Jets Aim at Favre
Two Jets took direct swipes at Brett Favre over the holiday.
The first was from a guy who did not even have the guts to put his name to a quote.
"There was a lot of resentment in the room about him," a Jets player told Newsday yesterday. He requested anonymity because team owner Woody Johnson has stated publicly that Favre is welcome to return next season if he wants to.
"He never socialized with us, never went to dinner with anyone," the player said. Asked to describe Favre in a word, he said: "Distant."
According to the player - and he was backed by very supportive comments about Mangini from other Jets - very few in the room thought Mangini deserved to be fired, and that the acquisition of Favre and his subsequent "me-first" attitude hurt the Jets more than anything.
"Eric," he said, "wasn't the reason we didn't make the playoffs."
There is a lot to digest here. It is sheer cowardice to rip a teammate so vocally and not even put one's name to the comment. Dirty laundry like this should also never leave the locker room. This kind of thing should be handled in house. Favre was terrible down the stretch, but he did not make the bad in-game decisions and come up with lousy gameplans the last five weeks. Eric Mangini did. Blame for the collapse is not an "either/or" proposition regarding Mangini and Favre. Both stunk. To say the head coach bears no responsibility for such an epic fall is absurd. Also, who cares whether a guy goes out to dinner?
This guy even contradicts himself.
"If [Favre] was hurt by that stuff, I'd be shocked, because Eric barely said anything to him," the player said. "Guys would be getting called out for missed assignments or blown coverages, and Brett would have three picks and no one would say a word."
The quarterback keeps making killer mistakes, and the head coach expresses no dissatisfaction. This is good coaching? This is a guy not responsible at all for the team's bad play?
Thomas Jones also expressed frustration with his quarterback on a local radio station.
"We're a team and we win together ... but at the same time, you can't turn the ball over and expect to win," Jones said in a videotaped studio interview. "The other day, the three interceptions really hurt us. I mean, that's just reality. If I were to sit here and say, 'Oh, man, it's okay,' that's not reality.
"The reality is, you throw interceptions, I'm (ticked) off, I don't like it. You know what I'm saying? I don't like it, I know everybody else on the team doesn't like it."
At that point, the show's host, Angie Martinez, asked the AFC's leading rusher if teammates start to look "funny style" at a player that makes that many mistakes.
"If somebody is not playing well, they need to come out of the game," Jones replied. "You're jeopardizing the whole team because you're having a bad day. To me, that's not fair to everybody else. You're not the only one on the team."
"So it gets like that?" Martinez interjected.
"It definitely gets like that," Jones said. "You're playing to win, you're playing for the Super Bowl. That's what you do all this work for ... So when you get to the wire and somebody is just giving the game up, I mean, it's just not (fair)."
Unlike his unnamed teammate, a lot of what Jones says is substantively accurate. However, this again is poor judgment. If he truly believes it is a team, Jones should realize that they win and lose together and not single others out, especially when speaking of a game in which he ran for 23 yards. Mangini is also not pulling a first ballot Hall of Famer from a critical game to put in an unproven commodity like Kellen Clemens for his first significant action all season.
There is an evident leadership vacuum on this team. The leaders on a football team are supposed to be the coach and the quarterback. Both did terrible jobs down the stretch. Now sniping and airing dirty laundry in public is becoming accepted. Some of the reasons for the Jets' collapse are becoming evident.
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Well said John
I agree that there is a leadership vaccum with the Jets. I’m a Colts fan, but I’ve long been a Brett Favre fan as well. I still am. I also spend a lot of time in NYC, and I see a lot of Jets games. In the games I’ve seen, I noticed that Favre’s presence, and his ability to get the ball downfield, was a big reason why players like Thomas Jones are going to the Pro Bowl. Leon Washington and Duston Keller came alive this year, and a lot of that was due to Favre. I also know that without Favre the Jets would not have beaten the Titans, Patriots, Chiefs, or the Dolphins in Week One.
Seriously, the Favre bashing has gotten ridiculous, and it is now starting to smell like people like Jones and this other unnamed douchebag who likely plays for the defense are looking for a scape goat.
If you want to look at the real reason the Jets did not make the post-season, it was certainly not Brett Favre. It was the Jets wretched defense, which generated very little pressure on the QB. This opinion might not be the popular one, because now it is simply just popular to bash Favre because some people just don’t like him (the way people don’t like Peyton Manning for no reason what so ever). But the truth is the Jets defense caved down the stretch, forcing the offense (aka Favre) to play gunslinger.
Again, Thomas Jones, Coles, Washington, and much of the skill position players on offense were garbage in 2007 before Favre showed up. Now, some of these guys are blaming in your the team’s collective choke job?
Classy bunch. Whoever runs this team in 2009 should consider cutting Jones and getting rid of some of these players like like to point fingers.
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Nice post
This put the comments in the proper perspective. This is the reason I disagree with a lot of what is on ESPN. If you only listened to what they had to say, a person would think that every problem the Jets had was all Brett’s fault. As I said before, this post puts things into the proper perspective.
“Unlike his unnamed teammate, a lot of what Jones says is substantively accurate. However, this again is poor judgment. If he truly believes it is a team, Jones should realize that they win and lose together and not single others out, especially when speaking of a game in which he ran for 23 yards. Mangini is also not pulling a first ballot Hall of Famer from a critical game to put in an unproven commodity like Kellen Clemens for his first significant action all season.”
"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."
the scapegoat ?
If you want to look at the real reason the Jets did not make the post-season, it was certainly not Brett Favre. It was the Jets wretched defense
All the dropped passes by backs and recievers, and horrible pass blocking for the last 5 games, might also be a good part of the reason for the Jets colapsing.
Those two factors doesn’t exactly make the QB’s life easier.
The Jets were ok on pass blocking and catching for the first 11 games, but horrible in the last 5 games. They should look into getting a new wideout or two.
Also, a player who anonymously rips another team mate like that in the media, should be cut from the team.
Favre has sucked the past 5 years
And he is truly an asshole. He thinks he’s bigger than the team a huge prima dona. Jets fans thought they won the SB when they landed him, can you guys not see now what an over rated POS he is? He has such a huge head, I can’t stand him. I actually wished the Jets would lose this year because I hate Favre so much. I’m glad Thomas Jones and the anonymous guy finally said what everyone else was thinking.
E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!
Fav-ray sucks
Who do you guys want more, David Carr or Matt Cassell… I know it seems obvious to go get Cassell, but don’t forget Carr is a former No. 1 pick who’s never started for a decent team (and looked great on the Giants’ scrub team in the 2nd half against the Vikings.) Cassell has ahd several years to get the Patriots’ system down. Just trying to even up perception a little. Any other obvious candidates?
Faver is gonna use the MRI as an excuse to retire when the truth is he’s probably healthy but just shitty
You play to win the game!

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