Mount Jackson vs. Revis Island
by John B on Jan 12, 2010 9:00 AM EST
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The Post takes a look at one of the key matchups Sunday.
Jackson not only hooked up with Philip Rivers for 68 catches, 1,167 yards and nine touchdowns this year, but he did all of that in 15 games, having sat out the Chargers' final contest. And the biggest thing about Jackson is his mammoth size. He goes 6-foot-5, 230 pounds -- he'll tower over the 5-foot-11 Revis.
Revis has faced big receivers this year -- and he has more than held his own. The Patriots' Randy Moss is 6-4, 210 pounds. The Texans' Andre Johnson is 6- 3, 225. Buffalo's Terrell Owens? He goes 6- 3, 224. And the Saints' Marques Colston is listed at 6-foot-4, 225.
Revis has starred all season for Gang Green, and the Defensive Player of the Year candidate then starred in his first career postseason game on Sunday.
Revis was called for a few penalties while guarding Cincinnati's Chad Ochocinco, but he held him to two catches for 28 yards. He also picked off a pass that led to a Jets touchdown.
Asked afterwards whether he'd rather play the Colts or Chargers, Revis said: "Doesn't matter. We can't predict that. Whoever they schedule us to play, we've gotta go play 'em."
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I like how Revis did not complain after those bad calls against him. I hope the young up and coming football players watch and learn. No matter what sport it is, the official can not change a call because you don’t like it. So why waste energy crying, just line up and do what you do.
by BIG OH!!!!! on Jan 12, 2010 9:23 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Actually,
the officials do change calls that players in the NFL don’t like, and they do it with alarming frequency. Every single play that there is an incomplete pass, the receiver gets up, looks around, throws the imaginary flag, and just about half the time the official follows him with a real flag. It is absolutely mind boggling how much it happens. Or how about when Tom Brady takes a hit, falls on his back, looks at the ref with his hands spread, and Mr. Official obliges him with a roughing the passer call. It literally happens all the time, it is amazing.
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by nrmax88 on Jan 12, 2010 6:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Caldwell did exactly that on the illegal contact penalty on Revis, even though he pushed off on him. Pretty sure there was no flag until he turned around and started waving his hands like he was hailing a cab.
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by David_Wyatt on Jan 12, 2010 7:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
All season I’ve looked at the height of CBs on the upcoming opponents for the Chargers and can usually predict big days or not for Jackson and Floyd. Neither do as well against CBs that are 6’1" or taller (Asomugha fits that bill). However, I’m not going to pretend that Revis is any other CB.
I think the height will play a factor in that matchup, but it’ll play a bigger factor in the Floyd-Sheppard matchup. Lito gives up 7 inches to Floyd, and that’s before you start factoring in Malcom’s incredible wingspan. I remember Lito getting attacked by the Giants, and Plaxico Burress, when he was a Eagle. Any time they saw that match up they would just throw the jump ball. I imagine the Chargers will do the same.
One of the things that’s never mentioned about the Charger receivers is how smart they are. Rivers is not afraid to throw a jump-ball to them at any time and, while a big part of that is because of their height, another reason is because these guys turn into fantastic DBs if they know they can’t catch the ball.
You’ll also have Lowery and Strickland going up against Legedu Naanee (6’2") and Buster Davis (6’1"). Plus, there’s Gates coming in at 6’4". Can you see now why these guys are so hard to defend?
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by John Gennaro on Jan 12, 2010 9:57 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah okay...
If Floyd is as good as you say he would have had more than 2.8 catches/game against the other corners in the league most of whom are not much taller or better than Lito. Non of the Chargers receivers other than their 3 top threats have exactly proven to be dangerous receivers. I’ll take my chances with their receiving corps rather than the Colts’s 4 any day.
by secret defense on Jan 12, 2010 10:32 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Floyd had 45 catches for 775 yards. He's nothing special.
He had big games against KC, Oakland and Miami (biggest corners in the league). Againt everyone else he’s ordinary.
Im guessing that since he’s not a anywhere near as good as Buress, Lito will be able to compete.
Jets shackle Jackson on Revis Island, Bracket gates and zone blitz Rivers. This will be a much lower scoring affair than your used to.
by Crackback on Jan 12, 2010 11:07 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
1. Those numbers are lower because he was not a starter until Week 6.
2. It’s not all about whether he has big numbers or not. Some of Floyd’s biggest plays this season have been drawing 50 yard Pass Interference calls.
3. When the offense is playing great, he’s the 3rd option, and the first 2 options are very well trusted. Sometimes Floyd doesn’t get a lot of catches simply because Gates and Jackson are getting them instead.
4. The Chargers lowest scoring game of the year is when they scored 20 points against the Cowboys. I expect roughly the same production.
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by John Gennaro on Jan 12, 2010 11:15 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Aside from Gates your receivers aren't that great. Their numbers get inflated because of Rivers.
The height won’t be a factor. If Rivers has time to sit back and survey, he will make big plays eventually. We have to mix and match and keep him guessing. But if we beat your protection scheme its gonna be a long day. Rex is relentless.
by Crackback on Jan 12, 2010 11:27 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This why we have to run the ball well.
We keep Rivers on the sideline and limit his looks at our defense.
by Crackback on Jan 12, 2010 11:28 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The numbers get inflated because of Rivers? Ok…well, Rivers is going to be playing on Sunday……so I don’t see your point.
Against, Rivers is the best QB in the league against the blitz. It’s statistically proben.
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by John Gennaro on Jan 12, 2010 1:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
proven*
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by John Gennaro on Jan 12, 2010 1:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The point i was making was that the physical match-ups, on paper, is indicative of nothing.
Your receivers make plays because the QB gets them the ball. Guys like Marving Harrison and Dwight Clark are nobodies without Peyton Manning. But their not top-flight receivers like Andre Johnson, TO, etc.
by Crackback on Jan 12, 2010 1:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yea well
Football is played with QBs and receivers, it wouldnt be fun watching Jackson and Revis eat a sandwich now would it.
And when looking at Floyds numbers keep in mind the team cut Chambers after the 8th game. So Floyds 45 receptions for 776 yards compromises only half the season as a starter.
by AirNorval on Jan 12, 2010 3:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If he's so good how the hell did Chambers start over him for half the year?
by Crackback on Jan 12, 2010 3:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Incompetence
And he had a collapsed lung last season, that I think the Chargers wanted to be careful with.
by AirNorval on Jan 12, 2010 3:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I just think with guys like him, their numbers go up when they play with a special QB like Rivers.
While Im not ready to put Rivers in the same class as Brady and Manning, I think he vry well may be a Hall of Famer.
by Crackback on Jan 12, 2010 4:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yea obviously a WR is only as good as his QB. Floyd may be just an avg number two guy, but with Rivers he plays very well. Everyone talks about Jackson because he’s stronger after he catches the ball.
But Floyd is just one of those guys that never drops the ball, never talks to the media, and doesnt get the TDs. But he is a perfect for the AirCoryell system Norv loves.
He also worked with Rivers a ton when he was on the practice squad and Rivers was a backup.
by AirNorval on Jan 12, 2010 6:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Just don’t expect a big game from Jackson…
Thomas Jones runs this league
by FlyNYJ on Jan 12, 2010 2:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And nobody is
On the flipside though, don’t expect to shut down the entire Chargers offense just by shutting down Jackson
by creanium on Jan 12, 2010 4:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm sure there's no stat on it
But how good is he against the blitz when he can’t see it coming before the play? That’s what he’ll face Sunday. The Jets don’t telegraph their blitzes nearly as much as anybody else I’ve seen.
by FrankG929 on Jan 12, 2010 9:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
REVIS=$$
Thomas Jones runs this league
by FlyNYJ on Jan 12, 2010 2:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Revis
Is going to cover both the Chargers WRs? Wow, and I thought the herb here in SoCal was good.
by AirNorval on Jan 12, 2010 3:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Revis is locking down VJ/Floyd/Gates and Sproles out the backfield, he is that good ;-)
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by David_Wyatt on Jan 12, 2010 3:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He is a beast
I never thought Id see another corner like Prime.
by AirNorval on Jan 12, 2010 3:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It’s scary because he has the shutdown coverage skills of Prime, but he is a better tackler. Sky is the limit.
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by David_Wyatt on Jan 12, 2010 3:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Dude, what the hell are you talking about? Are you on crack or just plain stupid?
I can’t tell…
Thomas Jones runs this league
by FlyNYJ on Jan 12, 2010 11:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
One thing to note: Revis has crazy awesome hops
see: at least one play vs. the Bengals last week and the interception in the end zone vs. the Raiders (yeah it was against the Raiders but I bet you 99% of corners in the league don’t make that play)
by Exystence on Jan 12, 2010 12:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Mike Jenkins actually did a good job against Vincent Jackson, and for just that reason. He has crazy awesome hops. I’m not expecting much from VJ in this game.
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by John Gennaro on Jan 12, 2010 1:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Jackson and Revis have the same vertical
Revis and Jackson match up almost perfectly as far as measurables.
Revis vs Jackson:
40-yard: 4.38s vs 4.38s
20ss: 4.08s vs 4.08s
Vert: 38in vs 39in
But there is one glaring difference:
Height: 5-11.375 vs 6-5
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by creanium on Jan 11, 2010 4:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
by Natrone Bomb on Jan 12, 2010 2:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh I have no doubt that Jackson can outjump Revis, but so can Randy Moss, Andre Johnson, Terrell Owens, Marques Colston, etc. and uhhhhh check out their numbers vs. Revis ;)
Plus also, you know how people talk about “game speed” and whatnot… Revis definitely has more “game hops” than that, as well as more games speed and more game acceleration and he probably pwns his cone drill speed too on the field lol
by Exystence on Jan 12, 2010 2:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Vernon Ghiolston had superb numbers at the combine, outmatched a lot of people. What they can do in shorts and t-sirt is a heck of a lot different than what they can do on gameday
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by David_Wyatt on Jan 12, 2010 2:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ecxept Jackson and Revis have produced
like those measurable suggest they should.
by Natrone Bomb on Jan 12, 2010 4:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
except* measurables*
I need to lay of the chronic
by Natrone Bomb on Jan 12, 2010 4:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh and by the way that's 6'0" Marlin Jackson getting jumped over
by Natrone Bomb on Jan 12, 2010 4:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Nice picture, it’s quite possible that he could hurdle Revis, only difference will be, the ball won’t be in his arms.
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by David_Wyatt on Jan 12, 2010 4:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
the ball won't be in his arms ...
when he lands on his head.
by FrankG929 on Jan 12, 2010 9:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Word is that Jackson is hobbled.
Is there any truth to that?
by Crackback on Jan 12, 2010 2:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hobbled
As soon as the Chargers clinched, he had a sore achillies from opening Xmas presents. That way the Chargers scrub receiver, former first round pick BUSTer Davis could get some looks versus Washington.
by AirNorval on Jan 12, 2010 3:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So Buster Davis is a scrub huh?
Some of your buddies were telling us how Buster Davis is better then any WR the Jets have.
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by nrmax88 on Jan 12, 2010 7:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
just don't do it against the sidelines
you can’t be saved by being pushed out. Believe it or not, it’s easier to move someone when they’re floating in thin air.
Plus you’ve heard the saying the bigger they are, the harder they fall? Go ahead and play jump ball. You might catch one or two, but your odds of that being your last play of the game (or your career in some cases) goes up the more you’re up in the air.
by FrankG929 on Jan 12, 2010 9:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Revis got robbed
Woodson just won DPOY.
by secret defense on Jan 12, 2010 10:23 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Oh well. Congrats to Woodson for the great year, have fun watching the true DPoY from your couch at home this weekend ;)
by Exystence on Jan 12, 2010 10:57 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Robbed for sure.
We saw what Woodson is all about the other night. He had an awsome strip but he got manhandld for 2 TDs. He makes plays but gives up plays too.
Revis makes fewer plays, but he gave up only 1 play in 17 games this season which im still not sure was on him.
by Crackback on Jan 12, 2010 11:00 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It wasn't
He was playing the flat zone then couldn’t catch up when he saw the safety up top blew his coverage :[
by Exystence on Jan 12, 2010 11:04 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ginn was debatable, but I tend to agree with you. But in fairness, we're homers.
But he did get beat by my Moss on that quick 3 yrd TD in NE. Cheap but it counts.
by Crackback on Jan 12, 2010 11:10 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Also,
the MSW walker TD the Jags scored was on a zone play also, looked like Revis dropped him off to the safeties who then proceeded to shit the bed. Remember how awful Rhodes was in that Jax game.
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by nrmax88 on Jan 12, 2010 7:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yer I don’t think the official statisticians gave that one to Revis. I think the only ones that went on him this year were the one to Moss that was close to being indefensible and the Ginn one which like someone said is a hot topic because it looked like it was zone there and someone didn’t pick it up.
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by David_Wyatt on Jan 12, 2010 7:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And as it is, I’m positive that if Revis was playing in Green Bay he’d have at LEAST that many turnovers and sacks overall while being better in coverage. :|
by Exystence on Jan 12, 2010 11:06 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Revis
Revis’s work speaks for itself. Revis will do what he does and that is a given. Weekly, different games bring about a different set of circumstances, but this kid game in and game out has had an answer and Jet Nation cannot help but to think why should this week be any different? San Diego is diverse enough to have an answer for what the jets are going to throw at them, but like one posted that is why the best running game in football has to do what it has done. I like the chances the Jets have still, but i have liked thier chances since 1982!!!!
by bostonsonlyjetfan on Jan 12, 2010 11:34 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Theses Chargers fans....
No Doubt the worst out of division fanbase.
So Arrogant and Cocky. There is a game to play! No one has won yet!
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by michael28102 on Jan 12, 2010 7:50 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Prime did it
Deion Sanders started campaigning for Woodson after his pick six on the last day of the season. Saying that play made him DPLOY. I believe that play hurt Revis. Also a lot of these sports writers really don’t understand the game, they look more at stats.
by BIG OH!!!!! on Jan 12, 2010 9:15 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
This is almost blasphemy but...
I think Revis might be better than Prime was. Prime didnt have to deal with the 5 yrd Rule.
by Crackback on Jan 13, 2010 2:21 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
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