Lets Debate: Charlie Weis. Yay or Nay?
by David_Wyatt on Nov 30, 2009 2:59 PM EST
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So a fan post was made a few days ago about the possibility of bringing Charlie Weis in to run the Jets offence next season.
Moments ago it was confirmed that Notre Dame have decided to fire Charlie Weis, which means that this seems to be a perfect time to discuss what people think about this.
Brian Schottenheimer has always been a hot and cold discussion with Jets fans, one week he is one of the smartest guys in the game, the next, maybe he is too smart. For around two years now he has been tabbed for a head coaching spot in the league, and now it's only a matter of time before he gets one. So discussing life after Brian seems to be quite valid.
So I'm really going to open this one up for discussion, as a Notre Dame fan, I have my own opinions on Charlie, and I never really had a problem with his play calling after all the Notre Dame offence has been quite prolific, he is not getting fired because of his work on the offensive side of the ball, he is getting fired because of his inability to build a defence, which in turn has led to more losses over a three year span than any previous head coach of Notre Dame.
Let's not forget that Charlie Weis has already been the offensive coordinator with the Jets between 1997 and 1999, and in 1998 the Jets finished 4th in the NFL in total offence.
He has moulded Jimmy Clausen at Notre Dame into a first round talent, Jimmy had numerous flaws in 2007 and 2008, and Charlie worked to correct these over the off-season, he forced the ball too much, he often refused to throw it out of bounds, and was stubborn in checking down to his hot reads and running backs, he was flushed from the pocket too often.
Sound familiar?
Now what we see from Jimmy Clausen is a composed QB, who stands tall in the pocket, gets rid of the ball when he needs to, always willing to check down to receivers and hardly ever forces the ball. Clausen had 17 interceptions in 2008 and only 4 in 2009, two of which were on his receivers. He is a different guy and a better quarterback, no wonder he feels a sense of appreciation for Charlie Weis.
So let's for a minute say that Schottenheimer leaves after the 2009-2010 NFL season and Charlie is looking for work, would you hire him?
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Wow, lmao. We just wrote the same story.
Great minds think alike ; )
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lol
Well it seems logical, I don’t think it’s a case of us firing Schotty, more him leaving to advance his own career, so I think it is worth talking about
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Nay...
We tried the Patsy experiment already. No thanks, move on.
It'sprobably not likely anyway.
I wouldn’t fire Schotty just to hire him.
It’s not always good for teams to change systems, and Mark might benefit from having that consistency in his second year.
Before the draft, he did an interview for SNY and said he would be happy to be with the Jets because it would be the best fit for him.
(Now, I don’t know if he said that about every other team that was interested, but it seemed genuine to me.)
But if B-Schott does leave for whatever reason, then we should at least interview.
However, if Brian were to go, I got a feeling Bill Callahan would take over.
Then we also have Matt Cavanaugh, who I believe was the OC for the 2000SB champs the ravens
(not exactly known for their offense, but nonetheless).
Anyway, I’m sure some teams would be desperate enough to hire Charlie as HC, so it probably won’t happen.
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Apparently, Rich Cimini agrees:
While I do believe the Jets-Brian Schottenheimer marriage isn’t as strong as it once was — remember, Schotty said he was "stung" by Rex Ryan’s decision to get involved in the offense — I’d be surprised if they went outside the organization in the event they part ways … [i]n the name of continuity, I think the Jets would promote OL coach Bill Callahan or QB coach Matt Cavanaugh. With a young quarterback, you’d think the Jets would be reluctant to start over with a new system.
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I think he would only take a OC position if he couldn’t get a HC job. With all the big name coaches out there I don’t think Schott would get a HC job so I see him staying put. Plus I think Ryan and Weiss would clash too much. They seem to have the same personalities. Brady will probably be wispering in Kraft’s ear to sign Weiss.
idea
lets bring in weis, romeo, mangini (gonna be fired soon) and get that new england head coach to coach the jets. i really feel like this coaching staff can lead a team to the playoffs
Before Weis & Crennel left, the Pats had 3 Super Bowl wins in 4 years
Since, 1 Super Bowl appearance which they lost and is considered one of the all time great upsets.
"So basically, the Stats make no sense whatsoever."
I thought they really missed Charlie in the loss to the Giants. It took McDaniels way too long to adjust to the pass rush by spreading the field and getting the ball out quickly, which really was surprising considering it was the approach they took for much of the year.
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:-) Am I that obvious lol
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Well, Schotty pisses me off to no end
so if it was up to me, I would totally fire his ass and hire Weis in a heartbeat. Realistically however I don’t think we get him unless SOMEHOW we hire him as like QB coach which just isn’t going to happen. Unless someone decides to hire Schotty as their next head coach, which at this point considering his performance so far would be downright foolish, but I guess if Mangini can find a job in this league…
Maybe he goes to the team that drafts Clausen, I know I would want to keep that combination together.
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Haha imagine this scenario
Mangini gets fired, Weis is hired as the new Browns HC, and he drafts Clausen. He now has his two first-round QBs from Notre Dame on the Browns, daaaaaaaang
lol well Weis recruited Clausen so the connection would be fresher, ship Quinn out to the Rams or whoever needs a QB for some draft picks, then trade up and get Golden Tate. Bring the core of the ND offence to a team severely lacking in that department.
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Imagine him and Rex beside each other on the sideline
Twins.
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Ha nice!
But i say bring him back, he obviously still knows his sh!t.
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