Darrelle Revis Doesn't Win Defensive MVP
by dvdvil on Jan 12, 2010 11:08 AM EST
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PrintPackers CB Charles Woodson wins AP's Defensive Player of the Year.
He doubled the number of votes for New York Jets cornerback Darrelle Revis in becoming the first Green Bay winner since Reggie White in 1998 and just the second Packer in the 36-year history of the award.
Woodson, the 1997 Heisman Trophy recipient, is the first cornerback chosen top defensive player since Deion Sanders in 1994.
He got the honor in great part because of the way he anchored a defense in transition. Woodson was used in a variety of ways by new defensive coordinator Dom Capers as Green Bay made the switch to a 3-4. At times, the unit was shaky— except for Woodson, who played the role of cover cornerback, blitzer, run-stuffer and ballhawk.
In his third season, Revis established himself as the league’s premier cornerback, taking away such prime threats as Steve Smith, Randy Moss, Andre Johnson, Terrell Owens, Chad Ochocinco and Marques Colston. He had six picks, returning one for a TD.
I think this is a travesty, and obviously the voters simply looked at the numbers without actually analyzing game film. Woodson was badly burned in his team's playoff game, while Revis had an interception and helped his team move on to the next round.
Personally, I think part of it is also Woodson being older and voters figuring Darrelle has more chances in the future.
Revis is the epitome of a shutdown corner. With another playoff game coming up and the nation's undivided attention, do you think this will give him added motivation to show the league why he is the best?
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DOUBLED!!!!!
Thats shameful. These guys watched no film. Works in our favor this weekend though. Take it out on the field Darrelle. Show the world and blank Jackson.
Apparently NFL writers wanted to prove MLB writers aren't the only idiots out there
Whatever. We all got the privilege of watching Revis this year and that’s enough for me
Take the award with a grain of salt...
Much like the offensive MVP awards, they are more about hype than actual merit. As a Packer fan, I am happy for Woodson as he has had a great season, but who can argue about Revis being the best cornerback in football right now. Numbers tell it all: This guy can completely take out of the game the opposing QB’s best weapon.
I think Revis will win the award very soon. He is a major force and with definitely shut down Vincent Jackson too. Too bad that the Chargers have a few Jacksons and the Jets don’t have enough Revis-es. Good luck though…
by Rodgers_for_MVP on Jan 12, 2010 11:32 AM EST reply actions
Adam Schefter on twitter:
And right there is the ultimate proof as to why it would be better to wait until the end of the season before voting on these awards.
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Watched that game and his cover skills are not even half what Revis’s are.
Wouldn’t want to be Vincent Jackson this week
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by David_Wyatt on Jan 12, 2010 11:55 AM EST up reply actions
A few years from now
Revis’ skills will start diminishing, as it does with all great players. And yet he will win awards solely based on on his name and past accomplishments. And some people on some other team will say that it isn’t fair and that their player should have won the award.
Not to take anything away from Woodson, he is and more importantly has been throughout his career a great player. But let’s face it these awards have a good concentration of popularity votes attached to them.
Everything evens out in the end
These sports writers don’t know shit, why not let people who actually understand the game like coaches vote for this award. if they had, no way Woodson walks away. Like Rex said, the 14 that voted Revis are the people who actually understand football.
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These are regular season awards. And if you saw some Packer games you would see how dominant CW was this year. He is the main reason for the turnaround from bottom 5 to top 5 defense this year. And to give him credit for sunday, his strip in the 2nd Q prevented AZ from going up 24-0. Woodson deserves this award hands down since he shut down receivers and did much more in addition to it as well.
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If Woodson is asked to cover the receivers one on one that Revis has had to cover this season, he wouldn’t even be in the discussion. Absolute shambles of a choice.
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by David_Wyatt on Jan 12, 2010 12:05 PM EST up reply actions
Yes Revis shut down the best and any other year he would win. Not this year because Woodson shut down other top WRs and did so much more in blitzing, tackling, fumbles, creating chaos and completely taking over games. Its “Most Valuable Player” and CW is easily the most valuable as the GB defense would be a shell of what it is if he were not there. And mind you, this all comes with Al Harris missing the entire second half of the season.
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CW wasn’t even close to Revis this season, sorry.
Darrelle Revis once won a game of Connect Four in three moves.
Like Gruden just said on ESPN, Revis takes away half the field. That’s more important than causing a couple of fumbles. QB’s completed over 50% of their passes into Woodson’s coverage, 30% into Revis’s and he was targeted far more. Only Green Bay fans think Woodson deserved this award.
Watching him get burned on Sunday, that’s not what a defensive player of the year does.
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watch those plays again & tell me Fitzgerald doesnt absolutely run right through him. Moss did it earlier in the day and got flagged.
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One of them he did, but sorry to say that happens to most corners in the league, go back and watch Jets games this season, particularly the two games he shut Moss down and you will see exactly the same.
Not only did he win it which is one of the biggest snubs in a long time, but he doubled the votes of Revis? that’s just a bigger slap to the face of the main component on the best pass defence in the league.
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by David_Wyatt on Jan 12, 2010 12:19 PM EST up reply actions
The point is that that doesnt happen to Revis.
Revis manhandles everybody he faces. He has yet to lose a physical battle.
He is yet to lose any battle. Just saying that receivers are as physical as you can get with him and he still shuts them down.
This award was given based on a career and not the season.
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by David_Wyatt on Jan 12, 2010 12:29 PM EST up reply actions
Only one thing to say on this and that’s it;s disgraceful. The sack/ff numbers won him the award, and Revis would have the same if he blitzed as well, unfortunately he is too busy shutting down every good receiver in the game. Woodson is a great player, but Revis is a big reason why this is the best defence in the league. Massive snub.
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Hey guys, congrats on your win over Cincy 2 weeks in a row, too bad we couldn’t pull it off against AZ. Perhaps another perspective can be brought into this voting. I can assure you Darrelle Revis does have the respect he deserves. The best cornerback at this point is a tie between Oakland’s Asomugha and NY’s Revis. There is no doubt that Revis can lock down any WR a lot better than what Woodson can. However, Woodson is perhaps the most versatile CB in the game as he played CB, slot CB, Safety, and blitzed often. He does have the title of shutdown corner, although he isn’t as good as Revis. To Woodson’s defense though, he did earn the Defensive Player of the Month 3 of the 4 months, so it would be contradicting to give the yearly award to a different player.
The Defensive Player of the Year is based off an entire year, not one game. He did give up 2 TD’s to Fitz, both of which he was unfortunately pushed off on, but hey, that comes with the game, so I won’t complain. He also forced a fumble that helped get us into the game. Therefore, it’s tough to say just how good or bad he did against Fitz. Other than that game though, I can’t think of any other that he gave up 2 TD’s. He has had a great year. I don’t even think his sacks were included in the article for his award.
I will say this though, Darrelle Revis will have a better career than Woodson at his current pace. He is no doubt an amazing cover corner, it’s just that Woodson performed numerous roles that made him far more versatile, which is why he won it respectively.
Good luck to your Jets the rest of the way. I’m hoping you guys make it to the Super Bowl simply because that would be the ultimate slap in Brent (we’ll never forget you) Favre’s face. He left you because you guys were supposedly not Super Bowl contenders. Send it back to his face Jets. I will chant it with you this postseason….J-E-T-S, Jets, Jets, Jets!!!!!
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Revis got beat for 2 TDs over the entire season.
One was arguably zone coverage where he passed off Ginn and Ginn was never picked up.
The other was a quick snap inside the 5 from Brady to Moss.
He was assigned the opponents best receiver in every game and shut him down in every game. Guys that are normally double-covered by most defenses are disappeared by Revis all by his lonesome.
He allows us to blitz safeties and roll coverages to #2 threats. His impact on games are unmatched by any other player, except QBs.
Not to mention that he is the best player on the best defense in the league.
Woodson is a compiler. The Arizona game prooved that. He gets a strip but got manhandled for 2 TDs. The strip meant nothing. If he prevents even 1 of the 2 TDs the Packers are in the next round.
The Defensive Player of the Year Award is for best "defensive" player
It doesn’t specify best CB. Revis is by far a better cover corner, I can’t argue against that, but Woodson has done far more in his numerous roles to earn that award. That is why he won it by a large margin.
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They still both played the same amount plays, just because he does more positions doesn’t mean a damn thing.
Darrelle Revis once won a game of Connect Four in three moves.
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It's really not even close
To give it to Woodson because of fluky circumstances out of his control (return yardage after picks) is ridiculous.
Revis locked down better receivers in straight man coverage, which allowed the Jets to blitz and have the best defense in the league. He also had 13 more passes defensed than Woodson.
Does anyone know where I could find the amount of penalties committed by Woodson as opposed to Revis? Woodson is good for at least one big PI call a game.
Any word on if Woodson has gotten up from the Arizona turf after repeatedly being put on his ass by Fitzgerald?
I could be wrong on that
I watch the Packers a lot with Sunday Ticket (Rodgers in fantasy) and I just seem to recall him getting called for a fair amount of penalties. I’ve tried to find those numbers online, but can’t track them down.
Either way, I’ll take Revis
by Bieser's Balk on Jan 12, 2010 12:13 PM EST up reply actions
Can Woodson do what Revis does?
Can Revis do what Woodson does?
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No
Probably
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by David_Wyatt on Jan 12, 2010 12:38 PM EST up reply actions
No way
Although both are shutdown CB’s, Revis is a better cover corner, but Woodson is far more versatile. They almost play different roles to the point you can’t even compare the 2.
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Your right. They're incomparable.
Woodson is just not on Revis’ level.
If you have the best shutdown corner in football, why would you use him in other positions?
Darrelle Revis once won a game of Connect Four in three moves.
woah, woah, woah
I never said Woodson was the best shutdown corner. where the heck did you find that? I simply said they play different roles.. i said Revis is a better cover corner, but Woodson provides more versatility. He performs in a lot of different roles. Obviously, that was the clear reason he won. Never did I ever say Charles Woodson is the best shutdown corner.
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Revis was robbed. Maybe it’ll piss him off to the point where he’ll play even better! Charger receivers will pay the piper this weekend ! J-E-T-S Jets, Jets, Jets !
This D is a tight unit, one of them is pissed off, they are all pissed off, probably the worst thing that could of happened for Chargers fans
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by David_Wyatt on Jan 12, 2010 12:54 PM EST up reply actions
Other than Rivers getting snubbed the same way?
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by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Jan 12, 2010 12:54 PM EST up reply actions
How so? Manning had a much better year than Rivers.
Andf i take it back that Rivers had a better year than Brady. Their numbers are comparable.
Numbers?
Sheesh. Did you see how many times Rivers moved his team up and down the field but had an LT or Sproles to hand it to to get the TD? Or how many times he would get his team up so big they would just run and run and not worry about the pass? Rivers was way better than Manning. Please know the game, not the numbers.
Now for next week, it is time for the Jets to get rolling!
Rivers is WAY better than Manning???
All I can say is, WOW.
He said "was," as in this year. And in that he's right.
If you just look at 2009 (or for that matter 2008-09), PR is easily the best QB. He led his team through the loss of its Center, Nose Tackle and backup NT, with a rookie RG who had no experience run-blocking, and sporadic injuries to the RB, RT, RG, and the whole DL, maintaining the league’s best YPA (8.7) and a TD:Int ratio better than 3:1, plus the fourth-best scoring offense despite a 3.3 YPC on the ground.
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by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Jan 12, 2010 2:43 PM EST up reply actions
Three sentiments
1) Revis got robbed. We Philip Rivers fans know exactly how you feel. But for a young guy, getting any votes at all says the same thing about him as earning the award does, especially when it goes to an old guy whose season was ever-so-slightly inferior.
2) “More than doubled” don’t mean nothin’. Either you won, or you got one or more votes, or you didn’t get any votes like the other 850 defenders in the league.
3) They should announce all of this stuff after the SB, even if all the votes are in after the regular season.
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by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Jan 12, 2010 12:54 PM EST reply actions
I say 3) because I agree with you: Revis will be a beast on Sunday. Especially if VJ is still limping. I still think you guys are going up against a juggernaut and will get beat, but I think it’ll be a game, more a fight than a steamrolling. I’d take y’all against the spread.
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by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Jan 12, 2010 1:01 PM EST up reply actions
I hop your right CB, but as good as we are, I can’t logically see us keeping them to 10 points, we need to score 20 to win this game. 24-21 Jets win.
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You give them too much credit.
Dallas held them to 20, Oakland 24, Giants 21. We are a much much better defense than those teams.
We were held to 16 by the Bills and 7 by the Falcons, moral of the story a select few games don’t make a unit.
I’m just balancing your comments out lol
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If VJack is hobbled as he says, and if they refuse to run on us...
We won’t give up points. Most of the games we’ve had trouble defensively is where teams were able to run on us and keep us off balance. Even the Saints, when they were at their offenseive best, didnt throw well on us. They beat us with the run game and Sanchez.
If they do run the screen better than anyone in the league, when did we start being able to shut that down? we are aggressive, and Pace over pursues constantly. Not ready to say we are going to shut them down
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I dont remember getting gashed by screens in eithe NE game.
I do remember Welker working us to death underneath in the 2nd game and Maroney pounding us up the middle.
NOBODY has held SD below 20 this season.
Too many weapons.
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by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Jan 12, 2010 2:44 PM EST up reply actions
Seems like a streak thats ripe to fall.
Seems like the perfect defense to do it. Im sure the two-week layoff, the adrenaline from post-season play, and the pressure from past playoff failure in front of a crowd expecting to win won’t aid in your team’s rhythm and continuity.
Rivers used to be rattle-able, but now he just flows. It’s really quite impressive how much better a player he is now than just last year, when he was also really good.
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by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Jan 12, 2010 3:04 PM EST up reply actions
BOOOOOO
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GB gave up 500 yds passing to Steelers and 400 & 5 TDs to Warner. Revis had a dream season, and was widely proclaimed by the talking heads as the best corner in league for the past 7-10 weeks as the season unfolded. Moss twice, Ocho twice, T.O twice, more passes defended, the same no of ints., about the same number of tackles. Jets scheme
doesnt call on him blitz and force fumbles. Woodsons body of work, before he loses a step after 10 years in the league, got him the vote, but two to one is a miscarriage. Typically Linebackers and Lineman get this honor. Revis at this point is about to become wealthier than his wildest fantasy, and probably along with Sanchez become a media darling in the Big Apple, currently owned by Eli. Im sure he would trade this award for
3 more wins anyday.
by sudden death overtime on Jan 12, 2010 1:54 PM EST reply actions
If you asked
all the premier receivers to vote on who was the best shutdown corner in the league Revis would be their answer. He literally had Johnson, Moss, Owens, Colston, Ocho, etc, frustrated beyond belief. Almost to the point of talking to themselves to try and get something done. The sportswriters and so-called ANALysts are not a student of the game, and of course the anti-Jet sentiment from the Joe Willie era will ALWAYS be in effect…
“I think this is a travesty, and obviously the voters simply looked at the numbers without actually analyzing game film. Woodson was badly burned in his team’s playoff game, while Revis had an interception and helped his team move on to the next round.”
this is a misleading statement
Revis had at least 3 penalties against him in his game
Woodson was knocked over on the two touchdowns that Fitzgerald caught (no penalty called for offensive pass interference)
and on the list of Revis’ “shut down players” i dont see Fitzgerald
and these awards are based on the regular season anyways… not the playoffs
Revis's penalties
Thanks to a terrible announcing crew, we didn’t get the benefit to analyze those.
A couple of them seemed like offensive pass interference, too.
If you look at the previous game with Cincy, Ocho was holding him plenty there too.
Revis has had WRs hold him and Revis is the one who gets flagged for it.
But even when that’s happened, Revis actually stayed on his feet.
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Revis gave of 2 catches for 28 yards while playing soft zone in a prevent defense.
Cincy’s best receiver had ZERO catches until the late 4th quater when Rex pulled Revis off to overprotect against a deep ball.
If Revis gives up 2 TDs a la Woodson, the Jets are home right now.
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