Putting Mark Sanchez's Performance in Perspective
I understand why a lot of you are frustrated by Mark Sanchez's outing right now, but it's important to remember it was only his sixth start.
Let me put it this way. What if I told you your team has a rookie quarterback who just threw 2 touchdowns and 7 interceptions in the first six games of the year? What if I told you he was only averaging 179 yards per game? What if I told you his team was supposed to be a contender but was only 3-3? He threw 3 picks in Week 6 in an ugly loss.
This guy's over his head. Surely those of you who want Sanchez benched would bench this guy too.
More after the jump.
You just benched Joe Flacco with the Ravens last year. Flacco of course improved through the year. His early struggles taught him valuable lessons about what you can't do in the NFL. It helped him adjust to the speed of the game. Some of you might have thought Flacco should watch from the bench instead of take his licks. Because that didn't happen, he was able to adjust and looks like a franchise quarterback a year later.
Stay patient with Sanchez.
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Don't Lose Faith in Sanchez, Jets Fans
I’m currently watching the Jets-Bills game on my Tivo and I know Sanchez had difficulty with the weather. He’ll have to adapt to playing in horrendous weather, but he’s not a bad quarterback. If I may offer a fair assessment of the Jets as a team: first of all, it was kind of childish when they complained about the Wildcat. Rex Ryan is a really good coach and anyone that can beat the trash out of the cheating Pats, I admire. You need to recapture the mojo that made you 3-0. I’ve watched the Jets three weeks in a row and the only really bad effort (defensively) I thought was against the Dolphins. You’re not in bad shape. Keep the faith. GO BRONCOS!!!
Brad James
by the Bradfather on Oct 19, 2009 10:18 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sanchez
I agree with you that Sanchez should not be labeled a bust. However, any quarterback in this league (with the exception of Peyton, Tom, and the great ones) , if they kept throwing interceptions like Sanchez did yesterday, they would have been benched for that game. I am not sure Clemmens could have done better, but I think he would have managed the game a little better without trying to win it by himself. Sanchez looked overmatched. He should not have finished the game.
by Kreits on Oct 19, 2009 10:52 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes dont lose faith in Dirty Sanchez.. I am on season 2012 on madden and he is a 94 on there!!
:) All rooks have issues from time to time. Its how they learn to play the game. Have faith in Sanchez Im sure he will be a fine QB in time.
Henne is now our leader. Lets see what the guy can do !
As usual the R&R Xpres is non stop to its next destination !
Driver of the Camarillo, Hartline & Bess fan club bus.. hop on and enjoy the ride!
We need this pass D to STEP THE F UP and do what they get paid to do!
CP10 you will be missed. Long live noodle arm ! Seriously, a great leader and I hope we see Coach CP10
by MainePhinFan on Oct 19, 2009 11:26 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Jets win if Rex Ryan scores points for asinine comments.
by Dane G on Oct 19, 2009 11:34 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You gotta keep him in it
It is really worth repeating… Sanchez HAS to play the whole game. When you start pulling out QBs, you disrupt whatever kind of flow you have. It adds anxiety for the starter. And most importantly, he loses out on VALUABLE game tape to analyze his performance.
Analyze the losses. Vs. the Saints, Sanchez tape (and I watched as much of this and all the recaps I could find on the internet) revealed he telegraphed his punches by not surveying the field. He has pretty good arm strength and very good accuracy, but when he locks on a target, he has to realize these NFL CBs will move in to intercept.
Vs. The dolphins, he corrected much of that issue. However the Offensive line didn’t buy him enough time in the pocket in many cases for him to go down his progression. He basically reacted to the first couple of reads, and with the help of a few great catches and some admittedly questionable calls, he brings the Jets back into a position to win. The MNF loss is squarely on the shoulders of the defense (though I must say, the full power of the wildcat is pretty amazing).
Vs. the Bills, he reverted back to the saints loss because he apparently has little faith in Clowney or Wright. The tape doesn’t lie – all of the 5 INTs were passes intended for Braylon or Dustin.. By putting the pressure on #17 and #81, the bills took away his big targets. Bad play calling sealed the deal, as Shotty should have been calling for short dumps and screens to leon or clowney to keep the ball moving forward instead of throwing long passes he obviously had troubles with. With the ground game as good as it was, we were quite literally a first down away from winning the game.
My thinking is, no matter what the defense let Fitzpatrick do, only giving up 13 points will win you the football game 80% of the time. This is great tape for Sanchez. Look for him to put the hurt on Oakland next week, particularly in the warmer weather
by TeamJets on Oct 19, 2009 11:37 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
"(though I must say, the full power of the wildcat is pretty amazing)."
As a Miami fan, I appreciate your comments.
and Big thanks for not calling it a “Gimmick Play” ….. I think its evolved well beyond that into a regular formation in our offense.
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by Fr8Train on Oct 19, 2009 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mean Reversion
He had a crazy start to the season, way better than anyone could anticipate, but we can’t expect a pro-bowl season from a rookie. The goal the whole season was to ‘ground and pound’. Yesterday was the first game the running game did its part. The plan was to bring Sanchez along slowly, but he has had to grow up much faster than I’m sure the Jets wanted in the first few weeks. That raised expectations and now we’re shocked that he’s playing like this. Had this been week 1, I think it would have fit everyone’s expectations.
Rookies throw 20+ interceptions (as does Favre) and they throw them in bunches. If he’s throwing 5 pics a game next year we’ll worry. Until then, he’s been decent and we know his potential is great.
by JetsFan1991 on Oct 19, 2009 12:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Dont Blame Sanchez, Blame Schotty
Obviously Sanchez didnt have it yesterday, but when you see he is locking in on the same guy, repeating the same mistakes, you dial it back a bit. When TJ and LW are having their way with the defense, why stop pounding it? The Bills knew the run was coming and couldn’t stop it. If you run the ball, the defense rests and you control the clock. I’m starting to wonder who’s the rookie, Schotty or Sanchez?
by YankeesJets on Oct 19, 2009 12:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
No dude,
i am blaming Sanchez. Dude needs to pull his head out of his ass and make smarter throws. God damnit he needs to utilize Edwards. obviously Cotchery is out and he throws to Edwards what, like 3 times? WTF! Yes hes a rookie but god damn 5 picks against Buffalo? I’m starting to give up on Snatchez
by FlyNYJ on Oct 19, 2009 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m sorry but I don’t see the arm strength in this guy, 2 of the picks he threw just didn’t have the zip to make it there before the DB. Most rookie interceptions are thrown because of poor decision making and as a rookie it is expected but some of his picks aren’t bad decisions but what I would call a lack of arm strength, remember these guys are pros and they are all fast, not just some of them like in the college ranks and it’s the lack of arm strength that concerns me. The guy is very accurate and he’ll be ok once he learns to read NFL defenses but he nothing more than a mobile Chad Pennington which isn’t bad if we have a good ground game and a hard nosed defense but in no way shape or form is he a Brady, Manning. Brees, or Roethlisburger so don’t expect that kind of passing game from him.
by smalljaw on Oct 19, 2009 1:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Are You Nuts?
The Winds At The Meadowlands Are Hard For Any QB To Throw Into. He Is Still A Kid, Give Him Time. This Was Suppose To Be A Rebuilding Year, Everybody Is Acting Like This Was A SB Contender After Three Weeks. Look At The Ravens, They Were 3-0 Too, Now They Are 3-3 Too. I Still Understand Not Putting A Retractable Roof On The New Stadium.
by YankeesJets on Oct 19, 2009 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you were paying attention to the game..
you would have heard them saying there were 20mph wind gusts and he admitted he’d never played in that type of whether.
by FlyNYJ on Oct 19, 2009 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seriously?
i only saw the 4th qtr and ot AND i heard them mention the wind gust on each of the last three field goals. any fan of the Jets or Giants knows that on the best sunny day there are still wind issues on deep throws in the Meadowlands. the real question is why is an experienced offensive coordinator making those calls with a rookie qb, whose having a bad day, when you have a running attack posting record numbers. oh yeah the same one that would allow a veteran qb with a busted arm throw 40 times in the snow against a defense that gave up 400+ yards the week before when you have the leading rusher in the AFC! ROTTENHEIMER MUST GO!!
by george JETson on Oct 20, 2009 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sanchez is our guy
I’m still happier with him behind center instead of Clemens. Did anyone really expect a smooth season from a rookie QB?
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by Grady90 on Oct 19, 2009 1:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The Jets Hype Machine Trumps Sound Football Decisions
I like many things about Sanchez. I think he has good leadership skills and, at least before this Sunday, has demonstrated somewhat of an ability to bounce back from mistakes and come back and make good plays.
That said, I blame Woody, front office people and Ryan for letting the hype surrounding Sanchez override sound football decisions. Personally, I think Sanchez was drafted too high. Given his relatively short experience as a starter at USC, his almost complete lack of experience in demonstrating an ability to play in adverse weather and the fact that his arm strength and size are average, I think Sanchez should have been drafted either at the end of the first round or even in the second round. There are enough questions about his ability to be a true impact QB in the NFL that I think it was foolish to trade up and choose him with the 5th pick in the first round.
Compounding the problem is that, once they made this decision, it seems as if Woody set everything in motion to totally hype Sanchez. Whether or not there was a true competition for the starting slot in pre-season, I don’t know. Clearly Clemens didn’t step up and make a clear cut case that he should start. Notwithstanding, yesterday illustrates the fact that Sanchez is not only fully a rookie capable of making lots of rookie mistakes, but also that some of his potential weaknesses (arm strength, size) are still there and can’t just be glossed over. Sanchez’s college career was spent playing in good weather against mostly weak defenses in the Pac-10. He’s now playing against division rivals who are mostly in the northeast, at least half of the season is usually played in bad weather and his home field usually has strong and tricky winds with which to contend.
My main concern is not that Sanchez is making rookie mistakes. We expected this once he was named to be the starting QB. In my opinion, the larger concern is whether Sanchez has the physical tools to execute in the way an NFL QB needs to under adverse weather conditions.
Ryan had said last week that Sunday’s game against the Bills was a “must win.” If so, when Sanchez was so clearly having problems with the wind and other issues yesterday, my feeling is that Ryan didn’t sit him and bring in Clemens (who has had experience throwing into Meadowlands winds in game situations) because Woody has so imposed a “promote Sanchez” mentality that the people responsible for football decisions (Ryan, Schottenheimer, Tannenbaum) will not dare ask the question: Can we rely on Sanchez no matter what when a game situation might dictate otherwise.
As I stated earlier, Clemens didn’t step up and win the starting job. I actually didn’t have a major problem with Sanchez getting the starting nod at the beginning of the season. But ……. 1) he is a rookie, and 2) it is very problematic if they are going to completely overlook Sanchez’s weaknesses. He is in no way a QB with a complete set of overwhelmingly strengths. I think he has potential and has a legitimate possibility of becoming a very good starting QB in the NFL. It is, though, not a certainty and the Jets risk having some sub-par seasons if they are not realistic about Sanchez -- his strengths and his weaknesses.
by Jeff I on Oct 19, 2009 2:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sanchez Wasnt Drafted Too High
Some experts say the Lions shouldve taken him number 1. People need to step back a bit and realize all rookie QB’s start off struggling a bit. Elway and Aikman were not so good when they first started, neither was either Manning. I think the Jets mistake was not getting a veteran to start the season, maybe Garcia, and then if the team struggled, fans would be screaming for the rookie to start, instead of screaming to get him out of there.
by YankeesJets on Oct 19, 2009 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The difference being...
…the team that destroyed Joe Flacco in week six last season were the Indianapolis Colts, who are a perennial contender, finished the season with a 12-4 record and whose starting quarterback was the league MVP. The team that destroyed Mark Sanchez yesterday was a team that hadn’t made the playoffs in a decade, was missing two starting defensive backs, finished the game with no starting defensive backs, had just lost to a previously winless team and whose starting quarterback was knocked out of the game early with a head injury.
The ’09 Bills are in no way shape or form anything even remotely resembling the ’08 Colts. To even insinuate otherwise is ludicrously insane.
"I could have conquered Europe, all of it, but I had women in my life." - King Henry II of England
by Calvert on Oct 19, 2009 2:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
And to add...
…the teams that Flacco lost to just before the game against Indy? One would finish the season with the league’s best record. The other would go on to win the Super Bowl.
"I could have conquered Europe, all of it, but I had women in my life." - King Henry II of England
by Calvert on Oct 19, 2009 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So I guess we should just cut Sanchez
Flacco also had a better team around him and also had more time under center in college. These same Jets with the Almight Favre lost to bad teams down the stretch, and he had the WRs he was used to working with. Sanchez needs more time.
by YankeesJets on Oct 19, 2009 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Flacco, during his three game losing streak last year, also performed significantly better against better quality opposition than what Sanchez has faced in his three game losing streak. Flacco faced three playoff teams in succession (Tennessee, Pittsburgh and Indianapolis) whereas Sanchez only faced one playoff-caliber team (New Orleans) and two teams in utter collapse (Miami and Buffalo), one of which had already lost over half their defensive starters. Flacco also had more time under center in college because he chose to play at a lower level of competition (largely because he couldn’t crack the starting lineup at Pitt) and therefore could get in the lineup earlier whereas Sanchez went to a premier football school with better quality teammates but had other people ahead of him. Sanchez could have done what Flacco did…transfered to (for example) Cal-Davis or Stephen F. Austin, but he chose otherwise.
If Sanchez had had a game like this against the Giants or Steelers, I think it could be forgiven. Against the Bills and the problems they have been having with massive injuries, inept coaching and lackluster play? No.
"I could have conquered Europe, all of it, but I had women in my life." - King Henry II of England
by Calvert on Oct 19, 2009 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So The Pats And Texans Arent Playoff Caliber Teams?
Not for nothing, that Bills defense isnt as bad as you would like to think. They lost to the Browns but held their QB to 2 completions, they had Brady and the Pats beat, and they lost to the defending AFC East champs. The other reason Sanchez didnt get as much time under center is because he entered the draft early.
by YankeesJets on Oct 19, 2009 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They're not as bad as we think?
Only once in their fifty-year history did the Bills give up more rushing yardage than they did on Sunday afternoon. They gave up two yards more, to be exact. Sunday was one of the most pathetic efforts by a Bills defense in a half-century. Even average defenses simply do not give up 318 yards rushing to anyone.
The Jets did not need Sanchez to be a great quarterback on Sunday. Jones and Washington were killing the Bills just fine. They didn’t need him to be a good quarterback. They didn’t even need him to be a mediocre quarterback. They only thing offensively that would have prevented a New York victory on Sunday was a Jets QB putting in one of the worst performances in team history against a defense that was so bad and so depleted by injuries they were starting a guy who was on the Packers’ practice squad a couple of days earlier because they had run out of players.
And one of the worst performances in club history is exactly what Sanchez gave them.
"I could have conquered Europe, all of it, but I had women in my life." - King Henry II of England
by Calvert on Oct 20, 2009 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Their run defense is garbage but their secondary has been doing the job
Bad teams win games sometimes too. How about the Raiders beating the Eagles, or last years Giants losing to the Browns? There is a reason all the experts picked the Jets to finish last in the division, because they are starting a rookie QB. Flacco And Ryan are the exception when it comes to rookie QBs.
by YankeesJets on Oct 20, 2009 1:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They will finish last.
This team is horrible against the run and does not have a screen pass in their playbook. Or at least did not use it vs Buffalo. Sanchez needs some high % passes to boost his confidence. Pulling him would have been better than having him throw up floating ducks into the wind. (did not work too well)
by Jay Mar on Oct 20, 2009 7:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
…the team that destroyed Joe Flacco in week six last season were the Indianapolis Colts, who are a perennial contender, finished the season with a 12-4 record and whose starting quarterback was the league MVP. The team that destroyed Mark Sanchez yesterday was a team that hadn’t made the playoffs in a decade, was missing two starting defensive backs, finished the game with no starting defensive backs, had just lost to a previously winless team and whose starting quarterback was knocked out of the game early with a head injury.
Flacco wasn’t playing against Peyton Manning. He was playing against the Colts’ pass defense. The Bills stink, but it’s not because of their pass defense. They give up the fourth fewest yards in the air in the NFL. When they lost to that winless team, the other quarterback went 2 for 17. How bad the Bills’ quarterback and offensive line have been are irrelevant. Sanchez wasn’t matched up with them.
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by John B on Oct 19, 2009 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, he was...
In the Baltimore game against the Colts last year, Manning had Indy out to a very early lead, putting up 17 points in the first quarter, making the Ravens try to play catchup and forcing Flacco to attempt plays of which he was not yet capable. That wasn’t the case yesterday in the least. The Bills offense was anemic, Edwards had already been knocked out and the Jets running game was working exceptionally well. In the Colts-Ravens game, the Ravens never had any control at any time. In the Bills-Jets game, the Jets had control virtually the entire game until Sanchez handed it to the Bills on a silver platter.
The two comparisons are not in any way similar. Flacco lost three consecutive games against highly-skilled playoff-caliber teams before the Ravens turned their season around against poorer quality opposition. Sanchez lost yesterday to the reserves of one of the worst teams in the league when his running game was working exceptionally well (it was the second most running yards given up by the Bills in their fifty-year history) and his team had the lead through the majority of the game.
Getting your brains beat in by good teams is frustrating but forgivable and correctable. Getting your brains beat in by the reserves of a bad team is neither.
"I could have conquered Europe, all of it, but I had women in my life." - King Henry II of England
by Calvert on Oct 19, 2009 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you keep mentioning that Sanchez made his mistakes with a running game that was working. While there is no doubt he has to take the blame for those picks, the real question is…Why was ROTTENHEIMER calling deep passes when the running attack was killing the Bills. You have the lead, they can’t stop the run what do you do? Run, then you run some more. You don’t air it out with a qb whose 3 picks already.
by george JETson on Oct 20, 2009 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm sure that Sanchez will get better
He seems to be resilient and it seems like the team’s got his back, so he’ll be fine eventually. The thing is, this team isn’t last year’s Ravens, as much as Rex Ryan wishes them to be.
by Exystence on Oct 19, 2009 2:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
im not even close to giving up on sanchez. in the beginning of the year we all knew he wasnt going to have a steve young performance every week. these awful performances are inevitable for a rookie. maybe he isnt used to these weather conditions but theyre only going to get worse from here. its going to get colder and windier as the year goes on. i know hes going to make his adjustments and gain back the support he had after week 3.
by joey d on Oct 19, 2009 3:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Jeff I is spot on!! It’s not about making compaisons to other rookie QBs because every team is in a different situation but the jets traded up for a franchise type QB and I’m not saying that Sanchez isn’t going to be that guy but when you go after a player to fill that kind of role you have to be very careful look at all aspects of the player you are considering. Bill Parcells said in order for him to draft a QB as a number 1 pick he has to meet certain criteria like having at least 3 seasons as a starter in college, with at least 23 wins and he also would have liked to see at least one game were the QB lead a game winning drive, that being said I think the jets’ scouting dept. didn’t give alot of consideration in any other area other than Sanchez was a winning QB at USC. Like I said, I want him to succeed but I just hope nobody expects 300+yd 4 TD games with this guy because I don’t think his arm strength and overall ability is going to provide that, if he succeeds he’ll be a great game manager that doesn’t turn the ball over and doesn’t take sacks and uses his backs and tightends in a short passing game that’ll be second to the run game and a strong defense.
by smalljaw on Oct 19, 2009 3:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
smalljaw
Agree with your comments as well. This isn’t about giving up on Sanchez at all. As I mentioned in my original post, there is a lot to like about Sanchez. My problem is that the hype machine seems to be hitting on all cylinders and thus seems to pose an obstacle to making some realistic football decisions as to what is best for the team and, I would argue, what is even best for Sanchez in his development.
I’m not saying with certainty that benching Sanchez yesterday when he was performing miserably and bringing in Clemens would have produced a win. But ….. I think in re: yesterday’s game situation, bringing in Clemens would have given the Jets the best opportunity to salvage a win. Even if Clemens did come in and they won, Ryan could still start Sanchez next week to keep his confidence in check, etc. Bottom line -- the Sanchez hype is adversely affecting hard decisions that should be made for the success of the Jets this season. ( of course, I also argued that last year Mangini’s hands were a bit tied in re: to benching Favre when Favre’s performance clearly was detrimental to the team the last 5-6 games.)
by Jeff I on Oct 19, 2009 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
bringing in clemens
would not have been good for sanchez’s confidence.
running the ball endlessly until the bills prove they can stop it would have been a better solution.
for all the talk about supporting a rookie qb by being a run first team, they haven’t really proven that they can just keep pounding the ball at will.
schotty would call run, run and pass on third down, even with only 3 or 4 yards to gain.
for a change i really wanted to see once, just once, run, run and run again on 3rd down.
the funny thing is on 3rd and longs, schotty likes to take a chance and either run or dump it to leon and hopes he breaks one.
but on 3rd and short, for a supposedly run-first team, we don’t run it?
all the talk during the draft and preseason was that all they needed sanchez to do was rely on one of the best lines in the league and hand off to 2 probowl rushers.
on the day where the running game finally got going, they put it in the air in crucial situations.
to be fair with schotty, though, i don’t know how many of those plays sanchez may have changed.
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by dvdvil on Oct 20, 2009 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I posted this comment in another thread about switching QBs, but i will re-post it here where there is a more intelligent discussion:
Give him a break. Sanchez is really a solid QB, and the worst thing you could do to him is shake his confidence further by benching him. He is going to have to play through it. i know it is painful to go through it as a fan, but you have to expect that when you start a rookie right out of the draft.
If Rex is smart (and this one is up for grabs), he will scale back the offense a bit, and get Sanchez back in the game with some easy completions – TEs, RB screens, underneath slants, high percentage stuff to get his confidence back, and then use that massive O-line you have to pound the rock. all you guys had to do to win yesterday was have Sanchez throw LESS, not more.
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Oct 19, 2009 5:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
confidence?
How good is 5-6 int. for his confidence?
by Jay Mar on Oct 20, 2009 7:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
but there is really not anything to be done about that at this point, right? it's done.
the only question is, “where do you go from here?”. Do you think it is better for his development to pull him?
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Oct 20, 2009 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I generally agree with your comments. The problem is ….. there has been so much hype surrounding Sanchez ( and, no doubt, fueled by Woody) that ….. their confidence in Sanchez is not grounded in the reality of what he can offer at this point in his career. I blame this more on Woody than anyone else.
The Jets had a lot of positives coming into this season and a lot to build on. Now …. Jenkins is out for the season and we’ve put a good QB prospect in a position that we are asking way to much of him because cheapskate Woody is all about short-term marketing rather than building a sustainable, winning franchise. I apologize for being cynical but ……. the Jets desperately need some sound football decisions rather than superficial marketing fluff. The blame lies with Woody.
by Jeff I on Oct 19, 2009 7:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Why do morons like you exist?
you are officially the dumbest person on this post. Go post on your own little board you shmuck. retards these days….
by FlyNYJ on Oct 19, 2009 8:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nice...
SHOTTY better get some crap for calling those passes into the wind. I am not sure he was in the same stadium????
by Jay Mar on Oct 20, 2009 7:47 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
8-8 at best
This team may finish at .500. Be happy with that for a rebuilding year.
by Jay Mar on Oct 20, 2009 7:59 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
CHAD HENNE IS BETTER
am not disrespcting anyone but i honestly believe that chad is better right here right now in 2009…………..and if u could take back that trade to get up to the 5th spot to take mark sanchez would you……i would if i were u people i would of taken darrius heyward bey with the 17th pick or percy harvin….cause braylon just shoewd up on monday night but now he’s back to normal……hey wanna trade ginn for braylon…….NOT!!!
AFC EAST CHAMPS 2008
by thatcoolguy on Oct 20, 2009 8:13 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Double talk
The Jets said the right things in pre-season and early on. THEY SAID they were going to run, take the pressure off their rookie qb. THEY SAID they wouldn’t ask to win the games.THEY SAID they would keep it simple. What Shotty did is the opposite. He keeps trying to get cute and passing on 3- short. How many more times do we have to see a 15 yrd pass attempt on 3-1. Who comes out gunning in the second half when you are in the lead, in the Meadowlands and possess 200+ yards rushing?!
Also, try to remember that Eli had a similar outing in the Meadowlands his rookie year and he turned out pretty good.
by george JETson on Oct 20, 2009 11:40 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sanchez
I’d still take Sanchez over lot of other starters right now. Remember folks the season is a marathon not a sprint. Sanchez is going through OJT, on the job training.
Jenkins is a tough loss.
Now you’ll excuse me while I mourn the Giants first loss of the season….
by John W on Oct 20, 2009 6:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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