Rock Bottom
by John B on Oct 18, 2009 8:11 PM EDT
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For the second straight week, the vaunted defense couldn't get a stop when it needed one against a 1 win divisional opponent. Last week was a road game against a talented opponent with a unique style. This was a home game against a team in disarray with a horrible backup quarterback.
And obviously the rookie quarterback looked like a rookie. Unfortunately we saw more Mark Sanchez growing pains. It helped cost the team a game. It happens to every team with a rookie quarterback.
I think it's pretty safe to say this is the low point of the young season.
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Wow.
Just wow. I don’t even know what to say. Awful just doesn’t seem strong enough. This could be a tough one to recover from.
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by nrmax88 on Oct 18, 2009 8:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This game was so bad, I dont even know how I got through the rest of it!!!!! Run the darn ball!!! Where was Jones? Where was Greene? Washington was ok but he cant hit the middle like they can, I really cant say anymore I cant wait for the Bye so we can get are sugar honey ice tea together!!!!!
by bllackkman on Oct 18, 2009 8:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sanchez will be benched by the end of the season
by FishNFinz on Oct 18, 2009 8:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Don’t see that happening.
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by John B on Oct 18, 2009 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Quotes from our friends at the Phinsider
Calvin Pace- “This is the NFL. Dont come in here with that field goal nonsense”
Rex Ryan- “Our defense made thier quarterback look like Jim Kelly”
by FishNFinz on Oct 18, 2009 8:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
10 for 25? That’s Jim Kelly?
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by John B on Oct 18, 2009 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the phins wish
as i remember kelly owned them. tough loss for the jets, but thats why they play the game. sanchez will be ok, hes still super young and learning.
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by silverstreak3k on Oct 18, 2009 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not putting that down to being a rookie
you can get away with a lot as a rookie but 5 INT in a game, and let’s not forget that two interceptions were dropped, Sanchez could of had upwards of 7 INT in this game. Just bad football.
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by David_Wyatt on Oct 18, 2009 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
put it down as however you want
players have bad games, and id bet that will be sanchez’s worst. with rookies come horrible games, but i still think you have a good qb in the making, and i wouldnt mind if he was a bill
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by silverstreak3k on Oct 18, 2009 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not saying
that he is not going to be a good QB. I’m saying that rookie or not a performance like that is unacceptable. I have faith in Sanchez, but I don’t think you can give him a pass for that performance based on his rookie status.
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by David_Wyatt on Oct 18, 2009 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I Still Wonder Why They Didnt Just Keep Pounding It
Sanchez didnt have it today but the running game was unstoppable, why go away from it? And why have Clowney on the team if you are not going to throw to him? Dont even get me started on Keller either, another Jets TE First Round Bust.
by YankeesJets on Oct 18, 2009 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No idea what has happened
to Keller, he doesn’t even look interested this year, seems he has a strop on him because things are not going well. When I write up the thoughts later he is going to be one of the main issues. If he struggles catching the ball he can’t be in there because he can’t block
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by David_Wyatt on Oct 18, 2009 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now I See Why Sanchez Hasnt Been Throwing To Him
I think Dustin is the one who needs to apologize this week. And Pace is making me long for more Gholston less Pace.
by YankeesJets on Oct 18, 2009 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
With rookies come horrible games? Tell that to Joe Flacco and Matt Ryan.
by NJBillsfan on Oct 18, 2009 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Its A Little Different
Sanchez has way less time in than they did. He only started 16 games in school. In fairness the quick start was bad for him because now everyone is thinking a guy with limited experience is gonna beat out Tom Brady and the Pats and go far in the playoffs.
by YankeesJets on Oct 18, 2009 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not too many got caught up
in it though. Nobody was calling him a all star or a pro bowler, we just thought we had a guy who every now and then could move the ball. The one thing that was said before the season was, he knew that it was his job not to turn the ball over. He doesn’t have to go out and win the games, that’s why this is far worse than a horrible game.
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by David_Wyatt on Oct 18, 2009 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just wonder if it was his reads or..
if Schotty was just calling plays to Edwards. I know he threw to Keller, which was a waste but he didnt throw to any other WRs. I wish we could sign some of those Bills DB’s to play WR. Sanchez would like Tom Brady if he was throwing to those guys.
by YankeesJets on Oct 18, 2009 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
joe flacco
game 6 last year, 3 ints no tds, managed to lead his team to 3 points against an iffy indy defense.
matt ryan game 3 last year. a great 39% completion percentage, 2 ints, no tds, and managed 9 points in the loss to the bucs.
EVERY ROOKIE HAS BAD GAMES!
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by silverstreak3k on Oct 18, 2009 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Those are bad games
this is something else. Combine those bad games by those two rookies and you get Sanchez today. Bad is not the word to describe it.
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by David_Wyatt on Oct 18, 2009 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh no
i know. sanchez had a career terrible game. but my point is, rookies will have bad games, and for people to think ryan and flacco were somehow exempt from that is baffling.
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by silverstreak3k on Oct 18, 2009 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
By no means was I saying rookies don’t have bad games or the above two are exempt, but just because you are a rook doesn’t mean you are allowed throw 5 interceptions against a defense that isn’t exactly league leading caliber.
by NJBillsfan on Oct 19, 2009 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Those Were To Good Teams
This was to a Bills team that had the nails ready to be driven into the coffin, and were handing Sanchez the hammer.
by YankeesJets on Oct 18, 2009 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
this bills team
is depleted by injuries and plagued by poor coaching. the talent on the field is up there with alot of teams.
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by silverstreak3k on Oct 18, 2009 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thats the point, its a depleted team and...
It looked like it was ready to call it a season after losing at home to Eric Mangini’s Cleveland Jets. Im not giving up on Sanchez, but I am starting to give up on Schotty.
by YankeesJets on Oct 18, 2009 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL LOL
Henne is now our leader. Lets see what the guy can do !
As usual the R&R Xpres is non stop to its next destination !
Driver of the Camarillo, Hartline & Bess fan club bus.. hop on and enjoy the ride!
We need this pass D to STEP THE F UP and do what they get paid to do!
CP10 you will be missed. Long live noodle arm ! Seriously, a great leader and I hope we see Coach CP10
by MainePhinFan on Oct 18, 2009 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Same Old Jets
I don’t understand why any of us are surprised, we have been building expectation and not delivering for 40 years, there is nothing new about this. It’s the life of a Jets fan, you just have to accept it.
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by David_Wyatt on Oct 18, 2009 8:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
this is the lowest i have felt since
Luis Castillo dropped the pop up
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by Jadden Hopkins on Oct 18, 2009 8:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This is the lowest I have felt since
Seattle last year or the entire 2007 season
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by David_Wyatt on Oct 18, 2009 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
bet*
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by John B on Oct 18, 2009 8:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Another Loss In A Non 1PM Game
11-0 in 1 PM games, 1-10 in Non 1PM Games the last two seasons. To make it worse the Raiders had to finally find a heartbeat today too. I think this is gonna be a long season and the Jets are gonna wind up an 8-8 or 9-7 team. I still wonder how we beat Brady and Schaub, but lose to Henne and Fitzpatrick.
by YankeesJets on Oct 18, 2009 8:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
8-8 and 9-7 is confident
I think we go 7-9 with everyone back, but if Jenkins and Woody are serious, this is a 6-10 team.
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by David_Wyatt on Oct 18, 2009 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It Seems Like They Play Down To Their Opponent
Last Year Too. They get up for the good teams and they fail against the bad ones. How does Eric Mangini and a terrible team of Jets castoffs beat the Bills in Buffalo, while we cant beat them at home with their second string QB?
by YankeesJets on Oct 18, 2009 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Probably why we haven't won a championship in a long time
we can’t win games we are supposed to win
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by David_Wyatt on Oct 18, 2009 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Interesting stat. Strange how that works.
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by John B on Oct 18, 2009 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Got to say
not looking forward to writing this one up
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by David_Wyatt on Oct 18, 2009 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We Went From Looking At Easy Wins, To Becoming An Easy Win
Next week, JaMarcus Russell is gonna look like Peyton Manning. They always make the bad QBs look good. And if that Raiders D could do that to McNabb, Sanchez is gonna get destroyed. I fear how bad they are gonna make us look.
by YankeesJets on Oct 18, 2009 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
we didn't "lose" to henne
he beat us, plain and simple. he picked us apart with some great throws. we have to get more pressure on him next time.
by hossanfeffer on Oct 19, 2009 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
oddly enough
when one compares this comment to comments made on the phinsider just 10 days later, one finds that the arrogance and stupidity has indeed returned! The raiders can do that…
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by phins23 on Oct 29, 2009 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kellen Clemens Must Really Stink
If He Cant Even Get Into A Game After Sanchez Played That Bad.
by YankeesJets on Oct 18, 2009 8:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
SIGH!!!!!
we always have the off season were next year will be an uncapped year hopefully woody breaks the bank if not I’m done
by JETSFAN IN SC on Oct 18, 2009 8:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Even Bart Scott Looks Deflated On Jets Post Game
The defense didnt play bad, they kept us in the game. I think they have to scale the playbook back a little bit for Sanchez and just keep pounding the rock.
by YankeesJets on Oct 18, 2009 9:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What a shitastic game.
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There are times in my life wheere I have self-doubt, but when this happens, I simply ask myself: What would Don Draper do? So I bone a random whore.
by Patssuck456 on Oct 18, 2009 9:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
How Do The Jets Beat The Pats
And then lose to two teams with their back up QBs? This is very frustrating.
by YankeesJets on Oct 18, 2009 9:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Kris Jenkins season may be over
Rod Boone is reporting that it MAY be over, important word May.
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by David_Wyatt on Oct 18, 2009 9:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
My day just keeps getting better
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by Jadden Hopkins on Oct 18, 2009 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If This Is True
The Season Really Is Over
by YankeesJets on Oct 18, 2009 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
As a Dolphin Fan....
I’m obviously happy that you helped us a little in the AFC today…
however, as a realistic question I ask this:
What role, if any, do you think the weather played in Sanchez’s play? He’s a Warm Weather QB, and this is his first real Cold Weather game….and there wasn’t even snow.
Do you think you could be in for a rough winter stretch, hoping he adjusts?
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by Fr8Train on Oct 18, 2009 9:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I dont care if it's 90 degrees out there
If you key in on the same WR all game, and your “All Star” TE keeps dropping everything thrown his way, you are going to have the same result. If he is gonna be an NFL QB, he is going to have to play in the cold, so that excuse better get tossed quickly.
by YankeesJets on Oct 18, 2009 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If we never take another tight end in the first round, it will be too soon.
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by John B on Oct 18, 2009 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just asking....
Leader of the - Settle down Junior!, Henne is the Starter Movement
"We've moved. We're Here....Get Over it"
If Pat White played Tyler Thigpen for the starting QB position for the Miami Dolphins, who would win?
Answer - A 2010 Draft Pick
by Fr8Train on Oct 18, 2009 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sure you can understand
that Jets fans are a little touchy right now. We are witnessing another collapse of a promising season.
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by David_Wyatt on Oct 18, 2009 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh I definitely understand.
The though occurred to me while watching the game, and who else is better to ask than the NY faithful.
As someone who played sports in Florida growing up, and then living in Canada for a few years….I can tell you for sure I was paralyzed by the winters for a few years. Granted, they are all a million times the athlete I ever was, but they still get cold too :)
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by Fr8Train on Oct 18, 2009 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's worrying
however if you look at the start of some of the best’s careers they were not pretty, just look at Peyton’s rookie season. Everything was bad today, play calling, execution, QB play, and everything really.
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by David_Wyatt on Oct 18, 2009 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sanchez Will Be Okay
I think winning the first three games might have hurt him a bit. Normally people dont look to a rookie QB to take them to the playoffs the first season, but with the three wins over quality opponents, Sanchez has to deal with win now pressure. And the Edwards move makes it look like the team is going all in this year, even though this kid isnt ready for that kind of pressure.
by YankeesJets on Oct 18, 2009 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Especially
when Schotty puts unneeded pressure on him. No need to throw so much in the 2nd half with the running game working. He is such a strange coordinator, when the pass is working, he elects to try and pound the ball and get the run game going. When the run game is working, he in insistent on throwing the football. Not getting a HC job with those kind of calls.
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by David_Wyatt on Oct 18, 2009 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A part
but can’t be used as an excuse. His mistakes were in his reads, and although the weather will of played a part I don’t think we can pin it all on that. I just think it was one of those days, he tried to force the ball to Edwards too much. I think it will be a very long winter, even longer if Jenkins is out.
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by David_Wyatt on Oct 18, 2009 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I Agree That It Was Just One Of Those Days
I had a bad feeling about this game, and next weeks too. The Jets never win the games they are suppose too. I think Sanchez will be a good QB in the future, he just has a lot to learn.
by YankeesJets on Oct 18, 2009 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Keller's performance didn't help
He just didn’t look interested, Sanchez had him for a 3 first downs, balls that were not perfect but should of been caught. Keller just was not up to the task
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by David_Wyatt on Oct 18, 2009 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
To Think ..
I thought Keller was going to be another Gonzalez or Gates. Keller should be valet parking not playing on the field. What a bum.
by YankeesJets on Oct 18, 2009 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I really thought this was his year
Obviously wrong about that, hustled his tail off as a rookie last year, maybe he is just too comfortable now, feels like he is set.
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by David_Wyatt on Oct 18, 2009 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He definitely fits this team
I am also starting to wonder if the Jets made a mistake in signing Scott over Ray Lewis. Not saying Bart is bad, but I think Ray is more of a leader who would make the guys more accountable.
by YankeesJets on Oct 18, 2009 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like the Scott signing
Scott has played well this year apart from last season and think he holds players accountable nearly as much as Lewis. Plus a lot younger.
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by David_Wyatt on Oct 18, 2009 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
As a Bills fan I can sympathize..
Usually it is the Bills who figure out a way to snatch defeat from the jaws of certain victory. I think the Jets got too overconfident. One website had a Jet saying he felt sorry for the Bills, because the Jets needed someone to beat on after the Miami loss. He’s the guy the trainers on working on…extracting his foot from his mouth.
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by TatonkaDonk on Oct 18, 2009 9:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Good One
But I didnt think the Jets talked any trash about the Bills. If anything you should be thanking the Jets for knocking Edwards out. Fitzpatrick shows more promise.
by YankeesJets on Oct 18, 2009 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought I read it somewhere...or heard it on the radio
Maybe it was Peter King in his weekly picks. Either way it was a fun game to watch..compared to the Bills/Browns. The Jets/Miami was exciting too. At least your coach shows some emotion, we have the Crypt Keeper.
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by TatonkaDonk on Oct 18, 2009 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Post game comments
Ryan:
Give a lot of credit
Not turning the ball over 6 times and winning
Thought about pulling Sanchez
Still believes in him
Still thought Sanchez gave us the best chance to win down the stretch
Character of the football team will show (Said that last week)
Thinks we will bounce back (again said that three weeks in a row)
Sanchez:
Embarrassing day
I gave that team the win
Poor day accuracy wise
Let the team down
No excuses
Couldn’t play any worse
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by David_Wyatt on Oct 18, 2009 10:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
So are you guys going for Bradford or Tebow next year?
by FishNFinz on Oct 18, 2009 11:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sorry We Arent The Fins
You guys draft a QB every year
by YankeesJets on Oct 19, 2009 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i believe weve only drafted john beck, chad henne, and pat white since 99
beck was a mistake from the cam cameron debacle, and you know the story from the other “clowns”
by FishNFinz on Oct 19, 2009 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i take that back. in 98 we used a late 6th round pick on a backup QB then again a late 6th rounder in 2001
so besides those 3, we havent drafted a QB to be a starter since 83
by FishNFinz on Oct 19, 2009 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Fins Have Drafted A QB Every Year Since 2007
Thats not good. And I wouldnt anoint Henne just yet. The last two years the Jets have made very ordinary QBs look good. Guys like Fitzpatrick, Cassell, Russell, Hill, and Wallace. Henne looked good, but if you think he wont have bad games like Sanchez has, you are in denial.
by YankeesJets on Oct 19, 2009 2:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
sanchez doesnt scan the field
He locks on one receiver and that makes it easy for the db’s. That is mainly why he is being intercepted so often. I believe his accuracy makes it hard for all the receivers to catch the ball. Not too many on target, also a TE that gets a pass in the flat and is left out there to be slammed often will drop the ball, if not he loses 2 yards.
No suprises in the offense anymore. D’s know where we are going with the ball now. Our d looks good overall, not the rush but the rush defense. Pretty decent tackling also. IF that goes down we are buried.
by SteveK on Oct 19, 2009 7:17 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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