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by John B on Nov 15, 2009 7:35 PM EST
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Good evening
I’ll be here tonight if you’d like to talk this out.
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by John B on Nov 15, 2009 7:36 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Checking in for a while
Just read some rumours linking my Cubs and your Yankees John with Curtis Granderson, what are your thoughts there?
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by David_Wyatt on Nov 15, 2009 7:41 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn’t want to give up a top prospect for him, which is probably what it would take. I like him, but he was brutal against lefties last year.
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by John B on Nov 15, 2009 7:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
A pure salary dump I would do, but I don’t see that happening. His contract’s very affordable. I’d imagine there would be some sort of bidding war.
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by John B on Nov 15, 2009 7:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yer
Angels are also interested, and would think they have the players expendable for a trade. I can’t imagine who they would want from us. Josh Vitters is untouchable.
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by David_Wyatt on Nov 15, 2009 7:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I would rather the Yankees get Chone
He can move around to a lot of places, he wont cost no prospects, and he is younger than Damon.
by YankeesJets on Nov 15, 2009 7:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The only thing I want from this off-season
Is for Milton Bradley to be shipped out somewhere, anywhere. Guy is trash, single handedly ruined the team this year. Well he had a little help from Jim Hendry who destroyed a team with the most wins in the NL, all to get left handed. That really worked Jim, congrats.
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by David_Wyatt on Nov 15, 2009 7:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I remember saying Bradley was a bad contract. That man is the posterchild of people who should only get one year deals.
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by John B on Nov 15, 2009 7:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
How about Bradley to the Mets, Cubs get Oliver Perez and Luis Castillo?
by YankeesJets on Nov 15, 2009 7:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Would'nt want to take on Perez
but heard a deal for Castillo, involving Toronto in a three team trade. Would take Castillo
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by David_Wyatt on Nov 15, 2009 7:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yep, knew it was a terrible deal
He meted down in San Diego, how the hell was he going to cope in Chicago, a baseball town, with the Cubs fans about as impatient as they come. Was never going to work. Trading for Kevin Gregg and not offering Wood, and trading Mark DeRosa to get Aaron Miles (switch hitter). It was one of the worst off-seasons in Cubs history.
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by David_Wyatt on Nov 15, 2009 7:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Getting rid of DeRosa was dumb, not bringing back Wood was smart
What the heck were the Mets thinking with the Perez and Castillo deals? Hendry wanted to get left handed, Minaya wanted to get even more Latino.
by YankeesJets on Nov 15, 2009 7:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
My question is how does Minaya still have a job.
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by John B on Nov 15, 2009 7:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I ask myself that question every day
The only convincing reason i’ve found is that Omar is easily convinced by small sample sizes and tends to blind himself to the inconsistencies. With Ollie, Omar was in love with his performance against the Phillies, so much so that he felt he could just ignore Ollie’s incredible wildness and walk rate. As for Castillo…. well, I can only assume he felt that Castillo was still in his 2003 form…
Not that I want to defend Omar in anyway, I think he should be tosssed out on his ass
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by blueandorange4life on Nov 16, 2009 9:47 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think getting rid of Wood was smart
Wood said he would of taken a smaller deal and even another one year one to remain with the Cubs. Instead we paid Gregg $4.2 million to suck, blow saves and ultimately get shifted from the role.
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by David_Wyatt on Nov 15, 2009 7:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think it was smart to get rid of Wood
He said that he would of taken another one year deal to stay in Chicago but yet we let him walk, and then traded a promising prospect in Jose Ceda to the Marlins for Gregg, his $4.2 million contract, and just so we could watch him blow saves and ultimately get shifted from the role and demoted.
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by David_Wyatt on Nov 15, 2009 7:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wood was awful for the Tribe last year
Gregg was okay early on. Marmol shouldve just been given the closers job. Minaya has a job because he somehow got the Mets to give him a 4 year extension after the 08 season, so they wont eat that much money. I will give him props for stealing Johan. The Twins got nothing on that deal.
by YankeesJets on Nov 15, 2009 8:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wood was awful for the Tribe last year
Gregg was okay early on. Marmol shouldve just been given the closers job. Minaya has a job because he somehow got the Mets to give him a 4 year extension after the 08 season, so they wont eat that much money. I will give him props for stealing Johan. The Twins got nothing on that deal.
by YankeesJets on Nov 15, 2009 8:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
chone figgins
would be cool.
we will have a shonn greene (jets), a chone figgins (yanks) and a shawn green (mets), not to mention the other sean green. how many ways can you spell the name?
and the home of the... JETS!!!
Go, Pac, Go!!! Manny Pacquiao!!!
by dvdvil on Nov 15, 2009 8:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
speaking of rumors
Brady Quinn to Denver is whats circulating.
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by TheTealDeal on Nov 15, 2009 8:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
that was before the season
i think, so anyway.
but it just came out recently.
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by dvdvil on Nov 15, 2009 8:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
renewed interest maybe
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by TheTealDeal on Nov 15, 2009 8:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I was going to go to the Jets/ Bucs game
I’m afraid they wont show up to play. They never do when its a team they’re suppose to beat.
by YankeesJets on Nov 15, 2009 7:43 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I'd try and get to the Bengals game
We seem to do better against the better teams. Worst case scenario, you have Ocho to keep you entertained.
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by David_Wyatt on Nov 15, 2009 7:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Seeing as I live near Tampa, the Bengals arent an option
I thought the Bucs game would be a cakewalk, but they have shown me a lot the last two weeks.
by YankeesJets on Nov 15, 2009 7:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, Freeman’s surprising me. I remember Draft day I was watching SNY, and Ray Lucas said he’d walk off the set if the Jets picked him.
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by John B on Nov 15, 2009 7:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ray Lucas gets more credit than he deserves
He wasnt that great as a QB, and he really isnt that great in the studio.
by YankeesJets on Nov 15, 2009 7:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, he really only played well one year, and that was in meaningless games.
He impressed the Jets so much that year, they drafted Pennington.
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by John B on Nov 15, 2009 7:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He sounds like an idiot when he gives his analysis
There has to be a former Jet out there in need of a job. Maybe one of those numerous TE’s or how about Mike Nugent? He isnt doing anything. Anybody but Lucas. Or Buttle for that matter.
by YankeesJets on Nov 15, 2009 7:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Who does everybody have tonight?
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by John B on Nov 15, 2009 7:49 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Colts by 7
Hoping that Dwight Freeney has a field day against Brady
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by David_Wyatt on Nov 15, 2009 7:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This game was flexed, no?
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by John B on Nov 15, 2009 7:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The Colts
But the Pats will win, because everything else went wrong today. Jets lose, Fins win. Today really showed the difference between the Fins and Jets. The Jets find ways to lose, the Fins find ways to win.
by YankeesJets on Nov 15, 2009 7:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
They’ve had some pretty brutal losses at the end of games to the Colts and Saints.
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by John B on Nov 15, 2009 7:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Should probably read
they find ways to win games that they should win, where as Jets find ways to lose games they should win.
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by David_Wyatt on Nov 15, 2009 7:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Patriots by 3
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by TheTealDeal on Nov 15, 2009 8:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Do we have any shot in Foxborough next week?
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by John B on Nov 15, 2009 7:57 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Probably will play our best game
It will get everyone’s hopes up that we are back on track, only for it to be dashed. Losing from here on out isn’t the way we do it. We have to instil some hope if we want to dash it.
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by David_Wyatt on Nov 15, 2009 8:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The Jets are a good matchup for that offense. We’ve been able to bang Brady around and had success against them in recent years.
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by John B on Nov 15, 2009 8:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Of Course, The Jets Are Going To Win
They only lose the games they take lightly. While they’re at SNY for all their guest spots(which need to come to an end) they watch all the shows, and buy the hype. When it is put out there, that the Jets can easly win 3 of the next for games by someone like Adam Schein, the Jets believe its a gimme. Listening to Braylon after the game, my comments seem dead on. This team is a bunch of paper champs.
by YankeesJets on Nov 15, 2009 8:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Brady or Manning?
The debate on NBC right now. Harrison and Dungy arguing.
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by John B on Nov 15, 2009 8:04 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I’m not really sure it’s much of a debate at this point if you look at the way Manning’s carried that team the past two years with a suspect supporting cast. Also doing it while injured pretty badly for much of 2008.
Peter King’s book tells a pretty unbelievable story of what Manning was playing through last year.
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by John B on Nov 15, 2009 8:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Harrison’s argument is “Brady has three rings.”
Dungy responded, “So does Troy Aikman. Does that make his better than Brett Favre?”
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by John B on Nov 15, 2009 8:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Those two?
I wonder who they are going to pick
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by Jadden Hopkins on Nov 15, 2009 8:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I have to go with Harrison on this debate
Brady had no namers on the offense, Manning had stars on the offense. In a big game, I’m taking Brady every time. I still think Pennington got jobbed last year. He was the MVP, not Manning.
by YankeesJets on Nov 15, 2009 8:08 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I used to be a Brady guy back when Manning was combusting every January, but I’ve converted. Brady didn’t have much at skill positions early in his career, but he did have a great defense and the greatest coach of his generation. His team won 11 years last year with a dude who hadn’t started since high school.
Manning’s carried his team these past two years with no running game. The Colts wouldn’t win 6 games any year of his career with Jim Sorgi under center.
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by John B on Nov 15, 2009 8:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Lets not forget that BB is a defensive guy
Manning has had the same coaching staff his whole career, while Brady has been with a bunch of different offensive coordinators. Last years 11 win team had the same easy schedule the Jets couldnt take care of. They had both West divisions on the schedule, and they still had a great line and talent at the WR position. During Brady’s SB run, he had nobodys at WR and RB. Manning is to Brady, what Marino is to Montana. Well except Montana had Rice.
by YankeesJets on Nov 15, 2009 8:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Don’t agree. Manning’s won a Super Bowl and did it by overcoming an 18 point deficit on BB’s defense in the AFC Championship. He’s not Marino. He’s also a big winner.
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by John B on Nov 15, 2009 8:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ouch, SI Writer Don Banks Is calling the Jets phony
Saying they have been proven to be frauds. Now this article, I want the Jets to read.
by YankeesJets on Nov 15, 2009 8:11 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Very true.
The 3-0 start is long over, no time for we’ll win next week. It’s all over if we lose to the Pats next week. 2 games behind wc right now and maybe 3 to Pats.
by Jerrad p on Nov 15, 2009 8:57 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Frankly I don’t think this team goes to the Playoffs without winning out.
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by John B on Nov 15, 2009 8:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe I think 10 wins could get the sixth seed too though.
But can anyone see us going 6-1 the way we’ve been playing lately and with Indianapolis, New England, Atlanta, and Cinci still on the schedule.
by Jerrad p on Nov 15, 2009 9:03 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
we needed to go 7-1 after the bye
well, we got the 1 out of the way early…
can we get the 7?
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by dvdvil on Nov 15, 2009 9:07 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Not if we play like we have been
Not a chance in hell
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by David_Wyatt on Nov 15, 2009 9:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Even if we don't make the playoffs
How sweet would it be to sweep the Pats.
by Jerrad p on Nov 15, 2009 9:17 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Very
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by John B on Nov 15, 2009 9:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I guess
To be honest though, I’m getting a little sick of these ‘minor season victories’, It’s time for the big bang
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by David_Wyatt on Nov 15, 2009 9:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
while the Pats are up by 10. Houston, Miami, Jacksonville, SanDiego, Pittsburgh, Baltimore all ahead of us for 2 spots and we have the toughest schedule out of all them…not looking good.
by Jerrad p on Nov 15, 2009 10:28 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
That coaching decision by BB, just breathed some life into a Jets season that may well have been over.
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by David_Wyatt on Nov 15, 2009 11:55 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
All the drought of the Cubs
and half of the fan fare.
Any other Jets fans think they’re just fans because they’re pessimists?
by Bro Namath on Nov 16, 2009 12:04 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Don't think so
Well personally I’m notoriously a optimist, so nothing there, and a lot of Cubs fans I know are extreme optimists. So I doubt it
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by David_Wyatt on Nov 16, 2009 2:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
some jets fans
are actually optimistic beyond reason
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by dvdvil on Nov 16, 2009 2:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Absolutely
Seen it a few times where the heart is definitely ruling the head
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by David_Wyatt on Nov 16, 2009 4:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah.
Beat the Pats and were right back into the division race. But that doesn’t happen the way we’re playing now…and i don’t think the Pats have lost 2 in a row in over 50 games that is frightening.
by Jerrad p on Nov 16, 2009 1:10 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Think it was late in 2006 the last time that happened
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