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Braylon: Attitude Was Lacking

Braylon Edwards said the Jets lacked attitude in the second half.

The Jets were outscored, 17-0, in the second half Sunday, and wide receiver Braylon Edwards believes "attitude" was the problem, whatever that means.

The Colts "went in at halftime and regrouped and came out with a different attitude and we didn’t," said Edwards, who caught an 80-yard scoring pass in the second quarter, but had only one reception other than that. The Colts’ secondary had problems covering the Jets’ receivers.

When asked if the Jets were too conservative on offense in the second half, Edwards replied, "We didn’t have the same attitude in the second half that we did in the first half. Take that for what it is. I don’t know. Interview the players and the coaches. I can’t speak for everybody, it just wasn’t the same."

 Braylon had a history of being a malcontent in Cleveland. I hope people don't blow a comment like this out of proportion in light of that. He's right. The Colts went out and totally outplayed the Jets in the second half. Something was there for Indy that wasn't there for New York.

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He is right they didn’t take any shots down the field in the second half. But he did drop a few passes also. Quick strikes against the Colts is not the way to go. You need to have long sustained drives. Once Greene went out, the offense was unable to do that. Even if they get a couple of deep passes. The secondary could not stop Garcon and Collie.

by chrebetsthebet on Jan 25, 2010 10:06 AM EST reply actions  

I wanted to say also that the Jets need a slot receiver. So they can send Edwards deep and work the stuff underneath like the Patriots do with Moss and Welker. I wonder why they never used Woodhead in this capacity. They should definitely target Golden Tate in the draft.

by chrebetsthebet on Jan 25, 2010 10:09 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree 100% with Braylon, especially when Greene went out, it seemed to deflate the whole team. I’m sure some people are going to have a problem with this, but he is just coming off a very bad loss, he probably had just left the locker room, and 100 journalists foaming at the mouth for a juicy comment shoved microphones in his face. He could of put it a little better, but personally I think he is right. We came out pretty flat, part of that was attitude, but part was Peyton taking the air out of us.

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by David_Wyatt on Jan 25, 2010 10:22 AM EST reply actions  

Agreed. I don’t have any problem with this. Losing Greene makes it hard to establish the run game but we still didn’t seem to have the same attitude on either side of the ball. First half we saw plays like Calvin Pace almost knocking Addai’s helmet off on the forced fumble. Second half i really did not see that kind of energy or attitude. Granted part of that is the Colts adjusting but still

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by blueandorange4life on Jan 25, 2010 10:24 AM EST up reply actions  

People who state honest opinions always get labeled as malcontents. Braylon was right, the Jets did look like a much different team after Greene went out. Thomas Jones is starting to look like Ladanian Tomlinson to me; a guy who just doesn’t have the explosiveness or cutting ability he used to.

Not to say it would have ended differently. But yaknow, a couple of missed field goals and your best rusher go down…shrug. We’ll be okay for next year.

by SioneBAAOOOHA on Jan 25, 2010 11:12 AM EST reply actions  

Edwards is right, we just didn't have the right attitude in the 2nd half

As for having this comment being blown outta proportion, I don’t think it will be, he didn’t take any personal shots or blame any of the coaches, he’s just frustrated as he very well should be after a difficult loss.

"We're only going to score 17 points?"

by Edgware on Jan 25, 2010 11:18 AM EST reply actions  

didn’t take any personal shots or blame any of the coaches

Yes he did.

After the game, Edwards hinted that he wasn’t pleased with the second-half play calling.
"I don’t call the plays," Edwards said. "I just run them….No disrespect, but you witnessed the game."

"I don’t dance too much." --Mike Holmgren

by johnnyphoenix on Jan 25, 2010 7:26 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree with you all, he was right in his assessment. The Colts went in at halftime and made the right adjustments targeting our depleted secondary and linebacker corps. We didn’t make any adjustments. When Greene went down, that was it. TJ is a stud and got the Jets to the post-season but he had over 300 carries during the regular season alone…..he just wore down. We all know ground and pound is our way but when you only have one back and key injuries on defense it won’t work. The only way we stood a chance was to open it up with the passing game that in turn would make it easier to run. We didn’t use the wildcat in the second half and for some reason we stink at screen plays but at least give it all you have to try and make it to the SB. Braylon was right.

by NYC KID on Jan 25, 2010 12:17 PM EST reply actions  

Anyone here ticked off that Ray Lucas and Adam Shine absolutely ripped Braylon a new one on Jets Postgame???

I certainly was. Hey Ray..SHUT YOUR HOLE,man. The Jets started playing MANGINA FOOTBALL once Green went down.

Sanchez could’ve thrown a bit more and Brad Smith & the Wildcat could’ve been used a bit more…. Face it, Ray, Braylon is 1000% right and :

Unlike YOU TWO, HE GETS IT.

YOU KNOW WHY? ’CAUSE HE WAS OUT THERE PLAYING WHILE YOU TWO WERE SITTING ON YOUR BUTTS DOING NOTHING BUT WATCHING THE GAME!!

Sorry for getting all emotional but I just wish that show allowed Callers to call Ray during the Broadcast. I guarantee that 95% of the Jets fans that call will Disagree with the Peanut Gallery.

by BNTHIS on Jan 25, 2010 1:38 PM EST reply actions  

HE GETS IT.

     What he ‘GETS,’ is that his mouth ‘GETS’ a whole lot more attention than his production does. Keep in mind, the ‘attitude’ thing is in no way anything he shouldn’t or couldn’t speak about… The "I don’t call the plays, I just run them….No disrespect, but you witnessed the game," has already made Schott and Sanchez have to address it publicly..and several more Jets too now, apparently. You think that isn’t divisive and uncalled for?
     Given his situation, and what the Jets accomplished this year.. he should he save his criticism for his teammates and his coaches privately. Braylon being Braylon should understand it’s not his place to comment on anything just yet.
      If he was truly so thankful to be brought there he could at least afford them that much respect and consideration. One would think keeping your mouth shut when you have it good is alot less difficult than opening it. Apparently not here.
      He just rode the coattails of a Jets team that overachieved because of attitude and TEAM play. Truly and honestly…do any of you Jets fans think that they would not be where they were without him?
 
No…and you shouldn’t.
    
     They played great, physical, team football on both sides of the ball…he was basically just window dressing…a piece to a much greater puzzle…and fans in New York were waiting to see how a very talented yet troubled player might do to get this team to the next level.
Yet now, without very much production at all… he feels entitled enough to speak out with some vague but clearly negative commentary on the coaching staff? That’s just selfish, uncalled for, and not going to win him any fans anywhere, much less in NEW YORK. If you’re gonna sing the praises of NY you damn well better understand that they don’t suffer fools lightly…and that you had better watch out if you’re gonna talk a good game and not bring one to the stadium on Sunday.
     That coaching staff believed in him regardless of public perception…and he just gave them the big ‘F*ck You…it’s still all about me and how you chose not to utilize me."

"I don’t dance too much." --Mike Holmgren

by johnnyphoenix on Jan 26, 2010 3:41 AM EST up reply actions  

Did you see his comments regarding how happy he was that he left Cleveland...

..and how he was on the Jets? remember that? I saw no “selfishness” there.

It’s nice that you neglected to recall that since the only thing you want to focus on is taking a comment he made following a very tough loss where he was frustrated and had a million microphones shoved in his face.

He KNOWS he’s blessed to be on a WINNING TEAM for a change. He’s not stupid. He’s just telling it like it is and if you’re going to sit there and tell me that you don’t think the team went into a shell in the 2nd half after Greene went down and played Mangina football the rest of the way, then I don’t know what you’re thinking, actually….

And WHERE THE HELL did he say that he was critical of the coaching staff? Vague?? Vague doesn’t mean jack. He was not pointing fingers but he was pointing out that things could’ve been done better. Sorry but he’s a Football player and he actually pulled his weight as a midseason pickup. He’s entitled to his opinion on the Team. Just like you and me are entitled to our opinion on this blog.

by BNTHIS on Jan 26, 2010 1:33 PM EST up reply actions  

one more thing...

You really believe that without him, the Running game would flourish as it did?

You think teams would fear Chansi Stuckey going deep instead of Braylon? HAH!

Every team would stack the box every stinking down!!! Give me a break….

Braylon brings a deep threat that all teams have to account for and yesterday was a Pure Example (80-yard TD Catch). And he is an outstanding blocker in the Run Game. I doubt Shonn Greene would be able to go all the way without Braylon taking his man out of the play…

Get over yourself, man and stop Hatin’ on Edwards. Jets and Sanchez are lucky to have this guy in exchange for some dead weight. He’s become worth a lot more to the Jets…

by BNTHIS on Jan 26, 2010 1:40 PM EST up reply actions  

You’re wrong. He was wrong to blame the coaching staff…and I’ll post it again so you can see it.

After the game, Edwards hinted that he wasn’t pleased with the second-half play calling.
"I don’t call the plays," Edwards said. "I just run them….No disrespect, but you witnessed the game."
 Both Jets quarterback Mark Sanchez and offensive coordinator Brian Schottenheimer said they thought an appropriate number of plays were called for Edwards, although Schottenheimer added that the Colts shifted their coverage to make it harder to get Edwards open deep.

If you can’t see that…or if you’re loyalty towards your team blinds you enough not to see right or wrong….fine. However I think he was wrong to go public with that. I do think most Jets fans would agree. That’s all I’m saying. I don’t think what I said was wrong or disrespectful.

"I don’t dance too much." --Mike Holmgren

by johnnyphoenix on Jan 26, 2010 3:58 PM EST up reply actions  

If you want to post a poll then fine…everyone knows I dislike Braylon intensely…However reagardless of that I still think he doesn’t have the right to say that given what’s occured. The Jets WOULD have gotten there without him.

"I don’t dance too much." --Mike Holmgren

by johnnyphoenix on Jan 26, 2010 4:00 PM EST up reply actions  

BNTHIS…

Ask them. ASK Jets fans if they agree.

"I don’t dance too much." --Mike Holmgren

by johnnyphoenix on Jan 26, 2010 4:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Look...first of all..

..just so you know, I reported one of your posts further down. There was no need to call me “an idiot”. That consititutes “attacking a poster” so don’t be surprised if you get a warning sooner or later.

But all that said, I should’ve checked your background to see that you are a Browns fan. If I had in the first place, I would’ve just ignored whatever you said. 95% of Cleveland probably hates Edwards….I wouldn’t be surprised. He was indeed a Malcontent there but you have to admit it wasn’t exactly a bed of roses playing for Mangina….Believe me. As a Jets fan that had to go through his horse-crud for 3 seasons(or was it two?), I know.

by BNTHIS on Jan 26, 2010 4:08 PM EST up reply actions  

I’ll leave after you post a poll….I don’t want this to turn into a ’he’s trolling’ thread…and I’ve WAAAY overstayed my welcome….so post it, then. I still say I wasn’t out of line. Read my posts.

"I don’t dance too much." --Mike Holmgren

by johnnyphoenix on Jan 26, 2010 4:10 PM EST up reply actions  

You were out of line when you insulted me, though...

You just pulled a “Braylon Edwards”!! Congrats! lol.

by BNTHIS on Jan 26, 2010 4:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah. Apologies for the ‘idiot’ comment.

Out of line.

"I don’t dance too much." --Mike Holmgren

by johnnyphoenix on Jan 26, 2010 4:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I mentioned I was a Browns fan and that I hated Braylon before though.

"I don’t dance too much." --Mike Holmgren

by johnnyphoenix on Jan 26, 2010 4:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Anyways…..‘perma-’ban’ me if you want…he was out of line.

"I don’t dance too much." --Mike Holmgren

by johnnyphoenix on Jan 26, 2010 4:37 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m not the moderator here, though.

sigh…..must be fun being able to ban trolls or whatever troublemakers coming here to stir up things…oh well.

Apology accepted, by the way. We can agree to disagree on Braylon. That’s about it.

by BNTHIS on Jan 26, 2010 10:19 PM EST up reply actions  

I guarantee that 95% of the Jets fans that call will Disagree with the Peanut Gallery.

I guarantee you just lost that guarantee.

"I don’t dance too much." --Mike Holmgren

by johnnyphoenix on Jan 26, 2010 4:00 AM EST up reply actions  

Post a poll then….May not be 95% but it sure as hell isn’t going to be a majority against Braylon either.

by BNTHIS on Jan 26, 2010 1:35 PM EST up reply actions  

I disagree. Being right doesn't mean its right to comment.

There were games that Sanchez lost all by himself this season, everybody knew it was his fault, yet you never heard anybody say, “Well if we had better QB play we probably don’t lose that one.” Just like after the Atlanta game nobody said, “Yeah if we were in man coverage Gonzalez probably doesn’t get that TD.” Just like none of his teammates or coaches took a swipe at HIM for dropping TD passes on several occasions during the season.

Just because he’s technically correct, it doesn’t make it right to comment. There’s just places you don’t go as a member of the team. Its wrong to take a swipe at your teammate(s) or coach. Its divisive.

by Crackback on Jan 25, 2010 1:49 PM EST reply actions  

Agreed. That’s something that he needs to bring up with Mark and the coaches, not the media.

And very good point that everybody stood up for him about his dropped passes in the past.

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by dvdvil on Jan 25, 2010 2:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Are you serious?

Think of the situation….It was immediately following the game. The Media stuck a bunch of Microphones in the his face after a heartbreaking loss. You think he was in his right mind to think about what POLITICALLY CORRECT thing to say at that point? Hell no. He was ticked off and he let loose what we all saw as THE TRUTH.

Whether he was out of line or not, he was right. Let’s not punish him for being right. Let’s punish him for dropping passes….He’s a football player, not a politician.

by BNTHIS on Jan 25, 2010 4:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Let’s take the painful 2005 loss to the Steelers for example. It would have been so easy to take a shot at Doug Brien, but none of the players did that, as far as I can remember. And I mean post-game before the flight home. Mike Westhoff, the special teams coordinator, was the only one who said Brien should have made the kick.

Other players meanwhile were saying things like, I could have made one more completion, I could have made an adjustment and caught one more pass, I could have gained one more yard.

Like Herm used to say, adversity doesn’t create character, it reveals it. And I do understand it was out of frustration, and I actually do like the guy, but it still doesn’t make it right.

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by dvdvil on Jan 26, 2010 1:07 PM EST up reply actions  

I had you until you quoted Herman Edwards...

that’s when I stopped reading and taking your post seriously.

You don’t think Players were cursing O’Brien for missing that kick?? They didn’t do it through the Media…that’s true. But that doesn’t mean they didn’t let him know about it in the Lockerroom just before the Cameras started rolling…

And again I say whether Braylon was out of line or not, he was 100% on the money. The Jets did not take advantage of a HOT Sanchez nor did they try and mix things up by using Brad Smith and the Wildcat a bit more to assist TJ in the Running game.

Schotty was caught with his pants down in this regard ’cause he had no PLAN B if something happened to Green or their Running Game was shut down for whatever reason.

by BNTHIS on Jan 26, 2010 2:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Think of the situation….It was immediately following the game. The Media stuck a bunch of Microphones in the his face after a heartbreaking loss

…that’s an excuse?

"I don’t dance too much." --Mike Holmgren

by johnnyphoenix on Jan 26, 2010 3:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Would you think straight if you were upset?

by BNTHIS on Jan 26, 2010 4:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Whatever you say..whatever you do…you’re wrong..and your own people will tell you so. How does that feel? To be SO wrong in what you believe in? It must be terrible.

"I don’t dance too much." --Mike Holmgren

by johnnyphoenix on Jan 26, 2010 5:57 PM EST up reply actions  

I feel shame for you…that’s it.. Pity, even.

"I don’t dance too much." --Mike Holmgren

by johnnyphoenix on Jan 26, 2010 5:57 PM EST up reply actions  

You believe what you want to believe...

That’s yours or anyone else’s perogative.

You say “Tomato”, I say “To-mah-to”.

But you didn’t answer my question, though….you merely deflected it and answered with a question of your own.

So let me ask you again before you start “pity-ing me” :

Would you think straight if you were upset? Yes or no?

I’m very interested in your reply….

by BNTHIS on Jan 26, 2010 10:27 PM EST up reply actions  

I guess I won’t get a reply ‘cause you got your butt banned….oh well. You would never answer the question anyway ’cause you know that if you say any answer other than “yes”, you’d be wrong.

Have fun talking about Mangina over there at the Cleveland BrownTurds website.

by BNTHIS on Jan 27, 2010 1:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Looks like you didn’t get banned…And you still haven’t answered the question. For someone who “claims” that he won the “argument” against me(whatever that means), you’re certainly avoiding this issue entirely. Gee…I wonder why? * rolls eyes *

by BNTHIS on Jan 29, 2010 12:48 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m not avoiding the issue…ANSWER THIS:

This is NOT a shot at the COACHING staff and this should be accepted just BECAUSE he’s ‘frustrated?’ There are a sh*tload of frustrated Jets and yet from what I’ve seen HE is the only one who felt the need to comment on it. “I don’t call the plays, I just run them….No disrespect, but you witnessed the game,”

What is that then? He was pissed, and he’s selfish…and not producing to the level of his talent. I just find it funny he’s holding hands and singing everyone’s praises and then he loses…as the TEAM did…and yet HE’S allowed to be frustrated enough to go tell the media….THAT’S f*cked up.

"I don’t dance too much." --Mike Holmgren

by johnnyphoenix on Jan 29, 2010 5:24 AM EST up reply actions  

I didn’t see or read anything about any other Jets shootin’ off at the mouth about it. They seemed proud of accomplishing what they did. WHICH they SHOULD. Braylon…as a new arrival and labeld as a malcontent…needs to sit down and shut up with his new team if he wants a future with them.

"I don’t dance too much." --Mike Holmgren

by johnnyphoenix on Jan 29, 2010 5:26 AM EST up reply actions  

“This is NOT a shot at the COACHING staff and this should be accepted just BECAUSE he’s ‘frustrated?’ "

Speaking without THINKING. It happens to the Best of us and to the Worst of us. Don’t tell me you’ve never in your life said something to someone without thinking it through first?

We’re only human, man. We all make mistakes…

The key is NOT to make the same mistake again or there WILL be problems. I hope Edwards realizes this for the near future…..

by BNTHIS on Jan 29, 2010 9:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Braylon, at some point....

You need to grow up. You’re a part of the team, as you were in Cleveland. This season allowed you the opportunity to man up, leave your baggage in Cleveland and start fresh here. You dropped a few passes, but no one skewered you for it. You were afforded every opportunity to make a positive impact on a young offense that could’ve used your experience.

But the Jets success this season is attributed largely to a team concept, and a team player knows when the time is right to voice your opinion (assuming it’s your place to voice them at all).

Rex did the best he could with the resources he had available. You are a part of this team, no more and no less. If you played for Bellicheat you’d have your walking papers today (or worse, have to wash his hoodies!).

The loss was tough on the whole team. But airing your opinion publically is not helpful. Unless you want a return ticket to Manginiusland.

by oldskooljet on Jan 25, 2010 2:18 PM EST reply actions  

But here's the rub....

Rex ALLOWS his players to speak their minds.

by BNTHIS on Jan 25, 2010 4:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Who are you to question what Braylon says?

Could he have been a bit more tactful in his response? Sure. But he had no chance of calming down from the emotions of not making it to the SuperBowl.

Oldskooljet, HE WAS 30 MINUTES AWAY FROM THE SUPERBOWL AND LOST THAT OPPORTUNITY!! You think he was thinking of Peace on Earth following that? Had they asked him the question the following day, I bet his answer would be the usual canned “Towing the company line” business that Ray Lucas seems so fond of.

But instead he gave us the god-awful Truth which Hurts ‘cause we as human beings can’t stand people who point out our faults for everyone to see….In the Words of Rex Ryan : TOO BAD

by BNTHIS on Jan 26, 2010 2:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Yup, I agreed with him 100 percent.

Didn’t think he meant to appoint blame, or throw anybody under the bus. You get these guys, 5 minutes after they just lost the biggest game they have ever played in and sometimes they say stupid things out of frustration. I don’t even think this was a case of saying something stupid, I thought it was fairly accurate and just got blown out of proportion. I absolutely want Braylon back.

"Relax, all right? Don't try to strike everybody out. Strikeouts are boring; besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. It's more democratic."
- CRASH DAVIS

by nrmax88 on Jan 25, 2010 4:23 PM EST reply actions  

Also, just a pet peeve here.

The Jets don’t run the wildcat. Brad Smith’s formation is not wildcat. Wildcat is when you have the top WR or RB coming in motion and you snap the ball right as he crosses the guy behind the center. Brad Smith’s package are simple direct snaps with Smith at QB. It isn’t wild cat. Just because a guy snaps the ball to a WR or RB doesn’t mean it is wild cat. Direct snaps are not the same as the wildcat.

"Relax, all right? Don't try to strike everybody out. Strikeouts are boring; besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. It's more democratic."
- CRASH DAVIS

by nrmax88 on Jan 25, 2010 4:29 PM EST reply actions  

^^^^THIS

also, if I ever hear the phrase “wildcat under center” ever again I swear I’m gonna punch a god damned hole through my TV screen

by Exystence on Jan 26, 2010 9:43 AM EST up reply actions  

I don’t think ol’ stone hands has much room to talk.

by KingRichard on Jan 25, 2010 4:29 PM EST reply actions  

The ‘attitude’ comment wasn’t too bad. He was right…I do find it strange Braylon of all people referring to ‘attitude.’

sometimes they say stupid things out of frustration.

Some more than others. You can make excuses for it…hell, fans in Cleveland did that for years….but speaking from experience the less he produces, the worse it will get. Plus, for how much he slobbered over the Jets and getting to the AFC championship, should he really have any room for frustration with anybody in that franchise? He should have still been thrilled to at least have been with a team and coaching staff that got him there in the first place since in Cleveland he “….didn’t see the playoffs on any horizon.”

The real problem is this:
 

After the game, Edwards hinted that he wasn’t pleased with the second-half play calling.
“I don’t call the plays,” Edwards said. “I just run them….No disrespect, but you witnessed the game.”
 Both Jets quarterback Mark Sanchez and offensive coordinator Brian Schottenheimer said they thought an appropriate number of plays were called for Edwards, although Schottenheimer added that the Colts shifted their coverage to make it harder to get Edwards open deep.

Typical Braylon statement, a bit vague...‘I didn’t get the ball enough. Blame the coaching staff. No disrespect intended…BUT here’s some disrespect."

"I don’t dance too much." --Mike Holmgren

by johnnyphoenix on Jan 25, 2010 5:53 PM EST reply actions  

Interesting observations..

So if they were shifting their coverage to make it harder to get edwards to go deep, then why not just run SLANT PATTERNS for him instead? It would’ve at least given the Jets a good shot at moving the chains and keeping possession?

Couldn’t Schotty have tried THAT at least? In my experience, if something you do doesn’t work, YOU TRY SOMETHING ELSE! It ain’t rocket science…geez.

They were many way they could’ve used Braylon to give the Jets a better shot. Remember when they would give keyshawn the Ball on an End around in the past? How about Giving BE the Ball on a running play to change things up a bit? There’s ANOTHER idea.

I came up with 2 more ideas than Schotty. Maybe I should be the OC….

by BNTHIS on Jan 26, 2010 2:14 PM EST up reply actions  

No. You’re an idiot.
Keep doing what you do…which is FAIL.

"I don’t dance too much." --Mike Holmgren

by johnnyphoenix on Jan 26, 2010 3:47 PM EST up reply actions  

attacking another poster. Should be perma-banned from here.

by BNTHIS on Jan 26, 2010 3:59 PM EST up reply actions  

What one teammate said

according to Cimini:

“Nobody said anything when he dropped passes. For him to throw Schotty under the bus is B.S.”

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by dvdvil on Jan 25, 2010 10:28 PM EST reply actions  

LINK??

Please post the link for this…

Plus, the fact that it’s Cimini already puts the article into question…

by BNTHIS on Jan 26, 2010 2:16 PM EST up reply actions  

How MANY times do I have to shove it in your face…Pathetic.

"I don’t dance too much." --Mike Holmgren

by johnnyphoenix on Jan 26, 2010 5:58 PM EST up reply actions  

If he's got something to say...

…He should say it to Braylon’s face instead of hiding who he is through the media.

And throwing Schotty under the bus, huh?

The Truth hurts, doesn’t it? Any GOOD OC would find other ways to get Edwards the ball in situations where the Cover-2 is used.

Ever heard of SLANTS and Short Crossing Routes??? If Schotty was thrown under the bus according to this chicken-of-a-player-who-does-not-want-to-be-identified then Schotty deserves the Criticism. He’s the OC. It’s his responsibility to put his offense in a position to succeed no matter what the circumstance.

He failed to do that. I mean Edwards with just 3 Passes thrown his way? You have to make adjustments in-game. He’s a big body that can break tackles and go for big gains….

Sorry but BE was right on the money.

by BNTHIS on Jan 26, 2010 2:26 PM EST up reply actions  

One last thing...

A few here say it’s bush-league what Edwards did…

…WHAT ABOUT THE “anonymous Jets Player” GOING TO THE MEDIA AND SAYING THIS??? Isn’t THAT out of line, too?

Shouldn’t THAT player have gone straight to Braylon and told him what he thought??

Exactly. Don’t be casting stones when your house is made of glass…..(don’t ask me what that means, it just sounds spiritual…lol)

by BNTHIS on Jan 26, 2010 3:03 PM EST up reply actions  

One last thing…

A few here say it’s bush-league what Edwards did…

Yep.

"I don’t dance too much." --Mike Holmgren

by johnnyphoenix on Jan 27, 2010 5:40 AM EST up reply actions  

Emphasis on "a few"...

Thanks for agreeing with me. BYE.

And you’re still not banned? wow. not much control on these boards….oh well.

by BNTHIS on Jan 29, 2010 12:23 AM EST up reply actions  

"Attitude" is a meaningless catch-phrase

It’s not like we wanted that win any less than the Colts did. Talking about attitude makes no sense. Talk about execution, about planning or play calling, about not figuring out how to stop the Colts’ threats or get into the end zone against their defense or bouncing back from bad breaks like Greene’s injury. Those are real issues.

by Rabbit T on Jan 26, 2010 6:26 AM EST reply actions  

What is "meaningless" is all this hoopla...

…regarding what Braylon said postgame. He was correct in his observation and the stats showed it. END OF STORY.

by BNTHIS on Jan 26, 2010 2:29 PM EST up reply actions  

You LOST. He was wrong. You OWN fans agree with ME. NOT you. Feel embarrassed, and shame…and move on…you lost.

"I don’t dance too much." --Mike Holmgren

by johnnyphoenix on Jan 26, 2010 6:00 PM EST up reply actions  

HE WAS RIGHT 1000%

Just ‘cause SOME Jets fans agree doesn’t mean MAJORITY rules, buddy.

Worst Case, it’s 50/50. Best Case, it’s about 85 to 90….though it’s most likely 65/35 with most fans Agreeing with Braylon’s viewpoint.

And I “Lost”? What about your Cleveland Browns? They “Lost” the moment Eric Mangina took the Coaching Job. You guys aren’t going to see the playoffs for a very loong time.

by BNTHIS on Jan 26, 2010 10:36 PM EST up reply actions  

by the way, 85 to 90 only referred to the percentage that supported Braylon…(in case you’re going to attack me for my math)

by BNTHIS on Jan 26, 2010 10:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh BTW,,since YOU, obviously, have nothing left to say I thought I’d leave something for ya …BNTHIS

"I don’t dance too much." --Mike Holmgren

by johnnyphoenix on Jan 26, 2010 6:10 PM EST up reply actions  

you've been reported

After apologizing for calling me an idiot, you post this.

Now I’m the one who “feels shame for you”. Goodbye.

by BNTHIS on Jan 26, 2010 10:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Cry a bit more…since you have no actual ARGUMENT.

"I don’t dance too much." --Mike Holmgren

by johnnyphoenix on Jan 27, 2010 5:37 AM EST up reply actions  

And what "argument" are you referring to?

You hate Braylon Edwards so whatever “Argument” you’ve got against him is colored with Biased-Hatred. You would think that him BREATHING is a felony Crime….

You’ve done NOTHING to disprove that Braylon’s complaint was incorrect. The only thing that was correct, in a way, was the TIMING of his saying that. Sorry but that’s not saying that he was wrong in what happened in the 2nd half, pal.

And “cry a bit more”, you say?

Let’s see :

Mark Sanchez, Braylon Edwards, NY Jets D, Running Game, Rex Ryan, Went to the AFC Championship game in First year…..

and compared to :

Derek Anderson/Brady Quinn, Chansi Stuckey, Cover-2, Mediocre Browns Running game, Eric Mangina, 5-11 Record…

Yeah….I’m the one who will be Crying a bit more….OUT OF LAUGHING SO FRIKIN’ HARD at the Browns crashing and burning again next year from the very first game onward. Thanks for the laugh..

by BNTHIS on Jan 29, 2010 12:43 AM EST up reply actions  

You’re talking about Jets/Browns? No one here is talking about Jets/Browns…I thought we we’re talking about whether BE was making a jab at the coaching staff or not….‘Attitude’ has nothing to do with it. He was right about that. I never said he wasn’t. I don’t really think I need to post AGAIN what he said about the coaching staff and why some of the Jets players responded as they did. GET the difference?!

"I don’t dance too much." --Mike Holmgren

by johnnyphoenix on Jan 29, 2010 5:20 AM EST up reply actions  

This blog/thread/whatever has run its course…..LAST WEEK.

It’s time to move on. We have Draft Talk to look into. And it’s going to be very tough with the Uncapped offseason approaching….

Good luck on your end, Johnny. I feel your team will need it.

by BNTHIS on Jan 29, 2010 9:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Dude…you own FANS hate you. How does THAT feel…

"I don’t dance too much." --Mike Holmgren

by johnnyphoenix on Jan 27, 2010 5:39 AM EST up reply actions  

You're STILL Here????

Don’t you have a life outside of the Internet? Holy crap! Go outside. Get a girlfriend(Rosy Palm does not count). Go to a movie. Something!! geez….

you always like to have the last word.

Well here’s my last word(s) : Braylon Edwards is Right. He plays the game. We don’t.

The End.

See ya!

(oh and if you respond again to this, then you truly have no life whatsoever)

by BNTHIS on Jan 29, 2010 12:28 AM EST up reply actions  

Man it feels great to dominate you so thoroughly…and I did it by reasoning with you and Jets fans…and you were left…with nothing. See ya.

"I don’t dance too much." --Mike Holmgren

by johnnyphoenix on Jan 26, 2010 6:01 PM EST reply actions  

The only thing you dominated was the realm of troll-dom...

I seriously wish I was the mod here…you would’ve been gone a long time ago.

by BNTHIS on Jan 26, 2010 10:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Actually…YOU might have been gone.

"I don’t dance too much." --Mike Holmgren

by johnnyphoenix on Jan 27, 2010 5:36 AM EST up reply actions  

If I was the mod, *I* would be gone???

Oookaaaaayy…….Is that the type of logic you developed in the Cleveland High School(or whatever school you dropped out of), buddy?

Wow…just…wow.

The fact that you haven’t been kicked out of here shows that ganggreennation needs a bit more help in this regard. But whatever…..your day is coming.

Anyway…I’m done wasting my time answering you in a blog from 3 days ago… My Jets have a Bright Future. Your Browns have no future with that Coach of yours. Enjoy mediocrity, phoenix boy.

by BNTHIS on Jan 29, 2010 12:33 AM EST up reply actions  

My Jets have a Bright Future. Your Browns have no future with that Coach of yours.

That’s called a ‘strawman.’ Making a statement that no one is refuting. Speaky Engrish? WE’RE not talking about the BROWNS…

"I don’t dance too much." --Mike Holmgren

by johnnyphoenix on Jan 29, 2010 5:33 AM EST up reply actions  

Uhh…Yes we are. Considering that :

A.) You hate Braylon Edwards (who was traded from the Browns to the Jets)

and

B.) You’re a member of almost everything Cleveland :

Indians

Cavaliers

Browns

Buckeyes

You know what, though? It doesn’t matter whether we’re discussing Edwards or the Browns… What matters is Next Football Season.

I’m finished here. Seriously. If you want to have the last word and bash me, go ahead. Talk to ya Next Season…

by BNTHIS on Jan 29, 2010 9:02 PM EST up reply actions  

This whole Braylon thing is blown waaaay out of Proportion....

Rex and company may not like it but hey….THE TRUTH HURTS, doesn’t it, Rex? You know and every Jets fan knows that your Offensive Coordinator did NOT do his job in making the adjustments when Green went down.

If you can’t get the ball deep to Braylon, get it to him on 10-yard Slants/Crossing Routes then. Use him in a running play for a change of pace. BE CREATIVE!! MOVE THE CHAINS!

And for this guy :

"One offensive teammate who didn’t want to be named rolled his eyes at Edwards’ comments and said the wide receiver didn’t have the “luxury” to question the play-calling.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/2010/01/26/2010-01-26_scoffs_at_braylons_beef.html

Why don’t you reveal who you are, Tough Guy? You obviously aren’t man enough to get in Braylon’s face to give your opinion on the matter so you go to the Media instead. Real Brave, man. Real Brave. * rolls eyes *

Everyone got on his case for saying stuff to the Media instead of keeping it in-house. What about THIS Clown who went to the media himself? Practice what you preach, coward.

by BNTHIS on Jan 26, 2010 10:44 PM EST reply actions  

By the way, johnnyphoenix...You wanted a "Poll", you said?

Here’s something better :

http://forums.theganggreen.com/showthread.php?t=53811

About 2-1 think Braylon was right in what he said. Now I bid you “Adios”.

by BNTHIS on Jan 26, 2010 11:10 PM EST reply actions  

Hmmm??? You replied to the above posts but not this one?

You just served, phoenix-girl. So nice to see you backpedaling…..

by BNTHIS on Jan 29, 2010 12:57 AM EST up reply actions  

just "got" served..

(there really should be an edit button installed on these blogs….geez.)

by BNTHIS on Jan 29, 2010 12:58 AM EST up reply actions  

or delete…in YOUR case.

"I don’t dance too much." --Mike Holmgren

by johnnyphoenix on Jan 29, 2010 5:34 AM EST up reply actions  

And once again...

…you have nothing to refute from the link I provided. Whatever, man.

Like I said above, I’m done here. Have the last word, or whatever….

Jets are on the rise and I couldn’t be happier.

And Braylone will be a major part of the winning equation in the coming years….

by BNTHIS on Jan 29, 2010 9:05 PM EST up reply actions  

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