Vernon put up freakish strenght and straight line speed numbers at the combine…I say put 10-15 pounds on him and make him a DE he has the strenght and height for the position and he would be more comfortable there since it’s familiar to him the it just becomes a matter of technique and as the jets look right now they need a influx of young D lineman so he would also fill a need then they should go and draft a edge rusher in the draft

Kellen Clemens: yeah he sucked and sucks just like I expected

David Clowney: yeah, he was disappointing but I think a lot of that has to go on how bad Sanchez was this year. It’s not like we went three-wide too often either, so he didn’t really get too many opportunities to play. If he still does nothing after NEXT year, then we can say that officially he sucks.

Vernon Gholston: I just can’t believe that a guy that is that freakish of an athlete isn’t going to blow up. If it’s a technique thing then it can be fixed. If it’s a mental thing, that’s tougher but it can also be fixed. If he really just doesn’t have any desire to play, then man… what a waste. I’m not trying to make any excuses but he did have some things going against him. One thing is that he was playing under a completely different system last year and this year, which probably is devastating considering the trouble he had learning it last year. Another thing, when do you get to put him on the field? I’m guessing a lot of people were expecting him to take over for Bryan Thomas. The thing is, Bryan Thomas is actually a really solid player. Doesn’t do anything outstanding that jumps out at you in the stat sheet, but he’s great in run support and occasionally makes a great play here or there, and you’re not gonna give that skillset up to an unproven guy just based on potential alone. You can’t put him anywhere on the line either, unless you want to start him over Marques Douglas, another solid veteran who excels in run support.

I think the main problem stems from the fact that he was way overrated by everyone coming into the draft based mostly on a crazy combine and ONE sack on a great tackle. I know he had 13 other sacks that season, but who were they against? That’s an actual question, because I have no idea. Did he face any other quality competition? How did he fare? I don’t know these things. All I know is that he is a freakish athlete and he has the physical tools to dominate. But at this point it’s obvious that he’s a project player, so maybe we should treat him like one instead of just immediately calling him a bust and tossing him aside.

They went to the championship round to say they sucked is kind of rediculous,Some of the play was inadequate but will a Superbowl victory be even enough for you armchair ’anal’ysts?

We were taking about D’Brick the same way we’re talking about Vernon now. Give him time, the athletic talent will come out and he’ll be a pro-bowler also.

I think clemens has to be the greatest disappointment this year. There was a lot of talk in the offseason about him getting better, having a complete understanding of the playbook and so on but when he played I didn’t see any noticeable improvements in his one start from his first year starting.
Gholston and Clowney are still young so they can get better. Kellen hasn’t really improved after 5 years thats really concerning and much more disappointing than Gholston and Clowney who still have a chance of getting better.

After reading all your posts there are some great points being made. Clowney and Gholston don’t seem to have an opportunity to prove themselves. Clemens has had his opportunities and shown that he is nothing more than a game manager at best. We need to send Clemens to a team that needs him move Ainge up or get a veteran back-up but I would really like to see what Ainge can do. That seems to be a problem in the NFL some players never get a chance to really show what they can do and fall by the wayside. I guess we’ll see what off-season moves the team makes.

Is it fair to put an undrafted rookie on the disappointing list? Everyone else probably says no. After Rex’s hype about the guy ’’I’ll tell you, Westerman, the kid from Rutgers, I’ll be shocked if he doesn’t make a name for himself this year’’ and a sack in the first game, I was expecting more.

He stepped up his game towards the end of the season, but the season as a whole is a disappointment. Can’t blame it on the system either because it was a new system for everybody and it seems that everybody else’s game has stepped up a notch or two (eg Revis and Harris).

I would add Keller, who seemed to dog it for a few games, but you gotta cut the guy slack because of the QB play during that stretch. When Mark finally improved, Keller improved dramatically.

By far the worst. Not even fit for a number three spot. Cut him and sign a vet with some upside like Leftwich or someone willing to mentor our kid. It’s time our relationship finally ended.

Gholston didn’t get significant playing time after Pace came back and therefore I can’t fault him entirely. But if he can’t get onto the field that means coaches and staff see something they don’t like, which isn’t that surprising. He’s far too expensive for a bust. I don’t even care if he does explode somewhere, he’s a waste of our time when we have such an excellent framework for a SB run. Paying this kid millions of dollars a year to “develop” is a load of garbage. Cut him or try to bundle him in a package with a better player. Who knows, maybe Cleveland will bite.

Clowney had a good preseason. He’s just not a solid receiver in any position or situation. Not yet anyway. I don’t really care whether he stays or goes.

Braylon Edwards has two major factors I consider: His amazing separation/acceleration skills and his downside, the brick hands. If you had asked me earlier in the season I probably would have said he’s too drop crazy to keep around but he’s shown enough promise around a rookie QB that I won’t mind terribly if he stays. Although I wouldn’t mind those 1st and 3rd round picks instead…

Kerry Rhodes made me look like a prophet with his rebound. He’s good enough to stay, but we should only keep him if we’re sure we don’t have a better replacement available. Either way he won’t be staying it seems, Rex punched his ticket out of town halfway through the year no matter what either of them say, and Rhodes seems more than happy to try his luck elsewhere. For all the talk surrounding Gholston, Kerry Rhodes is your next Jon Vilma if we have any stars in waiting departing this year at all.

Now, beyond Clemens who I expected to stink, here is Bro Namath’s pick for most disappointing of the season:

The entire Jets Secondary minus anyone named Revis or Leonard. Deplorable. Sheppard Rhodes and Strickland are as good as gone which is the right move. If I had it my way Lowery would leave with them, if not sooner. All of them looked awful in coverage and even worse with the bevy of failed tackles left on the field. Get rid of them all as fast as you can. There will be replacements through agency and draft.

Now, what to address. Someone mentioned bringing in someone like Osi Umenyora to play a DE-LB situational role in what Rex calls the 3 1/2 – 3 1/2 Defense. The Elvis player (named for Dummerville, the prototype of what the Jets front 7 needs to be above and beyond complete) would make it so on certain downs you face the likes of Ellis, Jenkins, Pouha, and Elvis backed up by Pace Scott and Harris. On other downs you have Jenkins Ellis and whoever you like backed up by the same three plus the Elvis player. A front seven so formidable would make us Super Bowl contenders and take the strain off the sub-par secondary.

Assuming Gholston will never be the Elvis player you have to sign or trade for him, or draft him and be sure you’re not replacing one bust with another. Our free agency options during the uncapped year will be limited. The final eight rule specifies that during uncapped years the teams to reach divisional playoffs will be restricted in the number of unrestricted FA’s they may add. Meaning because we had a good run and can spend as much money as we like we will have a limited number of unrestricted players or will have to compensate teams by taking restricted free agents. Under these rules players must be in the league 6 years in order to be unrestricted. Most of the available talent this year will have to be compensated for with draft picks and other players. So you can more or less throw away any notion you had that we could buy the 10/11 Super Bowl. Maybe the Redskins, but not us.

Here’s what you do if you’re Woody and it pains me to say it: Keep your offense intact sans Thomas Jones. Don’t make any costly additions. Neglect the offense in favor of strengthening the already formidable defense. If you HAVE to add a player get a hands receiver who won’t be that expensive anyway. Someone to add some slot reliability for Sanchez, Edwards, and Cotchery to work off of. Replace the secondary around Revis and Leonard and find and get the Elvis Player no matter what the cost. Jettison TJ, Clowney, Strickland, Sheppard, Lowery, Gholston, and Rhodes if you have somebody better.

Then and only then will we have a complete stout defense team with a strong running game/game managing offense. If we can manage to find and sign all of these missing pieces we will go to and win the Superbowl. I guarantee it.