Rex 'I would Call The Same Play'
by David_Wyatt on Dec 20, 2009 11:10 PM EST
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PrintSteve Politi of the NJ Star Ledger writes that Rex was adamant in his post game press conference, that if the situation was repeated, he would call exactly the same play he called today on the 4th and goal play from the 6 that saw one of the greatest catching tight ends ever to play the game haul in an uncontested touchdown in the front of the end zone, really Rex? You wouldn't maybe think about switching out of a zone, even after Gonzalez admitted that he knew the Jets were playing a zone?
"On the last play I said to myself, ‘Oh my God, I think they’re going zone here,’" Gonzalez said. "And I thought I might have a shot to get open."
is this blind faith in a failed call or complete madness, everyone admitted that they knew exactly which play Atlanta were going to run, they knew it was going to Gonzalez, so why would you play a zone in that situation and let Gonzalez sit in the endzone to end any slim hope of a play-off berth. Is this not just complete arrogance in a failed play, unwilling to admit that we hold the number one defensive unit in the league, until the final minute's where five of our 7 losses have come.
A defence that continuously plays to a high level until a game changing moment is needed. Their are simply no excuses for letting a play like that defeat us, and then to arrogantly claim that the same call would be made, like by some magical occurrence Gonzalez wouldn't find the soft spot in the zone on the second time of asking, that quite frankly is disrespectful to a player of Gonzalez' calibre. Of the ridiculous statement's that have been made by the brash Jets this season, this one ranks among the league leaders
Like Politi mentions, everyone in the stadium knew what was coming, everyone watching on TV knew it too, and apparently so did the coaching staff and the players. However it's December, it's a late season meaningful game, just jot this entry down in the over-flowing journal of Jets disappointments, this is a good defence with the potential to be great, but no great defence gives us last possession TD after last possession TD after last possession TD, and the arrogance we saw in Miami from Rex and the defensive coaching staff, has reared it's ugly head once again.
Their is a difference between confidence and arrogance and Ryan often flirts with that line.
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Rex figured that everybody would blame Feely and Sanchez anyway
Or maybe he was like Dick Stockton and thought a Td would only tie the game.
So I was looking at the playoff generators.
Shockingly it isn’t as bleak as it looks, that is if we win out. Honestly, it’s still along shot but I need some hope after today…and crazier things have happened. 2002 season? I know this seems crazy too but do you guys know how well we match up with the Colts? Revis takes away Wayne. Sanders out hurts their run D, terrible cornerbacks. Colts have a bad running game too, no reason we can’t compete with the Colts like so many other teams. (Jags, Texans, Pats, Miami). Anyway here’s the link for those who are looking for hope. http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/playoffscenario
They have as good as chance as anyone but they always find some way to blow it
It would be nice to at the very least, be the ones to end the undefeated season. At least we would get some good press for once. ESPN is asking which 7-7 team has the best chance to make the playoffs, and we arent even an option. Talk about being disrespected, ouch.
Damn tiebreakers.
If we took care of business we would be 11-3 right now.
What I had was...
Jets win out:
Miami loses to Houston and Pittsburgh
Tennesssee loses to San Diego and beats Sandiego
Houston beats Miami and loses to New England.
Jacksonville loses to New England and Beats Cleveland.
Pittsburgh beats Baltimore and Miami.
Baltimore loses to Pittsburgh and beats Cleveland.
Now basically we want Pittsburgh to win out. and guys none of those games results are far fetched honestly most of those seem realist.
Except Jets who couldnt beat ATL going into Indy and beating an undefeated team
Can you imagine what Dallas Clark is going to do against this D?
by YankeesJets on Dec 21, 2009 12:17 AM EST up reply actions
Flirting With Arrogance!
David you his the nail with this article good job. Rex Ryan for saying he would call the same exact play is being very arrogant right now. Dallas Clark is gonna play big like he been all season. Hope fully Indy coaching staff will rest there players and we can steal one from out of there.
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maybe revis should have been on gonzalez instead of white
i noe he wants to show he shuts down all the best wr, but it doesn’t mean he;s shutting down the most important players, the guys who get the chains moving. See Wes Welker, Tony Gonzalez here, and next week if he’s on Wayne for the whole game, clark will have afield day. Revis is one of the best CB, but i think he should change coverage when the situation calls for it.
Kerry Rhodes did a great job on TG, dont know why Rex moved him off him
The only thing this article doesnt say, is that Rex explained in the press conferance, that the d didnt execute what he wanted(which is obvious), someone blew an assignment.
Your right I should of added that, just thinking that even if an assignment was blown, Gonzalez is always going to find the weak spot in the zone, we needed to keep Kerry man on man, or Revis man on man, if we knew where they were going, it really doesn’t make sense to not put man coverage on Gonzalez.
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jets just be real for a moment
here is what we do….
-demote Ryan to D-Coord.
-bench/develope sanchez(let Clemens manage the games next year)
-hire a head coach dedicated to team football.
you see guys, it’s obvious rex is better at running D than anyone else in the game. his D is number 1. unfortunately there are other aspects to Head Coaching. all these last drive losses, are symptomatic of an over agressive D-Coord. with no real head coach to check him(that’s exactly what ryan is). He has routinely made foolish calls as a head coach, and refuses to take responsibility for these guffs of stupidity. all in all Rex Ryan=best D-Coord.=horrible HC.
sanchez could use but one or two more seasons to get used to not being able to have his way with opponents. This isn’t the Pac10 or USC, and he will not keep staring Braylon square in the eyes and nail touchdown after touchdown, and fur in the helmet? is that how we train our franchise players? he needs to learn to play in the new york cold, or sit for awhile(how do you think old SoCal stud Aaron Rodgers got used to the freezing cold in Green Bay) if he cant handle things of such a simple nature as the cold weather he needs to sit. Kellen Clemens has shown this year that he is capable of winning the simple games, and managing a D-1st strategy effectively, give him this team until the sanchize is ready to take the training wheels off.
and i need not mention the explicable wealth of proper head coaching experience on the market in the NFL at this point in time.
C’mon Woody. show us you care!
by ControlTheMind on Dec 21, 2009 12:56 AM EST reply actions
This is a terrible post
Kellen Clemens should be on a farm in Oregon, not QBing or holding for the kicker for that matter. Has Rex made mistakes? Of course he has, but he will get better. He would never take a demotion, thats just nuts. If anything the Jets need to bring in veteran backup next year. Someone to help Sanchez out with the process. I prey they can get Pennington back.
Unlikely, maybe try Leftwich
Let’s see – Pennington was moved out to make room for Favre, a QB who wasn’t expected to play many more years
Then Favre was “allowed to retire” to make room for Sánchez
In the meantime, Pennington ended up on the division rival Dolphins.
And then try to bring him in to school Sánchez?
I just don’t see that happening. Pennington has got to be thinking “Vaffanculo” here.
As far as other veteran QB’s who are currently backups, I think Leftwich is the best shot. Somebody else mentioned Boller but I wouldn’t recommend him.
Which is why...
Welker has put together tons of catches and yardage (among others, against us)
Why guard González? Because he’s the no. 1 receiver in the given situation.
Final thoughts for the season
Revis is too good to be stuck on this team. I feel for him.
Man... next season we're going to beast
It seems like every year I say this… but you have to believe with all of the pieces we’ve got and more to come and the pending improvement of Sanchez and hopefully the signing of a veteran backup/mentor QB to aid in his improvement, we could be a force to be reckoned with.
In fact, we should be a force to be reckoned with right now, as we have as talented a team as anyone in the league. It’s just all come down to rookie QB mistakes and rookie head coaching mistakes. And having Brian Schottenheimer as the OC >_>
If Sanchez improves, we get a new OC and the defence learns to finish games, then we will be tough to beat. Until then though, we will continue with the ‘next year’ talk, getting very frustrated with that.
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by David_Wyatt on Dec 21, 2009 10:01 AM EST up reply actions
The last play on defense
I agree with Rex actually, upon watching the replay. The players were there, but they didn’t do their job.
I do agree that they shouldn’t have been in the zone on that catch that Roddy White made, but I don’t know defense as well as Rex or Pettine.
As for the offense, it’s amazing to me that if we get near the goal line, we can’t find a way to just punch it in. It just doesn’t seem like we’re a good smash mouth football team where we’re down there, everybody knows we’re gonna run it, and there’s now way you’re gonna stop us.
And all the cute little things we keep trying like bringing out the jumbo package and then passing it to Wayne Hunter, who nonchalantly laughs when he drops it.
And then there’s all the excuses that they’re stacking the box. Then why can’t we find someone open? I’m just sick of these kinds of losses already.
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Im sick of all the excuses for Sanchez.
Its been 14 games and he’s still locking onto receivers and throwing into coverage. He still has a miserable completion percentage. Can we have just one game where he throws for 300 and 2 TDs and no picks. Every game he puts up multiple picks and throws for 200 or less and has a completion percentage under 60%.
Seems like for every good play he makes...
there’s 3 or 4 absolutely horrible ones. He hasn’t gotten better at anything.
Yes, I’m sick of it, too. They make a big point of him correcting the mistakes, protecting the football, etc. and the same things keep happening.
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Sanchez needs to have a good game either against the Colts or the Bengals, and not a 50%, 150 yard, 1 TD 0 INT type game, thinking more a 70% completion for 250 and 2 TD’s. Starting to think people are losing the faith in him, I’m just questioning his intelligence, not his talent, constantly making the same mistakes, game after game.
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by David_Wyatt on Dec 21, 2009 11:09 AM EST up reply actions
P.S zone leaves too many holes and a bigger chance for failure surely, their are always soft spots in zone, and when the man to man had been working so well, we needed to man up Gonzalez in that situation, should of put Rhodes on him.
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by David_Wyatt on Dec 21, 2009 11:11 AM EST up reply actions
I agree. Rhodes or Revis in that spot.
And you have to blitz and make him throw it early. I mean thats our M/O for christ’s sake.
What?
This was not about the 4th and 6 on the goal…..
It is about a quaterback who downright stinks, a severe special teams let down and, incredibly poor offensive play calling.
We do not deserve to go to the playoffs! And we need a backup quarterback to either teach or play the position in a pinch. Sanchez has absolutely no business playing in the NFL………
Sorry but you are wrong
The offense gave the defense a lead to work with, and they gave it up. They stood around TG like a bunch of fools. It looked like 5 guys were standing around him wishing him a Merry Christmas. Did Rex let Bob Sutton call the defense the last few plays, because I was having flashbacks to last years D.
by YankeesJets on Dec 21, 2009 12:28 PM EST up reply actions
Sorry but youre way too outraged at the D, and have the blinders on for Sanchez...
Bottom line is that the D only allowed 10 regardless of when those pts were scored. If Sanchez didnt throw that first pick, they probably dont get a FG; if he doesnt intentionally ground we would have had another crack at a FG.
The offense has to score some pts and not be a damn turnover machine and expect the D to go out and hold the other team to under 7 pts to win. He threw 3 damn picks. Its ridiculous.
IF IF IF
None of that matters when you hand the D a lead with a few minutes left in the game. Kickers miss kicks, Rookie QBs throw lots of picks, great defenses dont leave Hall Of Fame TEs wide open. Inexcuseable. You want to sit and enjoy moral victories like the Jets leading the league in defense, go right ahead, I dont enjoy not seeing my team make the playoffs year in and year out with all the talent they have.
Sanchez has been thrown to the wolves
As a Giants fan I still pull for the Jets, almost as much for my friends that are long suffering as anything else. The Giants took a far more coveted and NFL ready number one pick in Eli Manning, and still had him sit behind Kurt Warner, who was as it turns
damaged goods when playing at that time. But the Jets didnt have that luxury, with Clements, they could name this stiff the starter and had now journeyman QB to ease
Sanchez way as a starter.In the day,a rookie Qbs had a 2-4 year learning curve, and a lot of clipboard time. Sounded good going in to roll the dice on a revamped defensive and a power running game. Defense has delivered beyond expectations, running game
leads the league. Loss of Leon Washington, is barely mentioned, and has taken away
Sanchez second, and particularly third down option, and instead has forced him to go vertical more often than he is ready for at this point. No one disputes Mike Westoffs standing as a special team coach, but this area has slipped. particularly on Punt and and Kickoff returns. They are down to using Chochery on punts, probably because he can hold on to the ball. Kicking to Ted Ginn cost them a game. And the usually solid
Jay Feeley, was due for a stinker, even though a fumbled snap, and a high snap and a block were not his fault. In a playoff hunt, during a season in which the Patriots were less
than their usual Juggernaut, you almost have to concede 2-3 games because of QB difficiency going in. As a general estimate, the offense has cost the Jets 3-4 wins, Special Teams one victory and defense lapsed once or twice. Anyone who said that with
Rookie Coach, Rookie Q, New Defense, no Leon Washington, that the Jets would go 8-8 you would take it.
by sudden death overtime on Dec 21, 2009 4:00 PM EST reply actions
Good Post, Lots of good points
Woody was so concerned with selling PSLs he forgot that he had a team that was ready to win now. Handing the team over to a rookie QB after they were 8-3 at one point last season was stupid. Bring in a vet, and if he struggles, fans will scream for the rookie, then you have a win-win situation with no second guessing. Instead now everybody including the coach is killing this kids every move.
I think youre right...
He shoudnt have been asked to start right off the bat. He shouldve held the clipboard a couple games, watched some film, and if the team needs a shot in the arm you bring in the kid.
But i dont think its unfair to ask him not to throw more than 2 picks in a game. I dont think its unfair to ask him not to stare down receivers in week 15. And its not unfair to ask him not to force throws into coverage.
Leon also gave them good field position
don’t forget the good field position Sanchez was getting before his injury. Leon’s kick returns were crucial to the offense. I don’t think we’ve seen Mark start from deep within Jets territory and lead the offense to a touchdown yet. I think the closest was the NO game where Sharper had the pick six close to Saints goal line.
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The one aspect about his game that i like is his deep ball...
He throws a heck of a deep ball. Maybe they should roll him out some and let him work deeper down the field. Keep him out of all that intermediary stuff where the windows are tight and theres less room for error.
I agree
Stop making him thread the needle, he does throw a nice deep ball. But he has underthrown a couple of those deep balls too. The first play of the Jags game was a memorable one.
Trust Me, Im not thrilled with the picks
I still think the last pick was due to Ryan going balistic on him the play before. Screw the red, yellow, green plays. Mark when you see two guys in on your target, dont throw it there. Thanks.
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