Fake Rumor: Rhodes for Umenyiora?

by John B on Jan 26, 2010 10:00 AM EST Comment 30 comments

At my day job some people were talking about a potential swap between the Jets and Giants of Kerry Rhodes for Osi Umenyiora. It's the first I've heard of any such talk. I don't think there's any truth to it at this point. There's nothing from any newspaper, radio, or television source. My guess is somebody heard it suggested on WFAN or a message board or something. It's a nice way to start a discussion, though. What's the offseason if not a time to play armchair GM?

I've heard crazier fake rumors in the past. This seems like the kind of deal that could really benefit both teams. These are two really talented guys coming off disappointing years who would probably benefit a fresh start. The Giants need secondary help. They have plenty of pass rushers in theory. The Jets can't get to the quarterback using four rushers. They need to find a guy who can consistently win one on one matchups.

I'm not sure how crazy I'd be about Umenyiora lining up at outside linebacker. Could he be effective standing up as a rusher? How would he be in coverage or in space? The Jets do use a lot of 4-3 looks, though. A line of Ellis, Jenkins, Pouha, and Umenyiora would be a good one.

What are your thoughts? Even though this trade isn't even legitimately rumored yet, would you pull the trigger?

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Would you trade Kerry Rhodes for Osi Umenyiora?

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If this rumor is true it would be a great trade, Osi would be able to apply pressure on the qb allowing our secondary to play better. However I highly doubt that the giants would want to trade one of their best defensive players for a corner who isn’t really good in coverage (Rhodes).

by LostOnRevisIsland24 on Jan 26, 2010 10:19 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

Will have to think this over, it’s actually a lot tougher when you really think about it. My initial thought was ‘no’ and that’s where my vote went. I’m not sure we play enough 4-3 fronts for Osi to have as big an impact, and don’t trust him as a OLB in this system thinking first off now. Kerry is a good safety with the potential to be great, I know ‘potential’ is a frustrating word for a player who will be going into his 6th season in the league next year, but at the end of the year we started to see 2006/2007 type form from him, and if he can do that the entire season in 2010, I think he is probably more valuable than Osi. Not certain though.

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by David_Wyatt on Jan 26, 2010 10:37 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

+1

Didnt the Giants experiment with Osi at OLB and it not go so well? Not sure but I remember hearing something about that maybe 2 seasons ago.

Rhodes in no doubt talented but he just to have a negativity about him. And that he always seems to be a step late drives me crazy. He lacks intangibles it seems. Its like he has no presence. He does his job, I guess, and he covers pretty well. But he never seems to make a play. Leonard, whose slower and smaller, is always around the ball and making hits and causing fumbles and breaking up passes.

Maybe you can trade Rhodes to the Giants for one of those stud receivers they have in their stable, like a Manningham or that other big dude.

by Crackback on Jan 26, 2010 10:54 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

That was Kiwi(Kiwanuka)

and no, you cannot have one of our wideouts! lol

by wilddre22 on Jan 26, 2010 11:29 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Oh ok. I knew it was somebody.

Lol. Cmon, we’ll even throw in Gholston.

by Crackback on Jan 26, 2010 12:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Did you all see what Rex said about Kerry, that he had a meeting with Kerry and what was said will remain between the two for the time being, and Kerry won’t talk about his future. Do get the feel that we may be shopping him

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by David_Wyatt on Jan 26, 2010 12:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Saw that too. He’s already gone, IMO. Rhodes has been referring to the Jets as “they” also for a while now. I won’t miss him.

by Crackback on Jan 26, 2010 1:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I won’t miss the 2009 Kerry Rhodes, but from drafting him to 2008 I sure will.

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by David_Wyatt on Jan 26, 2010 1:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I absolutely agree. But how can that guy disappear in this system? Its disconcerting. He’s shown flashes this year. But I felt frustrated by him always seeming to be there just a step too late or pulling up on making tackles. I want another Leonard back there. Someone whose gonna stick his nose in there. Might be able to go with Smith if we can get a bona fide pass rusher.

by Crackback on Jan 26, 2010 1:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Maybe we can go with Dig. Theres no doubt about that guys aggression.

by Crackback on Jan 26, 2010 1:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Haha that guy is crazy, he will hit whoever happens to come within 20 feet of him. Not sure he is starting material, I’m a big fan of Smith, but don’t think he is a starter either. I hate letting good players go though, but in his mind, if he is already somewhere else, no point in keeping him.

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by David_Wyatt on Jan 26, 2010 1:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

what are you gonna do with Gholston?

Anybody ever thought of letting him put his hand in the ground? works in Madden!

he’s not obviously gonna be that outside rusher you perceived.

by wilddre22 on Jan 27, 2010 1:43 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

We have tried that at times, didn’t really seem to make a difference, was still getting tied up far too easily.

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by David_Wyatt on Jan 27, 2010 5:12 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I say no.

Who ELSE do we have at safety? We’re not exactly swimming in the deep end with our depth chart in the secondary….

We are gonna shock them with 5,000 mega watts of raw ROO POWER.

by psuwxman on Jan 26, 2010 10:42 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

Terrible trade.

Kerry picked up his play dramatically at the end of the year and I anticipate more of THAT Kerry in the future. Meanwhile, Osi’s overrated and undersized even for a 4-3 end, and lord knows how he’d do as an OLB. Absolutely not buying.

by Exystence on Jan 26, 2010 10:50 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

This isn’t the Osi of a few seasons ago. Maybe it was the DC’s fault, but I don’t think he’s going to return to his old form.

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by WebBard on Jan 26, 2010 11:08 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

he also was coming off of major knee surgery

alot of us fans over in big blue land feel that the true Osi will be shown this year, whether thats good or bad. so its kinda hard to judge him on this season, when it is pretty much known that it takes a full season to round into form.

Couple things about Osi. he had his worse year of his career, that is true. that said, he still led his team in sacks, and was tied for the league lead in recovered fumbles. he also was up there in either QB pressures or hits( i forget which). Point being that although he had a down year, he wasn’t as bad as maybe the consensus makes him out to be.

At the end of the day however, i think it’d be a bad trade for you guys. i don’t think he’d fit well into a 3-4, he seems to me as a pure 4-3 player. i like Kerry Rhodes but i don’t like his drive. it seems that since his breakout season 2 years ago, he’s got his fame and fortune now, and is comfortable and in cruise mode. i wouldn’t want THAT Kerry on my team. if i were sure he’d revert back to 07-08 form, yeah, i’d trade Osi for him. We do have Kiwi still, and a still unproven now second year player in Sintim.

by wilddre22 on Jan 26, 2010 11:35 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I don't think Osi was 100% recovered from his knee surgery.

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by CasanovaWong on Jan 26, 2010 1:07 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

I've thought about it and you know what? HELL no.

Every time we’ve traded a talented young guy or let him go to another team after a disappointing season one way or another, it seems like they always blow up. Letting talent go is how the Jets stay the Same Ol’ Jets. We can’t let another Jonathan Vilma or John Abraham or Hugh Douglas or Aaron Glenn go like that.

With what Rex and Kerry had said about their meeting, it looks like Kerry’s on his way out, and that in my eyes is really unfortunate. When he ends up becoming Ed Reed somewhere else, I’m gonna hate myself for it but I’ll have to do it and tell everyone I f***in’ told you!

by Exystence on Jan 26, 2010 2:15 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

We didn’t have a choice with Aaron Glenn though, did we?

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by dvdvil on Jan 26, 2010 6:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

If we don't get rid of Rhodes when he has trade value

we’ll regret it down the road. I don’t think he’s lost in the system. I just think he’s mediocre.

by Bro Namath on Jan 26, 2010 5:22 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

He’s not that young, either.

by Bro Namath on Jan 26, 2010 5:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

i dont want that bum in my secondary. hes a scard little bitch! thats afraid 2 mess up his manicure

by Troy O on Jan 26, 2010 5:50 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

well said, most of the time whenever he makes big plays its because, his teammates set him up for it.

by LostOnRevisIsland24 on Jan 26, 2010 7:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

GREAT TRADE FOR THE JETS. Kerry is pretty boy bi***, he is afraid to make a big hit, too many arm tackles and he does not connect with Rex.

by jetsfan29 on Jan 26, 2010 7:46 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

I voted no

I didn’t like how he played in the first half of the season, but he has improved dramatically since then. Tons of blogs are thinking of Rhodes as a player to trade for, but I’ve seen no indication that he is actually being shopped. I’m a bit disappointed with Smith – it’s like the fire went out of him after he lost the starting job back to Rhodes. It’s true though that we aren’t very deep at safety.
As for Umenyiora, I don’t know him as a player well enough – I would like to see the Jets have a better pass rush and more sacks, but I’d be more inclined to draft a player for that purpose.

by Rabbit T on Jan 27, 2010 4:29 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

i say yes, Rex can make him go

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by jcgamble on Jan 27, 2010 7:57 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

Kerry said that he will be discussing his situation/future tonight on SNY

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by David_Wyatt on Jan 27, 2010 8:08 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

Personally

your GM should be fired if he ever makes this deal.

Osi would have no place in your system. As a Giants fan, the only reason I wouldn’t instantly take this deal is to see if I could fish something else out, maybe another draft pick or player.

This would be an average to good deal for the Giants, and a terrible deal for the Jets.

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by Willgfass on Jan 27, 2010 12:14 PM EST reply actions 0 recs