wyatt on Jan 28, 2010 5:36 PM EST up reply actions  

+1

"Relax, all right? Don't try to strike everybody out. Strikeouts are boring; besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. It's more democratic."
- CRASH DAVIS

by nrmax88 on Jan 28, 2010 5:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Love this dude.

He was one of the DB’s, along with Pat Robinson that I would love for the Jets to grab. Robinson and Wilson are both reasonable picks for us also. Odrick, Robinson, or Tebow, or Taylor Mays. That’s the direction I am looking right now.

"Relax, all right? Don't try to strike everybody out. Strikeouts are boring; besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. It's more democratic."
- CRASH DAVIS

by nrmax88 on Jan 28, 2010 5:21 PM EST reply actions  

Lol wow,

I just said Tebow. Should have said Kyle Wilson instead of Tebow, I was watching a clip of Tebow on ESPN while I posted this. Wow.

"Relax, all right? Don't try to strike everybody out. Strikeouts are boring; besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. It's more democratic."
- CRASH DAVIS

by nrmax88 on Jan 28, 2010 5:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Was going to ask about that one lol

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by David_Wyatt on Jan 28, 2010 5:33 PM EST up reply actions  

I read on ESPN that the Pats might be interested in Tebow. For what? The Wildcat? I can’t see Brady wanting to line up as WR or coming off the field.

by chrebetsthebet on Jan 28, 2010 5:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Would be a little surprised if the Patriots take a risk like that. Doesn’t strike me as something they would do.

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by David_Wyatt on Jan 28, 2010 5:42 PM EST up reply actions  

See, if we could get Tebow in the 3rd round or something

I would have interest. I know he doesn’t project as a NFL QB, but something about him man. The guy is tough as nails, would you know Rex would love him, he just wins everywhere he has went. I wouldn’t mind lining this guy up all around, using him at QB once in a while to run our trick plays, and to use him to pick up short yardage out of the shotgun. I think having a guy like Tebow gives you an enormous advantage on short yardage and goal line situations because he has the ball snapped to him and he makes the read where he wants to go. The defense can’t pick up on anything that the QB does during the handoff that may give away which side the play is going to or something like that. I think Tebow used in different packages for 10-15 plays a game can really help a lot of teams in this league. Is he going to be an every down, normal NFL QB? Doubtful, does he have enough of a skillset to help teams in a lot of other ways, in an overall less meaningful role then he is used to? Absolutely, imo at least.

"Relax, all right? Don't try to strike everybody out. Strikeouts are boring; besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. It's more democratic."
- CRASH DAVIS

by nrmax88 on Jan 28, 2010 5:46 PM EST up reply actions  

It all depends where he is available. If he is there on day 3,

from rounds 3 and 4 through 7, then I bet he will generate lots of interest. Depending on where you are able to grab him, the risk may be alleviated a bit. I think you could use Tebow as a TE, FB, QB in certain formations, you can use him in trick plays, he loves contact and he loves football so I think he will end up being successful in some capacity in the NFL, he has the desire, the size/speed, work ethic and heart to find success for himself in this league, at QB or not.

"Relax, all right? Don't try to strike everybody out. Strikeouts are boring; besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. It's more democratic."
- CRASH DAVIS

by nrmax88 on Jan 28, 2010 5:49 PM EST up reply actions  

With Tebow,

we can turn him into a FB and have him replace Richardson or turn him into a blocking TE, something that will come useful….

Of course, he can just do both lol

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by AmarDude on Jan 28, 2010 8:15 PM EST up reply actions  

thats the stupidest suggestion i have ever heard. and why are we even talking about tebow? we have a franchise quarterback (sanchez), two guys who can run the wildcat (washington and smith), and a young TE who had a great playoffs (keller). why would we waste a draft pick on an experiment like tebow?

by joey d on Jan 28, 2010 9:13 PM EST up reply actions  

if we’re able to pick up a good pass rusher and DB and tebow is still around, i wouldn’t be opposed. we don’t really have glaring needs in the draft other than those two things so taking a gamble on tebow couldn’t be a bad thing. that being said, kyle wilson over tebow all the way lol (had to keep this on topic somehow)

by eeberlew7 on Jan 28, 2010 11:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Lol.

How do you know Smith and Washington can run the wildcat? Then again, you probably think that when the Jets snap the ball to Brad Smith it makes it wildcat, since it isn’t the normal QB snapping the ball. I don’t know what Keller has to do with Tebow. Keller is a good receiver who can’t block. Tebow potentially adds a new layer to the offense, not to mention a pretty much automatic conversion on 3rd and 2 or less. He would be used much the same way Brad Smith is used, only he can do more, and he can throw better.

Besides, since nobody actually suggested drafting Tebow, it seems a bit strange that you would consider that the stupidest suggestion you ever heard.

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by nrmax88 on Jan 29, 2010 6:16 PM EST up reply actions  

+1

there’s something about Tebow that interests me

DWDLD

by Jadden Hopkins on Jan 29, 2010 8:56 PM EST up reply actions  

agreed! the guy can’t even take a snap from center

by chrebetsthebet on Jan 29, 2010 4:41 AM EST up reply actions  

Tebow=QB bust……Tebow=Not NFL bust in general.

He is too good of an athlete, a competitor to fail completely. He still thinks he can be a NFL QB, I don’t think you will find too many who agree, I certainly don’t, but I do think he will turn out to be a decent player when he finds his position.

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by David_Wyatt on Jan 29, 2010 4:47 AM EST up reply actions  

I don’t agree. I don’t think he’s that great of an athlete. The only position i can see him having the possibility of success is TE/H-back. But he doesn’t have NFL speed or agility. He probably can’t block a lick, since he’s never done it in his life. He probably can’t catch a lick either for the same reasons. The only QBs that have made it in the NFL have been able to run exceptionally well, and the overwhelming majority of those guys don’t last. Tebow just isn’t NFL material (just like Tony Rice, Tommy Frazier, etc.). Remove the disparity in talent that he was surrounded with through-out college and the guy is barely an average college QB. He has value in Florida for a few years of ticket sales, but he will never have an impact on the field.

by Crackback on Jan 29, 2010 12:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Brad Smith can block and catch

he played QB in college also. Nobody is saying Tebow is going to be an all pro, I do believe that he can be a better version of a Brad Smith though, you can run wild cat/option offense with him, you can use him as a decoy, you use him for short yardage, etc. I agree with David, this guy is a gamer and wins everywhere he has played. He has heart and the will to win and while I don’t think he can play QB in this league, I think he can do a little bit of a lot of other things.

"Relax, all right? Don't try to strike everybody out. Strikeouts are boring; besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. It's more democratic."
- CRASH DAVIS

by nrmax88 on Jan 29, 2010 6:18 PM EST up reply actions  

The only reason Brad Smith is around is bc he can run. Tebow doesn’t have the wheels for his game to be effective in the NFL. Brad Smith was 10x the QB Tebow was in college, and he’s 10x more athletic, and he’s still only a marginal player in the NFL. Tebow just doesn’t have the stuff to be an NFL player.

The winner argument doesn’t fly bc:
1) He played with more talent than most;
2) Most NFL QBs were winners everywhere.

Heart and will to win mean very little without talent. Which is why 99.9% of us are spectating rather than playing.

by Crackback on Jan 29, 2010 10:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Okay, you make fair points.

I guess agree to disagree on this one.

"Relax, all right? Don't try to strike everybody out. Strikeouts are boring; besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. It's more democratic."
- CRASH DAVIS

by nrmax88 on Jan 30, 2010 10:24 PM EST up reply actions  

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