Mark Sanchez's Edge: Pro System Experience
Ever since the Jets took Mark Sanchez, you've probably heard a lot about his experience playing in a pro system instead of a spread offense in college. You probably wonder exactly what difference this makes. Here are a few reasons it gives Sanchez a leg up.
Taking Snaps Under Center:
In a spread offense, just about every snap comes from the shotgun. In pro systems, most snaps come from under center. A lot goes into working under center. A quarterback needs good mechanics while dropping back, namely the ability to use proper footwork and scan a defense. It requires repitition to master. Spread quarterbacks have to learn how to do this from scratch.
Making Postsnap Reads:
The idea of a spread offense is to get as many playmakers into space as possible. In many instances, the quarterback can spot a mismatch before the snap and decides right then to get the ball there quickly to exploit it. There are presnap reads in the pro game and postsnap reads in the spread, but the ratio is not balanced. Quarterbacks have to go through progressions much less.
Reading Defenses:
Spread offenses often face subpackages with more defensive backs than usual to compensate for the four to five receivers on each play. NFL defenses are much more complex than college ones. Quarterbacks with pro system experience at least have a base of reference for facing more conventional fronts. The schemes are more complicated, but it is like jumping from algebra 1 to algebra 2. Spread quarterbacks who faces these subpackages exclusively are jumping from arithmetic to alegbra 2.
Receiver Routes:
Again, the idea of spread offenses is to get playmakers the in space. This often means simple routes on passing plays to get the ball into their hands as quickly as possible. NFL plays are designed with much more complexity. There are clear out routes in which two receivers start out in the same area, and one goes deep to run off a safety, while the other comes back and other complex designs the spread does not produce.
The adjustment from college to the NFL is very difficult. It's even tougher when a quarterback has to completely learn the concepts of playing the position over. Because Sanchez played a pro system at USC, his path will be a bit easier.
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How much does the “Pro System Experince” really count? Of the last two high pick USC QBs, one looks like a franchise player and one looks like a bust. Both Palmer and Leinart played about 30 games for USC. Palmer sat out his whole rookie season while Leinart played during his. So I don’t see how 13 games prepares Sanchez to start anymore then Palmer and Leinart. Put in Klemmens, let him bomb for a few games so Sanchez can do no wrong.
good point
I’m glad I read your comment before I posted b/c I was about to write almost the exact same thing. I think he’ll start the year as the starter, but I think he’ll struggle through this season. I think he has the potential to be pretty good, but I just don’t think its in the cards for him to be great as a rookie. His #1 receiver is Cotchery…..I’m not sure how that will go or how that would make me feel if I were a Jets fan. If the Jets RBs can be monsters, anything is possible, but out of the QBs in the division, I would say the Jets QB (whoever that is) scares me the least….maybe that’s because he won’t be asked to do all that much.
by bluecollarbuffalo on Jul 21, 2009 7:49 AM EDT up reply actions
It makes things easier, but it doesn’t guarantee success. Algebra concept again. Some people might not understand algebra 2 even after they’ve taken algebra 1. But it’s still a better bet than someone who hasn’t taken algebra 1.
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Under this analogy, Sanchez has only taken 3/4 of algebra 1 (if 13 starts counts as 3/4)
by bluecollarbuffalo on Jul 21, 2009 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions
The whole post is nil.
While, yes, Oregon ran a type of spread offense, it was mostly under center – with an I/Offset-I Formation. Look at as many youtube clips of Kellen when he was at Oregon. It’s only been since 2007 that Oregon runs the offense they are known for now. Any QB that can’t take snaps under center has no business in the NFL – because there are much bigger problems than just his footwork.
The idea of a spread offense is to get as many playmakers into space as possible. In many instances, the quarterback can spot a mismatch before the snap and decides right then to get the ball there quickly to exploit it. There are presnap reads in the pro game and postsnap reads in the spread, but the ratio is not balanced. Quarterbacks have to go through progressions much less.
I don’t agree with this. In fact, in most spread offenses, the read has to made immediately AFTER the snap when running a option read. In the passing game, the spread just creates mismatches. Rarely does the QB know where he’s going to throw before the snap. In fact – I think it may be the opposite. In the NFL, you often have 3-step, 5-step and 7-step passes to quick fades, curls, quick outs, or slant routes.
The spread offense in college lives and dies from the QB’s decisions. It avoids forcing a situation and takes whatever the defense will give you.
Spread offenses often face subpackages with more defensive backs than usual to compensate for the four to five receivers on each play. NFL defenses are much more complex than college ones. Quarterbacks with pro system experience at least have a base of reference for facing more conventional fronts. The schemes are more complicated, but it is like jumping from algebra 1 to algebra 2. Spread quarterbacks who faces these subpackages exclusively are jumping from arithmetic to alegbra 2.
That’s such an incredibly simplistic perspective that it isn’t even true. When you slim down your front seven to add more speed to cover the additional receivers, it makes running so much easier. Defensive packages are just as situational in college as they are in the NFL.
Again, the idea of spread offenses is to get playmakers the in space.
A better way of phrasing that would be “The Idea of spread offenses is to create as many mismatches as possible”
This often means simple routes on passing plays to get the ball into their hands as quickly as possible. NFL plays are designed with much more complexity. There are clear out routes in which two receivers start out in the same area, and one goes deep to run off a safety, while the other comes back and other complex designs the spread does not produce.
“Oh no! Where my WRs are running to?!”
This is, of course, a completely false. Again, it goes back to the assumption that the QB knows where he is throwing to before the play starts – which is also false. A spread QB needs to read to the reactions of the safeties just like ANY OTHER quarterback. Here’s “Spread Offense QB” Dennis Dixon breaking down film for pro scouts. Sounds like to me he’s not only making a post-snap read, but there are also routes designed to capitalize on the reaction of the defense. “If he goes to x, I throw to y”
I have respect for Sanchez, and I think he’ll make a fine NFL QB – but these points against Clemens because of his college experience are ridiculous and impulsive. I don’t read anything but blind assertions and assumptions. You didn’t give any examples, statistics, or facts.
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