This Week's Flashbacks
by John B on Jan 19, 2010 7:45 AM EST
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PrintThis week you'll hear the media beat reflections of two games from the past into the ground. Save yourself the time, avoid newspapers, television, and radio, and just remember these two games of significance.
Game 1: In Week 16 of this season, the Jets beat the Colts. Indianapolis pulled its starters with a 15-10 lead halfway through the third quarter. It ended Indy's perfect season. Gang Green used it as a springboard to a surprising run to this week's AFC Championship Game.
Game 2: The last time the Jets and Colts met with a championship on the line was Super Bowl III. The Colts were heavy favorites then as they are now. Joe Namath guaranteed victory, and delivered as New York pulled a stunning 16-9 upset in one of the most significant games in pro football history. The Jets haven't been back to the Super Bowl since. Another win over the Colts will put them back for the first time in 41 years.
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The Colts didnt try in week 16
You didnt get the memo? ; )
They just laid down and died. Even though they played peyton 3.5 quarters. Didnt even show up, was tired of being undefeated.
Those damn undeserving jets shouldnt even be here!
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2.5 but yeah >_>
I mean, when they took Peyton out they were just BLOWING the Jets out 15-10. What an INCREDIBLY HUGE MARGIN to overcome mirite guys!
Considering your team averaged just over 20 points/game...
…yeah, that’s a pretty tall order (especially considering minus your last two games of the season, that ppg avg. is around 18). Or do you think that the 29 and 37 points you put up against teams that rolled over so you could get into the playoffs are exceptions which prove the rule of Jets offensive dominance?
I’m not saying it wasn’t a close game, but how can you hang your hat on a game in which the other team didn’t just throw in the towel halfway through the third quarter, but also several other starters on both sides of the ball didn’t even play a single snap?
I Bleed Blue! Go Colts!
by Mr. Indianapolis Colts on Jan 19, 2010 9:53 AM EST up reply actions
How can you take away from us a game that we had no control over, you made your decisions, we did what we had to do. However you don’t know you were going to win that game, not saying that because we won that one we are winning this one, but we will stay with you, and if you are one of those fans like San Diego had, who think you are putting up 30 points on us without us scoring hardly any then you are very mistaken, and haven’t watched any Jets football this year.
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by David_Wyatt on Jan 19, 2010 10:03 AM EST up reply actions
I was shocked, impressed and ecstatic (in that order) when your Jets beat the Chargers. But I also think that the Bolts were overrated too: They play in the 2nd worst division in the entire league, Rivers is a hack who wouldn’t put up nearly the numbers if he didn’t have the league’s tallest receiving corps, and LT is over the hill and not coming back.
The Colts are better than the Bolts across the board, just like you said you’re better than the Ravens across the board. The difference in this game won’t just be home field, playing all our starters (the whole game), Peyton Manning or any of his offensive weapons. It will be who steps up and wants it more.
The Jets are already playing with house money, and on borrowed time. They’ve got nothing to lose, they’ve got no pressure. The Colts have everything to lose and all the pressure, and believe me when I say they will be more than ready on Sunday. They may not put up 30+ points, but they will put up enough to win. It might be close for a half or 3 quarters, but we have just too many weapons, too many ways to win the game, and Revis can’t cover everyone.
I Bleed Blue! Go Colts!
by Mr. Indianapolis Colts on Jan 19, 2010 10:31 AM EST up reply actions
You will forgive me when I say that we have heard this more times than we care to remember, you have faith in your team like you should, we have faith in our team like we should. We have no reason not to, just like your offence is not made up of just Peyton, our defence is not just made up of Revis. Like your receiving core is not just made up of Wayne, our secondary is not just made up of Revis.
Read what the Chargers fans said last week, it is nearly word for word what you just said, just replace the Chargers being over rated with the Bengals being over rated. So I doubt you will convince many people here.
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by David_Wyatt on Jan 19, 2010 10:39 AM EST up reply actions
The Bolts are better at every offensive position except QB.
And last I checked their QB is no slouch. For all of Peyton’s greatness, he’s only 8-8 in the playoffs and has had some of his worst games in the post-season. We have the best LBs and secondary in the game and if Rex can break down your protection scheme its gonna be a long day.
The Colts are not a juggernaught. They’ve played a ton of close games this year and the ball (and calls) has gone their way. They’ve won games they shouldnt have (eg Miami) and thumbed their noses at history. The yin always yangs and we will be there when it does.
But the Bolts aren't better at all offensive postions except QB...
Addai had more rushing yards, receiving yards, total TDs and TD passes than LT this season.
Wayne had more Receptions, TDs and receiving yards than VJax.
Clark had more receptions and TDs than Gates (and only 51 fewer rec. yards 1106 to 1157).
Garcon had nearly identical rec. yards (765) with Malcolm Floyd (776), but had more receptions and TDs overall.
Collie had more Rec. yards (676) and TDs (7) than whoever was the 4th option on the Bolts.
The Chargers have a better Kicker and Returner. Everything else points to the Colts being better on offense. Check the facts.
I Bleed Blue! Go Colts!
by Mr. Indianapolis Colts on Jan 19, 2010 11:48 AM EST up reply actions
Stats mean less than the eye-test.
Having seen both teams, the Bolts are much more explosive IMO. The Colts stats are inflated by Peyton’s regular season greatness. They wouldnt have stats near those they have with the Colts if they played with another QB.
PPG average
What did the ravens avg ppg-wise when they won the superbowl?
Do you watch football? Smash-mouth football isnt aesthetically appeasing, but it wins championships.
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The Ravens averaged 20 points also...
…but they also had one of the best defenses of all time, posting 4 shutouts and allowing only 10 ppg the entire season.
You guys have a great defense too, but you’re not quite at that level. That was one of the only teams in NFL history to win a Super Bowl with defense alone.
I Bleed Blue! Go Colts!
by Mr. Indianapolis Colts on Jan 19, 2010 10:16 AM EST up reply actions
14.8 points a game is nothing to turn your nose up at though. Allowing that many points per game is good enough to win a superbowl with defence, especially when you have a ground game like we have.
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by David_Wyatt on Jan 19, 2010 10:20 AM EST up reply actions
Also, it’s pretty funny how the Jets apparently need an all-time greatest ever type of defense to compete with the Colts this year. The Colts have an elite passing offense, not an all-time greatest ever one.
So the 2nd greatest season by one of the best, if not the best, QB ever..
…means nothing? Peyton passed for the 2nd most TDs in his career, the 2nd highest yardage total, and the most-ever 300-yd games, and he could’ve put up better numbers if the Colts don’t pull their starters.
Yes, the Jets will need an all-time elite defense to show up on Sunday to compete. Not to win. Just to compete.
I Bleed Blue! Go Colts!
by Mr. Indianapolis Colts on Jan 19, 2010 11:53 AM EST up reply actions
I love the arrogance.
Please come back on Monday for your dose of medicine.
His QB rating wasn’t even over 100 and he threw 16 interceptions in essentially 15 games, which is just 4 more than Sanchez in the same amount of starts…
Absolutely hilarious...
“His rating wasn’t even over 100”…OK, it was 99.9.
If your point by mentioning the 16 INTS was trying to illustrate Peyton’s arm lacking accuracy, considering the following: Do you know what’s the weirdest thing about all those INTs? Peyton also threw for the highest completion% of his career, and nearly broke the NFL record for completion percentage. Accuracy wasn’t his issue; dropped/deflected passes were.
Peyton shouldn’t have had 16 INTs, due to the fact that 7-8 of those were a result of tipped passes and bad luck.
But you can have that stat if you want, I know how much you like seeing Sanchez and Manning mentioned in the same sentence.
I Bleed Blue! Go Colts!
by Mr. Indianapolis Colts on Jan 19, 2010 2:40 PM EST up reply actions
I was trolling but...
Yeah Manning has been phenomenal this year and I’ll take any comparison I can get between him and Sanchez.
That said, at least I’m not under the illusion that my QB is infallible. Every QB has tipped passes that turn into interceptions and whatnot. But even still, more often than not a ball that is tipped or dropped and then intercepted is not gonna be the super-easiest, most well-placed throw ever. He’s not perfect; in fact just this past Saturday he could very well have let the Ravens back in it if they don’t shoot themselves in the foot as they’ve been doing all year long. Shit happens.
I give the Colts all the respect in the world, and Peyton Manning is perhaps the worst enemy our defense could possibly face, but dude… Against the other two of the top 3 QBs and passing offenses in the league:
- Drew Brees put up 10 points on us. It was his 2nd worst game statistically all year. The points they got were pretty much gift-wrapped that game for them by Mark Sanchez, and he doesn’t do that anymore.
- Rivers mustered 14 on a day where he actually was playing just about as good as he could have outside of one throw that in all likelihood wasn’t his fault. And actually, we got hosed out of more points because that Jim Leonhard FF and subsequent FR in SD’s territory was inexplicably ruled an incompletion.
Manning isn’t going to get the same looks that he got the first time around. Plus, you guys put up just 20 points with Manning throwing 44 passes on the Ravens despite being gifted two negated (well, one was essentially negated with the subsequent fumble) interceptions. I admit I didn’t really watch most of the game, and I know Ed Reed is a great player and has been Manning’s kryptonite, but dang.
Bengals didn't try neither
I’m sure that whatever the result is… at the end manning is going to wish that the colts ended that 1.5 quarters complete that to have played against the jets D again.
it is our time to thank your couch and him personally for the opportunity. Go jets!
by old mcdonald on Jan 20, 2010 6:18 PM EST up reply actions
Bengals didn't try neither
I’m sure that whatever the result is… at the end manning is going to wish that the colts ended that 1.5 quarters complete that to have played against the jets D again.
it is our time to thank your couch and him personally for the opportunity. Go jets!
by old mcdonald on Jan 20, 2010 6:19 PM EST up reply actions
So far I have already heard a ton of talk about week 16, how the Colts created a monster that could destroy them etc etc etc…..
Colts didn’t create anything, Rex did, now it’s time to show them that we can beat the best to be the best.
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Nitpicker's alert
The score of SB III was 16-7, not 16-9. Don’t make me force you to watch Al Woodall films. :)
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Why were the Jets 9-7 in the regular season?
- Defense, #1 Running game = 9-7
I didn’t get to see many Jet games so fill me in.
Everyone else can feel free to add on or correct, but part of it was Sanchez
The Saints game, for instance. The difference was an interception returned for a TD and a Fumble in the end zone by Sanchez. During the stretch where we were 1-6 he tried to force a lot of throws that he shouldn’t, didn’t protect the ball well, and threw picks that could have been avoided. He has drastically improved since then, is making better and smarter throws, and most importantly is not trying to force throws into coverage nearly as much. He’s not perfect; witness the pick he threw yesterday, but since that stretch we are 7-1. Make of that what you will.
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by blueandorange4life on Jan 19, 2010 12:31 PM EST up reply actions
Pretty much what he said, we tried to do too much with Sanchez, when your QB throws 5 interceptions and you are still a holding call away from winning a game like we were against Buffalo, you know we have a few things going for us. Add the interceptions/mistakes against NE and the Saints, and we missed 3 FG’s against the Falcons. The record is very deceiving like San Diego found out. This is a much different team than the one that went 1-6 mid season. Growing pains by the QB mostly, with some costly errors by special teams etc.
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To you as well
should be an interesting game
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by blueandorange4life on Jan 20, 2010 10:32 AM EST up reply actions
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